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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:33 PM
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GM offers cuts in brands, salaries, debt, payroll
The General Motors of 2012 will have fewer brands and nameplates, thousands fewer dealers and employees, and much less debt on its balance sheet, under a restructuring plan GM gave Congress today.
GM will focus on its "core brands" of Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac, the plan says. GM will sell Saab, shrink Pontiac to a niche brand and consider selling or closing Saturn, GM President Fritz Henderson told reporters at a briefing today.

GM also plans to trim its U.S. dealerships from today's 6,450 to about 4,700, Henderson said. It will cut about one-third of the nameplates from its vehicle lineup.

GM executives say the plan will enable the company to be profitable even if the U.S. new-vehicle market makes only a modest recovery. GM's board of directors issued a statement saying it fully supports the plan.

But GM's plan is based on the assumption that GM's North American and U.S. market shares will remain consistent with where they are now. GM has a 23.4 percent market share in North America and a 24.3 percent market share in the United States. Many analysts have said the only way GM can become viable is not only by shrinking the company, but also accepting a 15 or 16 percent U.S. market share.

GM, like Ford Motor Co. and Chrysler LLC, submitted its plan in an effort to persuade Congress and the Bush administration to approve $25 billion in emergency loans to the Detroit 3 this month.

In the starkest acknowledgement GM has made of its financial condition, the company says it needs $4 billion in federal aid by the end of the month.

Henderson, in today's briefing with reporters, refused to say what would happen if GM does not get the immediate aid it seeks. But without government support, he warned, "the company cannot fund its operations."

In the plan submitted to Congress today, GM said: "Absent such assistance, the company will default in the near term, very likely precipitating a total collapse of the domestic industry and its extensive supply chain, with a ripple effect that will have severe, long-term consequences to the U.S. economy."

The GMAC factor

GM owns 49 percent of its financial arm, GMAC Financial. Private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management LP leads a group of investors that owns the remaining 51 percent. In GM's plan submitted to Congress, GM notes that GMAC cannot effectively access the secondary markets today.

"With each passing day, it is less able to finance the sale of GM vehicles, either for dealers or for the public. One year ago, GMAC was able to provide either installment or lease financing for nearly half of GM retail sales. That number has fallen to 6 percent today," the plan says.

GMAC is applying for bank status to gain some of the $700 billion bank bailout funds Congress provided this fall. GM says it is critical that GMAC regain access to lending capital, saying in the plan submitted to Congress that "GM believes that a healthy GMAC is vital to GM's success."

Request: $18 billion

GM's plan asks Congress for $12 billion in loans by the end of March. It seeks another $6 billion in revolving credit if market conditions don't turn around.

The total request is higher than the $10 billion to $12 billion that GM CEO Rick Wagoner requested of lawmakers during congressional hearings two weeks ago.

Henderson called the GM plan "a blueprint for creating a new General Motors -- one that is leaner, profitable, self-sustaining and fully competitive." Among its key features:

• Reducing the number of GM brands and nameplates, a step GM critics have demanded for years.

Henderson said GM will seek a buyer for Saab. Pontiac will be shrunk to a "specialty, niche" brand, Henderson said. GM already has put Hummer up for sale.

Under its franchise agreement with Saturn dealers, GM will seek a new course for that brand, Henderson said. Asked whether GM would sell or fold Saturn, he said he would not eliminate any options.

The brand "is just not successful," Henderson said.

The number of GM nameplates would drop from 63 today to about 40 by 2012, Henderson added.

• Trimming GM's 6,450 U.S. dealerships to about 4,700.

Most reductions would occur in metropolitan areas, Henderson said.

• Reopening talks with the UAW to cut manufacturing costs further.

Henderson declined to identify the additional concessions GM will seek. But he said GM expects to be fully competitive in labor costs with Toyota Motor Corp. by 2012.

Henderson estimated GM's total U.S. head count would drop from today's 96,000 employees to between 65,000 and 75,000.

• Negotiating with lenders and bondholders to remove about $35.6 billion in debt from GM's books. At the end of September, the company owed $66 billion. Henderson said that debt load is too heavy.

GM aims to achieve through negotiation the kind of debt reduction that otherwise might occur in bankruptcy, Henderson said. The plan probably will involve some exchange of debt for stock.

Breakeven: 13 million sales

Under its plan, GM would break even if U.S. light-vehicle sales recover to just 12.5 million to 13 million cars and trucks a year, Henderson said. Over the past few months, the annualized U.S. sales rate has been less than 11 million units. From 1999 to 2007, the industry sold more than 16 million new cars and trucks each year.

