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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:27 PM
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Happy St. Patrick's Day.



The Green Field of America

Farewell to the groves of shillelagh and shamrock.
Farewell to the girls of old Ireland all round.
And may their hearts be as merry as ever they could wish for.
As far away o'er the ocean I'm bound.

Oh, my father is old and my mother quite feeble;
To leave their own country it would grieve their heart sore,
Oh the tears down their cheeks in great floods they are rolling
To think they must die upon some foreign shore.

But what matter to me where my bones they may lie buried
If in peace and contentment I can spend my life
The green fields of Amerikay they daily are calling
It's there I'll find an end to my miseries and strife.

So pack up your seastores now consider it no longer
Ten dollars a week isn't very bad pay
With no taxes or tithe to devour up your wages
Across on the green fields of Amerikay.

The lint dams are gone and the looms are lying idle
Gone are the winders of baskets and creels,
And away o'er the ocean, go journeyman cowboy
And fiddlers that play out the old mountain reels

Ah and I mind the time when old Ireland was flourishing,
And most of her tradesmen did work for good pay
Ah, but since our manufacturers have crossed the Atlantic
It's now we must follow on to Amerikay.

And now to conclude and to finish my ditty
If e'er a friendless Irishman should happen my way
With the best in the house I will treat him, and welcome him
At home on the green fields of Amerikay.


Last year, we had some fun on DU, discussing some Irish history. I had hoped to post some more information this year, though this turns out to be a day where I have some difficulty getting around. My wife gave me a nice Chieftains 2-CD set, and I'm listening to "The Green Fields of America." It's a powerful song, and I think that most people -- be they part Irish or not -- would appreciate the emotion of this tune.

Days like today, I use my favorite black thorn shelalagh to get around. It was my grandfather's grandfather's walking stick. He survived the Great Starvation, and died at an old age in the 1860s. My great grandfather kept the walking stick, and brought it to this country with his family a few years later. My grandfather was a child when they came over; he gave the shelalagh to my father, who in turn gave it to me.

When I use this walking stick, I know the man who used it first lived through the Great Starvation. What a time! There is a part of George Bernard Shaw's "Man and Superman" that I would like to share with you:

Malone: "My father died of starvation in Ireland in Black '47. Maybe you've heard of it?"

Violet: "The famine?"

Malone: "No, the starvation. When a country is full of food, and exporting it, there can be no famine."

In 1845, the potato crop that most of the Irish Catholics on the southwest of the Old Sod depended upon became diseased. Within the year, the crop was reduced to less than 1/5 its normal normal yield. For thousands of families, this created a crisis.

These families had been reduced from land owners to the status of tenets on tiny plots of a foreign landlord's farm. Thus, although they produced bumper crops of barley, wheat, and oats, the landlords demanded these crops as rent. The Irish depended on the potato for a large part of every meal.

British historian Robert Kee noted that on one day in November of 1848, the following items -- raised by the Irish farmers -- were sent from Cork to England: 147 bales of bacon; 120 casks and 135 barrels of bacon; 5 casks of ham; 300 bags of flour; 300 head of cattle; 239 sheep; and 542 crates of eggs. There was no famine.

But there was starvation: Ireland had over 8 million people in 1845; by 1851, more than 1 million had died of starvation and the diseases that feed upon malnutrition. Two million more Irish had boarded the Irish "Famine Ships" that sailed to North America,bringing the original "huddled masses."

When my great grandfather was faced with leaving Ireland for the green fields of America, he brought this black thorn walking stick to remind him of his late father. My family came through NYC, to Nutley, NJ, and then followed the paths of the railroads. Others were already here, employed largely as stone-cutters, on the canals and early railroads. The worked, boxed, saved money, brought others over, sent their children to school, and lived part of the American dream.

Today, I used this shelalagh to walk out and watch my younger son train for a boxing match in April. He loves to listen to the Chieftains, particularly "O'Sullivan's March." He punches the heavy bag for several rounds, before turning and asking me, "What is that motto again?"

"Lamh foisneach abu!" ("The gentle hand to victory!") It is the motto of the O'Sullivan Mor Clanna, from ancient times, I remind him.

Life presents many contradictions.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:30 PM
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1. Happy one to you from the "Campbell Clan." The One's who landed in Ireland
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 06:32 PM by KoKo01
May the wind always be at your back."

