Breaking from SOMOLIA....Pirates capture HMS WILLIAMSON An Aircraft Carrier w 2378 crew

[opihimoimoi]

from the UK.....

Tonga will send their elite forces to rescue.....


: o)

WTF is going on over there??? Ya would think this shit would be stopped by now???

Damn....this is nuts....

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. On a serious note, LINK

[opihimoimoi]

2. its facetiousness,,,to express frustration with something that should be solved by now

:toast:

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. It is, the Indians fired on them as in the Indian Navy

and NATO is starting patrols, fifth fleet is getting involved

And the French have called for conference to dot the I and cross the T on the legal bounds to start solving this on a serious way

And it will have to include draining the swamp quite frankly

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. Not a word on Google news, zip, nada comes up in search.

I second the need for link to this story.

[opihimoimoi]

20. please read #2..its a facetious story posted by frustration this has not een addressed yet

[dixiegrrrrl]

24. ty..sorry.....

But crap, if I may say in defense of anyone who took this serious at first glance,
that in this world of Bush waaaaaaaa, nothing seems surprising anymore. :crazy:

I want my planet back.
:cry:

[opihimoimoi]

25. Hahahah LOL...I can't blame you...its all in fun on a series subject matter

but can you see 12 guys attacking 2300 armed sailors on a ship bristling with weapons and armed helicopters? suicide.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. He was jocking

[opihimoimoi]

22. LOL.....Its amazing....

:toast:

[Unsane]

4. most awesome story ever

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

5. Lessee here:

SEALS, SBS, Royal Marine Commandos, German SPECOPS, Israeli SPECOPS...how many others? Lots of boats and ships with lots of guns. E2-C Hawkeyes that can scan huge areas of ocean and see your bellybutton lint. AEGIS.

And they can't take down these guys?

Something's hinky.

[rockymountaindem]

6. Basically until now they haven't been a big enough problem for anybody to care

The Somali pirates have basically been a "shiver me timbers" joke until a few days ago. Now that the pirates have peoples' attention, both with the hijacking of the arms shipment headed to Kenya an most recently the capture of that supertanker, maybe the world community will start to take action against them. On the other hand, the word "Somalia" conjures nightmarish visions for policymakers, so maybe not.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. It is legally hinky

the french called for a meeting to ahem fix that, and get the damn authority to do what needs doing

I am betting, once that happens, convoys will be making a comeback

We don't even need aircraft carriers, but corvettes can do the job, quite frankly, with some choppers

[opihimoimoi]

8. Dats whot I say too..."dere is sumpthin kinky going on"

WTF????

[mitchtv]

9. forget the nations, time for the shippers

to protect themselves before we start bombing innocent people, which is bound to happen. The saudis can afford to hire someone. A cruise ship was attacked some months back, and they escaped using speed and a sonic repellant

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Merchantmen cannot be armed

international law, goes back to the 1950s and in a few cases you don't want to be armed anyway... CNG, bullets, compromised containers, think big boom

[malaise]

12. Maybe someone wants maritime law changed before he leaves office

:shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Won't happen

the 1950s treaty took five years to negotiate.

Though they said today the companies should do exactly that, arm their ships.

But we have an administration filled with idiots

Mark my words, if need be, after Obama comes in NATO will actively patrol those waters, together with India and China

[cherokeeprogressive]

31. I'm curious as to what you're implying here.

Are you trying to say that * put Somalis up to be pirates because HE wanted to change some obscure law? * did that? Convinced the Somalis to become pirates in 92 when their fishing grounds were being overrun by huge commercial fishing boats?

Too funny.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

14. If you don't think...

That there are loads of merchantmen out there with well-concealed and well-equipped arms lockers...

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. I know that they don't and the few that have armed themselves

have gotten crew killed

Now as I said, think CNG, bullet, container.

There are some ships where you don't want even radios in the wrong place

Now there are a few out there that are armed, some very well armed... but they are the exception, not the rule

Now this may change, especially with piracy on the upswing world wide.

No, it is NOT just a somali coast problem

As I said in another thread, if they gave me a cruise ship ticket in the CARIBEAN I'd stay home

[Hardrada]

17. But some ships have a position called "master-of -arms" and I

imagine this person coordinates the defense of the ship.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. You can count them with the fingers of one hand

by International treaty merchantmen are not armed

This is actually an issue since some companies WANT to hire mercs, err security experts, to keep them safe

But there are a myriad of issues regarding armed people on board any civilian ship

[seemslikeadream]

10. Send in the Dolphins

[madeline_con]

18. Do you have a link?

[opihimoimoi]

23. A Link to the Kinky ...see $5

[Are_grits_groceries]

26. Oh, it's going to get taken care of.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4498888

The Islamists are probably being bankrolled by the "Powers", and the I's are not nice people.
They believe in sharia. I would let the ships go and head for somewhere.

[Liberal_in_LA]

27. Seems the high tech weapontry of the west is no match for pirates?

[taterguy]

28. Holy crap! Please post a link

I'd like more details on this story

[opihimoimoi]

29. Our State Dept(the New one) is considering sending all our REPUBLICANS over to SOMOLIA

to start a new GOV'T

Tom DeLay, Newt, etc etc will be very comfy there....

[taterguy]

30. What's wrong with Somalia's existing government?

[opihimoimoi]

32. According to reliable sources...Somolies have no Gov't since '92

Utter Chaos/anarchy/madness

[taterguy]

33. How reliable are the reliable sources?

[opihimoimoi]

34. Very...its an accepted thing...the Somolies are in dissarray

FUBAR

[Hubert Flottz]

35. Tis a foul wind indeed that blows off of the lads at 1600 Pa Ave.

How canst ye badmouth them bloody lads who are capturin' those ships off of Africa and overlook that blood thirsty crew of privateers that run the great ship of state in yer own country right now, matey?

[marshall]

36. Frankly I hope we stay the hell out of this mess

We've stuck our noses in far too many times. Let the countries involved fix this.