Hopefully, Hillary do better in foreign policy than

[iquiring mind]

her husband's shameful presidency. Were these poor souls allowed to perish due to politics or racism? He goes into white Bosnia (better late than never) but, allows Africans to suffer genocide! A typically ineffective UN as well!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/13/sbm.dallaire.profile/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[amdezurik]

1. I think Hannity is on now or Billdo

so go gather some more of your breathless "info" to spread around here...

[iquiring mind]

5. Is that your only response?!?!?!?

Where's you humanity? This happened! Because it happened under Bill's watch you give it a pass? Where's your outrage?!?! Every time I read this stuff I get pissed!
For evil to exist, all it needs if for good people do not NOTHING!
If you're not pissed, you're either not paying attention or you've drank the kool-aide!

We should be outraged at what continues to happen in Africa under W. Take off your partisan blinders and get outraged when genocide is allowed to occur. If you were physically able, would you stand idly by and watch an elder lady be mugged? Or would you step up?

[amdezurik]

9. to someone doing KKKarl Rove's legwork?

screw that and screw you

[Autumn]

2. Are you sure your name isn't freeper mind? n/t

[wyldwolf]

3. There's an opening on Hannity and _________ for you.

[wyldwolf]

4. by the way, "iquiring" is spelled wrong in your name.

yeah yeah, I know "wyld" is spelled wrong in my name, but that was intentional.

[SoCalDem]

6. maybe he meant Acquiring mind

and just has *TLPS..


*Twitchy Left Pinkie Syndrome"

[iquiring mind]

7. Such an eye for the obvious

You should have been an English professor. Feel good to point out the typo of another?

[amdezurik]

10. if it is so obvious, how did you miss it?

[iquiring mind]

16. Is name calling all you got?

A typo is just that, a typo. Once you hit the <enter> button it's too late. You can't change you're username on DU.
I now use it to determine those who enjoy an intelligent discussion and those who simply rant and name call.

[Bucky]

18. Apparently he doesn't even have name calling since he didn't call you any names

I checked. That last post was two sentences, no insults.

But hang in there; someone might insult you yet.

[Starry Messenger]

8. .

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x547t4_classic-characters-woody-woodpecker_shortfilms

[ColbertWatcher]

11. Interesting.

You do realize the UN is not a separate country, but is made up of member nations, right?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Clinton and Albright actively undermined UN efforts to stop the genocide in Rwanda.

I certainly hope that Hillary doesn't follow in their bloodstained footsteps.

[wyldwolf]

14. really? How so?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. Here are 3 sources... plenty more.

Just google Clinton, Albright, Rwanda

http://www.democracynow.org/2000/7/11/the_rwanda_genocide_how_does_madeleine

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ghosts/themes/response.html

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/070800-01.htm

[rvablue]

13. Well, according to your own stated premise, it would be Obama's fault and not Hillary's

if more "poor souls were allowed to perish."

Not saying that I don't agree with you on one point....the western world miserably failed the Rwandan people....

But, the President decides what policies to advance and when military action might be used....not the SoS.....as you pointed out in the meat but NOT the title of your post.

[iquiring mind]

15. I'll agree with that... n/t

[Bucky]

17. Let me iquire about your position on this topic. You raise an itresting qestion.

May I iquire as to wether you think there might have been some other reason why Cinton was able to gather up a coalition against one of these atrocities and not the ohers? Could it be that Clinton was ony accomplishing what he could in the world given the horrible situations he faced? Nah, his racism totally eplains everything.

[iquiring mind]

22. I'll reply to both your comments

first,
amdezurik:
I think Hannity is on now or Billdo
Someone doing KKKarl Rove's legwork?.... screw that and screw you
autumn:
freeper mind
wyldwolf:
childishly pointing out a typo in my username. Quality debate there.
socaldem:
acquiring mind

All sophomoric will this substantive reply.

I don't truly think Clinton inaction was 'racist' I think it was purely political as was most of his decisions. As Al Gore would frustratingly beg, MAKE A DAMN DECISION!!!
I only used that as I've seen on the far left throw the race card into the mix. With no basis in fact. Yeah I know, poor debating technique but I went with it.