Peace!
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:13 PM
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45. Peace be with you Campbell
from the Clan Donald.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:33 PM
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2. Happy St Paddy's day
We were from Galway
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:33 PM
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3. Slainte!!!
May you be in Heaven a half an hour before the Devil knows you dead!!!
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:34 PM
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4. It's an old joke, but stil a funny one, and yes, I'm Irish
Did you hear the one about the little paddy who went to Rome to see his Holiness the Pope? Little Paddy got so drunk that he kissed his wife and beat the Pope's foot to a bloody pulp with coal shovel. Thanks to P.J. O'Rourke.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:35 PM
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5. Erin Go Braugh!
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 06:36 PM by zidzi


Thanks for that beautiful story, H2O Man..and my friend at the library and I were discussing this today.."Why was there a famine in Ireland just because the potato crops were killed off?"
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:41 PM
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6. They are some beautiful and some ironic words, to be certain.
Now jobs go from America, to across the Pacific.

Happy Saint Pat's to H2O Man and DU! :hug:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:53 PM
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7. Why Didn't The Church Help
The tithes were paid, were they not, no matter what?
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:56 PM
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8. "Bonny Portmore"
"Bonny Portmore is a public domain traditional Celtic folk song, which details the centuries of Ireland's old oak forests being leveled for military and shipbuilding purposes. Specifically The Great Oak of Portmore."

I watched a special program on the English navy in which they discussed the volume of timber needed to equip their navy. I gritted my teeth through it knowing from whence came the building materials they needed. And I'm several generations removed from my Irish roots.

O bonny Portmore, you shine where you stand
And the more I think on you the more I think long
If I had you now as I had once before
All the lords in Old England would not purchase Portmore.

O bonny Portmore, I am sorry to see
Such a woeful destruction of your ornament tree
For it stood on your shore for many's the long day
Till the long boats from Antrim came to float it away.

O bonny Portmore, you shine where you stand
And the more I think on you the more I think long
If I had you now as I had once before
All the Lords in Old England would not purchase Portmore.

All the birds in the forest they bitterly weep
Saying, "Where will we shelter or where will we sleep?"
For the Oak and the Ash, they are all cutten down
And the walls of bonny Portmore are all down to the ground.

O bonny Portmore, you shine where you stand
And the more I think on you the more I think long
If I had you now as I had once before
All the Lords of Old England would not purchase Portmore.


Happy St. Patrick's Day.

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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:12 PM
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12. Heartbreaking.
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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:47 PM
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37. Have you heard Loreena McKennit sing this?
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:08 PM
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42. I have her CDs.
Her voice adds to the melancholy of the story in the words. I love her harp playing.

It's such a sad story which she sings so well.

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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:03 PM
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9. La fheile Padraig shona duit, mo chara.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:07 PM
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10. 'Beannachtam na Feile Padraig!'
:thumbsup:
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:10 PM
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11. Having been married to two Irishmen, I was taught to stand up to this one...
And come tell me Sean O'Farrell tell me why you hurry so
Husha buachaill hush and listen and his cheeks were all a glow
I bare orders from the captain get you ready quick and soon
For the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon

By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
For the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon

And come tell me Sean O'Farrell where the gath'rin is to be
At the old spot by the river quite well known to you and me
One more word for signal token whistle out the marchin' tune
With your pike upon your shoulder by the rising of the moon

By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
With your pike upon your shoulder by the rising of the moon

Out from many a mud wall cabin eyes were watching through the night
Many a manly heart was beating for the blessed warning light
Murmurs rang along the valleys to the banshees lonely croon
And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon

By the rising of the moon, by the rising of the moon
And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon

All along that singing river that black mass of men was seen
High above their shining weapons flew their own beloved green
Death to every foe and traitor! Whistle out the marching tune
And hurrah, me boys, for freedom, 'tis the rising of the moon

'Tis the rising of the moon, 'tis the rising of the moon
And hurrah, me boys, for freedom, 'tis the rising of the moon

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Background: This song relates to the Rebellion of 1798. The air is an O'carolan melody also known as "Wearing Of The Green" and the lyrics were written by J. K. Casey (1846 - 1870) a Fenian from Mullingar.



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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:36 PM
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18. Now you've done it!
The Uprising of 1798 .... it resulted in the execution of one of my ancestors, and another being imprisoned in a dungeon. They were both among the United Irishmen. I've often thought that period should be made into a movie.

