Who cares if Gonzales resigns?

[bluestateguy]

OK, so Gonzales resigns. Guess who would get to appoint the new Attorney General?

And if the Senate rejects that appointee, guess who gets to appoint the new Attorney General?

And if the Senate rejects that appointee, guess who gets to appoint the new Attorney General?

Does anybody here think that ANYBODY Baby Bush appoints to the Justice Department would be any less bad than Gonzalez and Ashcroft?

See why this is a waste of time?

[BlooInBloo]

1. Um, I do.

EDIT: Thanks for tuning in to another episode of Simple Answers To Simple Questions.*


* (c) Atrios.

[Erika]

7. You forget that it is now a Dem controlled congress

His fringe appointments won't make it. He had Ashcroft who couldn't stand women statues showing their naked breasts to Gonzales who was ready to lick up scraps from W's table of plenty.

[BlooInBloo]

20. I appreciate you telling me what I do and do not remember.

[babylonsister]

2. Someone fucks up, they need to go. Speaking of *... nt

[autorank]

3. bluestateguy...I'm a pessimist too but check this out.

http://tinyurl.com/3b8tcp

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. you know by that logic

Rummy shoould still be SOD

[napi21]

5. It would matter to me! I never thought I'd ever say this, but

Ashcroft was better than this idiot! He was weird with his drapes over the statues,but he was at least honorable. Remember, it was Ashcroft who told the AH'S NO when they went to him in the critical care unit in the hospital!

Even the MSM has said Shrub probably won't fire Gonzo because he would have to nominate a much more centrist AG in order to have him/her confirmed by the Senate now.

[Eric J in MN]

21. "told the AH'S NO"

What does that mean?

[napi21]

28. Some reps from the WH wanted Ashcroft to sign off on wiretapping

without having to go through the FISA Court. He had had some kind of emergency gall bladder or apendix surgery and was recouperating in the ICU. Those a** holes (AH'S)went to the ICU to get his signature and he refused, saying it was WRONG!

[Kagemusha]

6. The resignation would be a waste of time.

Propagating far and wide WHY he should resign... that, has value.

[KarenS]

8. Actually, I hope he doesn't resign,,,,

like you said, it doesn't really matter because the next will be as bad or worse than he is,,,, but, for as long as he hangs in there, the controversy will continue and I'm enjoying every delicious minute of it. So I don't think it's a waste of time at all.

[dEMOK]

23. Great Point...

Maybe he should simmer in his own stew for a while.

[MADem]

9. I sure do!!!!! We need to separate that bastard from his cronies.

And every resignation or dismissal further weakens the BushCo authority--both moral and actual.

And that's a good thing. NOT a waste of time.

[NanceGreggs]

10. See why this is a waste of time?

No, I'm sorry, I don't.

Because the alternative is to stand by and do nothing, say nothing ... and thereby BE nothing.

And if the Senate rejects that appointee, guess who gets to appoint the new Attorney General?

And if the Senate rejects that appointee, guess who gets to appoint the new Attorney General?

And if the Senate rejects that appointee, guess who gets to appoint the new Attorney General?

We can play this game as well as BushCo can -- only LONGER.

[physioex]

13. Exactly....

I am sorry to hear that some people consider going after the thugs in the Bu$h administration a waste of time. If it weren't for Fitzgerald how would Scooter have been brought to justice? What is the other alternative just twiddle our thumbs and watch?

Personally, I consider Gonzalez small potato, the real thug is that Walrus Traitor Rove......

[IChing]

22. John N. Mitchell is not remembered in history and he went to prison

Gonzales is small potatoes compared to the men behind the scene.

Not saying he is nothing, I do think Gonzales should go to jail for destroying the constitution
and promoting torture on the world stage.

On February 21, 1975, Mitchell was found guilty of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and perjury and sentenced to two and a half to eight years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and cover-up, which he dubbed the White House horrors. Tape recordings made by President Nixon and the testimony of others involved confirmed that Mitchell had participated in meetings to plan the break-in of the Democratic party's national headquarters in the Watergate Hotel.