In its plan, GM also agreed to have a government oversight board monitor use of the federal money. Taxpayers would get a stake in the company in exchange for the loans.

After last month's congressional hearings, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., chastised the Detroit 3 CEOs for failing to make an adequate case for federal aid.

The leaders demanded that the Detroit 3 tell Congress in detail how they would use federal loans and how they would make themselves viable for the long term.

Reacting to lawmakers' complaints that the companies' CEOs came to Washington last month in separate corporate jets, Wagoner is scheduled to return to the capital this week in a Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid.

Wagoner has agreed to accept a salary of $1 next year. GM's board of directors also agreed to a retainer of $1 for 2009, and compensation for the next four most-senior executives will be cut roughly in half. The plan adds that GM's top five executives "do not have any employment or severance agreements."

GM says it is ceasing use of corporate jets. GM will lay off 50 employees in its corporate air services.

Committee hearings on the Detroit 3 loan requests are set for Thursday in the Senate and Friday in the House. As they did last month, the Detroit 3 CEOs and UAW President Ron Gettelfinger are expected to testify.

Reid and Pelosi have promised to call Congress back into session next week to consider the companies' aid pleas if the viability plans are acceptable.

Posted IN FULL due to subscription restrictions

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081202/ANA02/812029978/1200
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:37 PM
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1. I love my 2008 Saturn.
My mom loves hers.

Very strange.

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:38 PM
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2. Which model??????
:yourock: :patriot:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:41 PM
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3. Aura XR
Six-cylinder.

My mom has one of the new Vues. 4-cylinder.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:50 PM
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5. Chevy Malibu and Chevy Equinox, both cool
you will be fine.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:32 PM
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11. I love my Saturn.
Best car I ever had. I was figuring on getting another one.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:33 PM
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13. I really like the Saturn vehicles
but it doesn't look good for them. GM will "seek a new course for that brand." I don't see them being able to do anything other than shut the brand down. Saturn has newer, very nice models so the product aren't the problem. They can't really sell Saturn because the vehicles are basically the same ones their Opel brands sells. So, to me, it looks like Saturn might be gone soon.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:44 PM
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4. So $12B now and $6B LOC vs. $9B LOC? I say we save Ford and wave bye-bye to GM.

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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:15 PM
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6. And all of senior management will be replaced.
Wait, a guy can wish can't he? :shrug:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:20 PM
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7. The product in the pipeline is wonderful (Volt nonwithstanding)
The Cruze will attain 42+ MPG from a 140 HP direct injected turbo 4 cylinder and cost under $15,000 loaded. It will replace the Cobalt in 2011. This engine will be utilized in a whole lot of chassis. Use it in place of the 2.4 liter in the Malibu which gets 33 MPG with a 6 speed automatic and we could see 39 MPG highway from an intermediate.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:40 PM
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15. That's my biggest gripe. They ran these companies into the ground, and now they
want how much of my money?!? Pick up the clue phone, guys - you've got a track record and it ain't good!
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:54 PM
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17. Just remember, the employees who had NO CHOICE in their decisions suffer
if they don't get the LOAN.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:07 PM
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18. I'm not saying don't give them any money. I'd much rather help out an industry that
actually "makes" something. But there should be some serious strings attached somewhere. I work in the automotive field (auto auction) - we're feeling the effects of this, too.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:17 PM
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20. Adesa???? Manheim????
:hi:
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:44 PM
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23. Manheim. Close to 15% of workforce at our location laid off last month. n/t
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:50 PM
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24. Ah shit.
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 08:54 PM by DainBramaged
:cry: :hug:


Yet used is keeping dealers alive. Some dealers. Too many just closing their doors. In spite of what people thought, they aren't the most profitable business in the world. Last numbers I saw were dealers were working on a net profit of less than 1.7% for this year (GM REQUIRES all dealers numbers to make sure they have sufficient cash flow to stay in business). So if the dealer does $10,000,000 in business (half the dealers in America do $10,000,000 total sales or less) that means they net less than $17,000 at the end of the year.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:04 PM
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25. Gentle correction.....decimal error.....
net= $170K.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:22 PM
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27. 600 dealers have gone out of business in South Florida this year.
Almost all were independents - and lots of them were real small, selling just a few cars each month.