One was Robert Emmet; William Jennings Bryan used his speech to the court, after being found guilty of "treason," in his 1906 book "The World's Famous Orations" (Vol. VI; pages 137-148). Here is part of it:


"What have I to say why sentence of death should not be pronounced on me according to law? I have nothing to say that can alter your predetermination, nor that it will become me to say with any view to the mitigation of that sentence which you are here to pronounce, and I must abide by. But I have that to say which interests me more than life, and which you have labored -- as was necessarily your office in the present circumstances of this oppressed country -- to destroy. ....

"Was I only to suffer death after being adjudged guilty by your tribunal, I should bow in silence, and meet the fate that awaits me without a murmer; but the sentence of law which delivers my body to the executioner will, through the ministry of that law, labor in its own vindication to consign my character to obloquy -- for there must be guilt somewhere; whether in the sentence of the court or in the catastrophe, posterity must determine. ... you, my lord, are a judge.I am the supposed culprit; I am a man, you are a man also; by a revolution of power, we might change places, tho we never could change characters. ...As men, my lord, we must appear at the great day at one common tribunal, and it will then remain for the searcher of all hearts to show the collective universe who was engaged in the most virtuous actions, or actuated by the purest motives -- my country's oppressors or --"

At this point, Lord Norbury told Emmet to be quiet and listen to the sentence of the law.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:08 PM
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21. What a story, and what beautiful eloquence. It is reminiscent
of Socrate's Apology and also reminds me of Patrick Henry's 'Give me Liberty or Death' speech (whom i'm related to supposedly)
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:25 AM
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52. I love this story and speech. This ancestor is with you today H2O man.
I can feel him in every word you write.

You have done all of your kin so proud. They are cheering you in heaven.
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:14 PM
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13. Peace to you all.
From a Patrick . . .
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:16 PM
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14. 'And the top o' the evening to you' H2O Man! and Happy
St. Pat's day. This was a wonderful post and I'm sending it to my father who is Scotch Irish and German. I know he will love it. Someone recently mentioned the previous H2O Man DU thread on St. Patrick's Day. Do you have the link to the archive? I'd love to read that one too if we can!
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:20 AM
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51. I have been talking about H20 Man's St P Day since last March. And bugging him
Edited on Sun Mar-18-07 07:22 AM by cassiepriam
to make sure he does it again this year.

I cried the whole day on last year's thread. Not gonna cry this year, I promise!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:20 PM
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15. A day to think on those who made that sad crossing
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 07:21 PM by havocmom
And those who battled bigotry for a generation or three after that crossing...

To grandparents with such lovely names and lilts in their voices! To the many who tried to earn a place to stand tall by joining the Irish Brigade in the War Between the States! Not many lived to enjoy the promise.

To our first territorial governor out here in Montana, Thomas Meagher! He was a lucky born son of a comfortable family in Ireland. But he wanted freedom and the crown was not amused with his efforts. He knew the importance of symbolism for a people and brought the Tri-color as a banner for the people to stand together under. The crown finally had him removed to Tasmania. He didn't much like it and came to America.

Law school and newspaper publishing at a time when Mr. Weed's friend, Mr Greeley, was telling young men to 'go west'. Meagher came west after serving as a general in that horrible war. He served as the first governor of the Montana Territories. Made some enemies here too. Seems he did understand the Native Americans' side of many problems arising from the influx of white men to the west. Meagher understood what it was to be an occupied people.

Meagher of the Sword, passionate orator, general, mover of men, Irish-American by choice.

To those who made the sad crossing and went on to make a great nation on this shore so far from home.

We tell their tales. And sit, pondering the shelalagh, hanging at peace over the hearth of our home.

To those who made that sad crossing and whose blood flows in our veins. We raise voice and make merry that their shades will come and dance with us. They knew the power of dance, of the movement of people together. They knew the power of song sung together.

To those who made that sad crossing....
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:24 PM
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16. "They knew the power of song sung together."
Amen to that. There is no greater power.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:27 PM
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17. You are a wealth of knowledge, H20 Man, and you tell a wicked good
tale. Thank you, I hope you get to feeling better, and Happy St. Patty's Day!:toast:

P.S. And watch out for those snakes! ;)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:42 PM
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19. Well the thousands of Irish in Jamaica
for the Cricket World Cup are in St Paddy's Heaven tonight as Ireland pulled off one of the greatest upsets in World Cup history by beating Pakistan and sending them out of the World Cup. I can even sing their fan song now - it wa all green at Sabina Park today and we had a ball.