"Could it be that Clinton was only accomplishing what he could in the world given the horrible situations he faced?" This is a total cop-out on your part. Every President has to deal with the cards dealt him. This is no excuse for inaction.
He tried half-heartedly to go into Somalia and that blew up in his face. He didn't have the political will to truly address the issue in Africa. He went into Bosnia because he had the political cover of Europe backing him.

[walldude]

19. Dude, while I agree that Clinton screwed that up royally

you seem surprised that you are taking crap for your post. You come onto a left wing blog, after 8 years of the country being flushed down the toilet and you make a post about how horrible Clinton was? What did you expect? With your low post count that makes you look like a troll. Not to mention the knock at the UN. Where are your posts on Charging Bush with war crimes? How about your posts on the illegality of torture? Or on Telecom immunity? Where is your post on the 11 Billion dollars missing in Iraq? Where is your humanity when it comes, not to avoiding someone else,s genocide but putting a stop to the ones we are causing? You seem to have "humanity" for Africans but not Iraqi's. Or did you forget that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and they had no WMD's. Which means we killed, not ignored, hundreds of thousands of innocent people for nothing. So Bush can say the world is a better place because Saddam is dead.

[iquiring mind]

20. I'm not surprised that I'm taking crap

I am surprised (though, by now I shouldn't be) that there so many people that give somebody crap and don't write an intelligent reply, like yours. (sincerely)
When I read the CNN article I posted it immediately. Every time I read an article about how we turn a blind eye to these atrocities I get angry. I get more angry when I go on a site supposedly full of people "concerned for their fellow man" and those individuals ignore it because their party or their man was in office. I hope to open some minds that this should be protested no matter who is in power!
I care deeply for all, especially those slaughtered as we stood by. (the list this has happened to is too long to mention here and Presidents from both parties are to blame)

There were close to 1 million Iraq's who died as a result of the UN Oil for Food program. A majority of them children. (This number is from the UN's own human rights watchdog.) No mention is made of that. Why? Just because they weren't killed by bombs or gunfire?
Was the answer to end the sanctions and let Saddam remain in power? I supported removing Hussein and still do. He was a butcher. He violated every item on the cease fire that ended the 1st Gulf War, then thumbed his nose at the UN for 10 years. Every country thought he had WMD (hell, he even used it against his own people); France, England, Russia all agreed.

The US won the war (with 1% of the casualties predicted) but Bush, Rummy, et.al. lost the peace. If democracy can truly take place in Iraq, the region and the world will transformed for the better.

The UN has consistently disappointed. What have they done efficiently or effectively? They are ineffective in any military endeavor. All they can do is stand around and watch innocents being slaughtered. (as was illustrated in the article)
How many $billions$ were stolen and/or wasted during the Oil for Food program? The UN concept is great, the execution is poor.

How sad it is that if somebody comes on here for a true discussion and wishing to openly debate an issue they're labeled as a "Hannity" or a "Billdo" or a "troll", etc. Simply, for posting an article (from CNN not FoxNews) which shines an unfavorable light on what they worship. Worship and blind allegiance in either direction is a dangerous thing.

[Bluebear]

21. You're getting more crap from the "iquiring" than anything.

[iquiring mind]

23. amazing isn't it

and with all the intellect here

[walldude]

24. Well, just avoid hammering Obama or Clinton till your post

count goes up a bit. It's not really the fault of DU'ers either, we have been inundated with trolls since the primaries. It gets hard to seperate valid points of view from shit-stirring sometimes.

One thing I will disagree with you on is the fact that "everyone" thought Saddam had WMD's. Most countries didn't believe he did and Hans Blix the UN inspector said they didn't. He asked for a bit more time to confirm this but the Neo's weren't having it. The other thing to remember is we demanded Saddam leave the country or he would be attacked. 3 days before the invasion Saddam tried to "turn himself in" and Bush refused. This was was wanted by the Neo-Cons and nothing would have stopped it.

The oil for food program was a disaster and was not talked about because that was one of the reasons given by the terrorists for the attack on 9/11. Bush and his cronies were too worried about "capitulating" to terrorists to allow that kind of rhetoric. (The other reason for 9/11 was US troops in the holy land, which Bush happily capitulated to and removed US troops from Saudi Arabia)

The UN concept is great, the execution is poor. True. Problem is it's the US who has been hampering the effectiveness of the UN. Republicans hate the UN. In spite of all the crap we have pulled the world still looks to us for leadership, in order for the UN to work we need to be effectively leading it.