In addition, he had met, on at least three occasions, with the president in an effort to cover up White House involvement after the burglars were discovered and arrested. In 1972, he warned reporter Carl Bernstein about a forthcoming Watergate-related article: "Katie Graham's gonna get her tit caught in a big fat wringer if that's published." This threat against the Washington Post publisher is considered the most famous threat in the history of American journalism.

Around 5 P.M. on November 9, 1988, he collapsed from a heart attack on the sidewalk in front of 2812 N St., N.W., Georgetown, Washington, DC. That evening he died at George Washington University Hospital. He was buried with full honors at Arlington National Cemetery.

[dEMOK]

11. You're Missing the Larger Pic...

Finally (since the election gave Dems subpoena power), accountability is taken to top figures. With each domino that falls -- another is in range.

This is not vindictive -- only appropriate. Previously (pre-election), the only heads that rolled were far down the chain of command.

(Ironically, Bush started the ball rolling by firing Rummy.)

[caligirl]

14. plus it guts the bush admin, gonzo has been on the Bush dole$$ for 20 years.

[dEMOK]

16. Very True...

...and Gonzo has been the facilitator/enforcer of the "Unitary" president (while Cheney's been the pusher of same).

Bush will be compelled to appoint a non-Gonzo-like replacement (like he did with the SEC DEF).

[Parisle]

12. It doesn't have to be a waste of time

--- The appointee selection and confirmation process would go a lot more smoothly if Gonzales were to find himself on the way to prison for about five years,.....

[aquart]

15. Thank you for your concern.

Since all is hopeless, why do you bother?

[TahitiNut]

17. Yep. Waste of time. Let's all just give up.

Helpless. Can't do anything. Need 60 votes - 67 to override veto. It's useless.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Eric J in MN]

18. Even if the next US Attorney General is just as bad...

..it still can reassure prosecutors trying to do their jobs that if they get fired for political reasons, the US Attorney General may have to pay.

I want to see Alberto Gonzales go.

I'm not getting my hopes up, however.

[dEMOK]

24. Gonzo is a Cheney (PNAC) Puppet...

He's only one card in this house of cards.

[ninkasi]

19. I care

Gonzales is a loathsome toad, and needs to go. We will be able to fight any far right-wing nominees much better now, even though our slim majority in the Senate could cause a fierce battle. It's worth trying. The longer Gonzales is AG, the more damage will be done. He's the one who found a way for Bush to torture people. I can never forgive or forget that.

I'm not going to give up without a fight, and I doubt that the majority of the American people find Alberto a sympathetic figure. He's too creepy, and I've overheard that mentioned a time or two. He invokes the gag reflex in a lot of people. Anyway, I'm tired of surrendering without a fight.

[Swamp Rat]

25. No

I think firing Gonzales and refusing every one of Bushler's appointees would prove very useful in the end.

Each event would be like another brick removed from The Wall.

[dEMOK]

26. Agreed...

This admin has already removed many lower "bricks."

The American people demand much more accountability. The higher bricks are starting to fall (accountability).

We don't want failure, we embrace success. This admin is based on fear.


Fear is not a foundation for moving forward -- it is a rationale for moving backward.

Who understands this?

[rec_report]

27. Good point, but at least the torturer would be embarrassed and gone.

n/t

[frogcycle]

29. I'd rather he didn't

I want them to get so "circle the wagons" defensive that they infuriate even the worst political-hack chickenhearted congresscritters into action.

I want a showdown.

Just having them turn tail one at a time and slink off only to be replaced by something worse is only stalling tactics to allow them to continue their rape and pillage of the country.

I want every congresscritter to watch, and re-watch, the tape of Biden ranting the other day. Then I want them to pick up pitchforks and march down Pennsylvania Avenue with arrest warrants.