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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:16 PM
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"Worst Person in the World" plagarized from Bob & Ray
;-)
Bob Elliott (born 1923) and Ray Goulding (1922–1990) were an American comedy team whose career spanned five decades. Their format was typically to satirize the medium in which they were performing, such as conducting radio or television interviews, with off-the-wall dialogue presented in a generally deadpan style as though it were a serious interview.

Elliott and Goulding lent their voices to a variety of recurring characters and countless one-shots. Almost all of these characters had picturesque names, as in one sketch where Bob introduced Ray as one Maitland Q. Mottmorency, who then replied, "My name is actually John W. Norvis. I have terrible handwriting."

Their character known as "The Worst Person in the World" (a reference to New York magazine theatre critic John Simon, who gave their stage show a negative review) inspired the segment (and subsequent book) of the same name on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Olbermann is a committed fan of Bob and Ray, acknowledging them in his aforementioned book as a crucial influence, in addition to commending their spoofing of Joe McCarthy and Joseph Welch in the 1950s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_and_Ray
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:18 PM
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1. It's not plagiarized. Keith has publicly attributed Bob and Ray as his inspiration.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 05:21 PM by IanDB1
Thanks for playing, though!

1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarism


Since Keith has publicly acknowledged Bob and Ray as his inspiration, it is being done as an homage, and is NOT plagiarism.


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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:28 PM
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6. No one seems to have a sense of humor here.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:30 PM
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9. I have more DUzy awards than you do. n/t
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:44 PM
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18. Well then...nyah, nyah, nyah!
Thpppfftt
:P
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:26 PM
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2. Keith Olbermann mentioned this on The View the other day.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:26 PM
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3. I don't get it.
Are you a tool, or just play one on DU?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:31 PM
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10. I am a cordless drill.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:14 PM
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48. Of course cordless can't get married in Calif.
Before you flame me, i am poking fun at the stupidity of Prop 8.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:27 PM
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4. Olberman has given credit to Bob & Ray. nt
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:32 PM
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12. Read the last paragraph of the OP.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 08:02 PM
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51. Oops - sorry. nt
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:28 PM
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5. "Plagiarized?" He told everyone on the View where he . . .
. . . got the idea.

Sheesh.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:32 PM
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13. See post 12 and the OP.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:29 PM
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7. It's an homage, not plagiary.
Edited on Wed Nov-12-08 05:30 PM by stopbush
It's only plagiary if you don't credit your source. KO gives full props to the inspiration for HIS incarnation of Worsts.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:36 PM
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14. Is 'plagiary' a word? Archaic at best.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:30 PM
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8. "Countdown" plagarized from NASA!
:)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:32 PM
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11. ...
:spray:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:37 PM
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16. Thanks. At least somebody gets it.
:-)
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:15 PM
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26. Even worse, he plagarized "Olbermann" from his dad!
And the rumor is that "Keith" is not an original name either! Horrors of horrors. :scared:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:27 PM
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39. OMG!
The bastid!
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:36 PM
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15. Plagiarism is when the person using the material does not give credit to the author.
I see the last paragraph that KO has acknowledged them. However, I take issue with the plagiarism accusation in your headline. Were you intending to be humorous?? I guess the word is offensive.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:43 PM
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17. Humorous? Moi? Absolutley NOT!
I am dead serious.
And I'm HIGHLY offended.
And...ANNOYED!

I'm also miffed, put out, incensed (Patchouli), torqued, hosed, bummed, teed, and hacked.
:grr:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:46 PM
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19. I can't BELIEVE there is only one rec for this thread.
Where's your OUTRAGE?
:eyes:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:51 PM
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20. On top of all the above, remember that "Worst Person" is a title. Titles can't be copyrighted.
putting a little winky smily on your post doesn't make your pointless post less pointless.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:09 PM
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22. Well, thanks, Bucky. You a hell of a guy too.
As always, I value your opinions and critiques of my posts.
It means so much to me.
:sarcasm:
Get it?
:rofl:
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:04 PM
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21. A tip of the hat to Bob and Ray! Back when comedy was "take my wife..please"
they were doing some incredible, satirical skit comedy. Bob Elliott could deadpan anything and make you crack up. Some of their work...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-s9NMKuuiw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u6yrZNIaa0&feature=related

Oh and for those who don't know, Chris Elliott is Bob's son.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:11 PM
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23. I grew up listening to them. Hilarious.
Wally Bellew
:rofl:
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:16 PM
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27. Thanks trof
You made go to YouTube and get a good half hour of laughs. I appreciate it.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:25 PM
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38. My pleasure. Have you noticed that there are no comedy duos now?
None that I can think of.
Stan and Ollie, Lum and Abner, Frick and Frack, Abbot and Costello, Burns and Allen, Martin and Lewis, Allen and Rossi, Rowan and Martin (different Martin;-)), The Smothers Brothers, Cheech and Chong.

Hunh.
:shrug:
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:23 PM
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37. "Lee Bellew"
They always pretended to cut to Wally Bellew (pretending to be reporting from a remote location) just a hair late in mid-name. " -ly Bellew here reporting from the scene of the crime."
Always liked them.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:17 PM
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50. Hmmm, tell me more about your wife. nm
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:12 PM
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24. at least KO has acknowledged it, and so has letterman acknowledged Steve Allen's inspiration
let's face it, there are damn few truly original ideas.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:13 PM
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25. *sigh*
Only need 3 more recs for The Greatest.
gee
:-(
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:27 PM
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40. make that two more
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:39 PM
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43. You're a peach and a real brick.
I promise to rec all your threads from now on.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:09 PM
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47. you young whippersnappers and your beatnik lingo!
never been called a "brick" before. HA!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:19 PM
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28. Slow...
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:20 PM
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:21 PM
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36. America!
:hi:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:35 PM
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41. VERY well done.
I think you have an 'eye' for graphics in threads.
Or something.
:-)
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:54 PM
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44. I can hear that routine so well in my head...
Somebody used to play it on the radio all the time back in the 70s. Hilarity!

--IMM
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:36 PM
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42. I will. I promise.
:hi:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:16 PM
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49. I did and I do. nm
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 06:57 PM
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45. Off to the Greatest with you, troffy!
I got it right away, too bad so many others didn't catch your style. :hi:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 07:08 PM
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46. You didn't! You DID?
trof luvs Bunny.
:loveya:
Hi girl!
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