One of my dealer friends owns a Ford dealership in NH. He's really struggling - he's in his 60s now, and worked his whole life to build up the dealership, hoping to leave it to his sons. I guess they'll get what's left...
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:27 PM
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28. What happens is the people working tax the unemployment system
and since the surviving dealers aren't increasing their business by the same number of dealers who have gone out of business, everyone loses. What do these people do? What can they 'retrain' for? Office help is office help. Techs are techs. Salespeople are the ones really screwed.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:23 PM
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8. Help me understand why GM is keeping GMC
Since they're basically chevy trucks/vans. It should simply be chevy/buick/cadillac.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:27 PM
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9. It's their second best selling brand, behind Chevy
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:33 PM
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12. In the US, Buick is a close third, very close.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:39 PM
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14. Buick is the third best selling brand in the US?
I think Buick is one of their lowest sell brands. I think it goes: 1. Chevy, 2. GMC, 3. Pontiac, 4. Cadillac, 5. Saturn, 6. Buick, 7. Saab, 8. Hummer.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:49 PM
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16. Nope. I'll get the numbers and post them when I'm at work tomorrow.
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 07:51 PM by DainBramaged
My recollection is Chevy/GMC/Buick/Pontiac/Cadillac/Saturn/Hummer/Saab


Saturn has leeched sales from Chevy for about 5 years since they lost their identity.

The Opel/Saturn Astra was supposed to recharge the brand, but it didn't, not enough publicity.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:13 PM
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19. I thinks you are correct, found a PDF which I can't post (Production through 11/24)
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 08:14 PM by DainBramaged
Chevy: 2,386,768

GMC: 649,236

Pontiac: 352,723

Saturn: 232,138

Cadillac: 213,280

Buick: 176,205

Saab: 70,668

Hummer: 48,354

Your guess: 1. Chevy, 2. GMC, 3. Pontiac, 4. Cadillac, 5. Saturn, 6. Buick, 7. Saab, 8. Hummer.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:21 PM
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21. Based on the 2007 sales
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 08:23 PM by BreatheOnMe
1. Chevy, 2. GMC, 3. Pontiac, 4. Saturn, 5. Cadillac, 6. Buick, 7. Hummer, 8. Saab.

Globally in 2007

1. Chevy, 2. GMC, 3. Buick, 4. Pontiac, 5. Saturn, 6. Cadillac, 7. Saab, 8. Hummer.

http://www.gm.com/corporate/investor_information/docs/sales_prod/07_12/q4_deliveries_0712.pdf

Globally Buick is number 3, which is why Buick will survive. I also think Buick has a lot of potential in the US if it's given good vehicles like the Enclave. I'll be disappointed if Saturn goes because I really like their vehicles. But if Saturn needs to go, then it needs to go (I think the brand will be discontinued). I really like the Vue design so I hope it survives...maybe replacing the Chevy Equinox (the Vue is better looking) or a small Buick SUV.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:27 PM
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22. Something we did with the Vue which angered me immensely
Up until this year, it used a Honda engine. It was part of a technology swap, they bought shit from us, we bought shit from them, so in effect, our Vue's were Honda's. They are much nicer looking than the Equinox, HOWEVER, the Equinox Sport (3900 V6, dual exhausts, 18" wheels, the same suspension as the Buick Rendezvous) kicks ass.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:32 PM
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10. I agree, only re-badged, but the Buick/Pontiac dealers WANT SUV's to sell
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 07:34 PM by DainBramaged
and the GMC blingmobiles (just like the Cadillacs) Envoy (now defunct since it was a Trailblazer with better suspension and more sound deadening) and Yukon XL (Suburban) and XL Denali (Tahoe with the 6.0 liter kick ass motor standard) give them that opportunity. When you combine the Chevy and GMC truck sales, they beat Ford every year, but the powers that be still keep them as separate divisions.

I don't know how much longer GM will cannibalize itself. It can't afford to. That's why the end of Saturn is a good thing, since they are Chevy's and Pontiac's with different badges, and they fucked up the brand a few years ago. Of the top 20 selling vehicles, not one is a Saturn. The G6 Pontiac makes the top 20, and the Buick brand sells nearly 700,000 a year in China and the rest of Asia.
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:14 PM
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26. Will be sad to see pontiac and saab go
Haven't actually heard many good things about Saab, but I liked what I saw when I was shopping about a year and a half ago.

Losing pontiac AND saturn means no more solstice/sky. This is not good for the roadster market. But.. does that mean the miata wins? Yay miata! :D
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:43 AM
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29. Well, Pontiac will become the GM version of Scion, but with horsepower
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