Fair Trade! It is what really works! Free trade suppress people.

[SammyWinstonJack]

[Truth2Tell]

1. The so-called free trade deals of the last decade

haven't even really been "trade" deals. They could more accurately be described as overseas corporate investment arrangements.

[SammyWinstonJack]

2. We need fair trade!

[Elwood P Dowd]

3. Your are correct.

These fake free trade deals are nothing more than corporate investment/outsourcing scams to enrich a few at the expense of workers and our environment. After all these years of current account deficits and millions of lost jobs, there are still DUers that believe the "pie in the sky" propaganda on free trade.

[SammyWinstonJack]

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[SammyWinstonJack]

5. 'Free trade", there is nothing 'free' about it! It outsources and restricts and suppresses wages.

[Elwood P Dowd]

6. Remember Marcy Kaptur and Byron Dorgan during the NAFTA debates?

Just about everything they predicted has come true. The promises made by the republicans (along with Bill Clinton & Al Gore) have failed to materialize. We were taken to the cleaners by a republican congress, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and a handful of corporate DLC-type democrats. BTW, Bill Richardson was part of that crowd.

[Dogmudgeon]

7. God damn Bill Clinton to hell for creating 22 million jobs!

That evil BASTARD!

--p!

[Elwood P Dowd]

9. Clinton didn't create those jobs.

He was the beneficiary of the high tech boom. He also signed George H. W. Bush's and Carla Hills' negotiated NAFTA and GATT agreements that started shipping jobs out of the country by the millions in the middle and late 1990s. Clinton also supported the repeal of Glass-Stegall, and we all know what that has given us. Clinton was a good republican in many ways. Just ask Greenspan.

[Dogmudgeon]

12. Wow. Bill Clinton was powerful enough to do all that evil stuff ...

... but he was NOT powerful enough to create jobs.

He could destroy the economy from the inside and leave the problem to poor old Dubya, but he had no hand in job creation.

That just doesn't make any sense.

And just look around. Obama is already being denounced as a fascist based on rumors.

The Progressive Circular Firing Squad is locked and loaded.

--p!
"Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we ever had!"
"It didn't start with Watergate!"
"Al Gore is just like George Bush!"
"Al Franken is the same as Norm Coleman!"

[Elwood P Dowd]

13. Clinton signed NAFTA, GATT, WTO, MFN, the Telecommunications Bill, and the repeal of

Glass-Stegall. That is a fact. Some of Clinton's tax, budget, and economic policies helped the economy for a few years in the 1990s, but those other deals I listed contributed to the economic problems we have today. The incompetent Dubya took over in 2001, and he made Clinton look like an economic genius in comparison. Clinton and Gore were wrong on those trade deals - why don't you just admit it?

[Selatius]

16. Yet, median pay for Americans did not grow as vigorously in the 1990s compared to previous decades.

A lot of jobs lost to out-sourcing were high-paying manufacturing jobs, many of which were union jobs. There is a very serious reason why the northeast corridor has been labeled the "Rust Belt" states. That is because many of them are dotted with empty factories now, the equipment shipped overseas because of very weak labor standards and lax environmental regulations. In many cases, the jobs that replaced them did not pay as well or offer as many benefits.

NAFTA wasn't the prime reason for the loss of all those jobs. Out-sourcing was a phenomenon that pre-dated that particular bill, but I would say it only accelerated the whole process.

[norepubsin08]

8. Our project: The MICAH Project in Tacoma, Washington

which runs out of First United Methodist Church has a Fair Trade Store, it is called, Ends of the Earth...we had a meeting with the Indonesian Trade Minister to try to talk about the difference between Fair Trade vs Free Trade, even with an interpreter he acted like he didn't know what we were talking about!

[uponit7771]

10. K&R

[leftstreet]

11. K&R

[HEyHEY]

14. can we get more than three sentences that make no sense when added up here?

[Omaha Steve]

15. We want FAIR trade

That works better for everybody.