Tonight the Irish fans head to Ocho Rios for the St Patrick's Day party.

http://content-wi.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/285820.html
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:52 PM
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20. How wonderful it is that you know
who they were and what kind of lives they lived! My maternal grandfather was Irish and spoke very little about his family even though he lived with us. My mother told me that his father and grandfather were sign painters and his grandfather or his father worked on the stained glass at St. Pat's Cathedral in New York City and were known for their colorful painting of peddler wagons.

A good friend of ours (with just a wonderfully great brogue) reminded me of the following blessing this week as she learned of my latest work troubles. I offer it up for your tribute to St. Pat's Day!

May God bless those who love us.
And for those who don't love us, may God turn their hearts.
And for those whose hearts cannot be turned,
May God turn their ankles
So that we may know them by their limping.

:toast:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:35 PM
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22. My roommate is irish.
Not genetically, genetically he's about half spanish, half sicilian. But today's his birthday, so on the day he was born, both his parents were irish. :)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:40 PM
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23. "Mullac Abu"
on our family crest is traditionally translated as "Victory from the Hills".



I like to think it translates nicely to our modern era as "Saving Democracy with the Internet".

:toast:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:44 PM
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24. The outcry about flags of another country is DEAFENING!
'Cuz being anti-immigrant isn't about about racism, dontchaknow.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:46 PM
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25. My maternal grandparents came from Ireland
They, and my parents, are gone now. Every St. Patrick's Day, I make my way to the pub and toast them.

When I was very young, my mom would pin one of those little green pipecleaner shamrocks to my clothing on St. Patrick's Day and say to me, "You tell those kids that if anyone pinches you, it's bad luck." I think I still have the bruises.

As I'm on my way out the door, a blessing:

Walls for the wind,
And a roof for the rain,
And drinks beside the fire -
Laughter to cheer you
And those you love near you,
And all that your heart may desire!

:toast:

Slainte,
Julie
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:48 PM
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26. Happy Saint Patrick's Day to all!
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 08:50 PM by mzmolly
I am quite Irish meself and I always enjoy an opportunity to "learn" about my own history from your posts H20Man.

I recently read a tad about the "coffin ships" that brought the starving from Ireland to their new homes, if they were fortunate enough to survive the journey. It is said that sharks used to follow the ships as they were a sure source of food. Bodies were of course tossed overboard when one didn't make the trip.


Coffin Ships

In the first year of the Great Famine, when the nearing disaster became obvious, well-to-do families from other parts of Ireland followed. Most of these emigrants were barely affected by the beginning food shortage and had managed to put money aside for the passage. The economic value of these second wave emigrants was less when compared with the early emigrants, but nevertheless they also managed to settle in the receiving countries. By then the United States had become the favourite destination, followed by Canada and Australia. They shared their enthusiasm with relatives left behind in Ireland and within a year the number of emigrants rocketed.

With the number of emigrants the prices for the passage increased. People sold everything but the clothes they wore to gather enough money for the passage. Even heirlooms as Claddagh rings were cashed.

Throughout the Great Famine Ireland remained an exporter of corn and meat (please take a moment to register this bizarre fact) and when a tenant abandoned his land the land could be used to grow cash crops or for cattle raising. Some landlords persuaded hesitating tenants to emigrate by offering so-called arrival money. Needless to point out that this promised amount was rarely waiting across the Atlantic.

Not only landowners, but also ship owners cashed in on the situation. Old and unseaworthy ships were deployed to meet the need. Obviously this was not without danger for the passengers nor the ticket seller. Denis Mahon, the owner of Strokestown Park House, was shot because he hired unseaworthy ships. The ships were overcrowded and rarely provided sufficient food and sanitary facilities. The weakened passenger were an easy prey for diseases brought from Ireland. It was rather rule than exception that 20 to 40% of the passengers died during the passage made by these so-called coffin ships.


http://www.triskelle.eu/history/emigration.php?index=060.090.030

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:53 PM
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27. There is a wonderful book
titled "The Famine Ships: The Irish Exodus to America (1846-51)," by Edward Laxton. It was published by Henry Holt & Co, around 1996. He was/is a journalist with a couple papers in England. His book was perhaps the single best I've read on those terrible ships.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:17 PM
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34. I shall have to check the local library.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'm recording a program tonight about the history of the Irish in America, I think it's going to be an interesting program.

:hi:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:54 PM
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28. And a Happy St Patricks Day to you and yours
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 08:57 PM by symbolman
From the Larrigan Clan - me mother's maiden name, Philomena Mae Larrigan..

As a matter of fact my sister is deep into family geneology and has contacted and Visited some distant relatives in Ireland, who she invited back to our country for a Family Reunion in late July, so we'll be meeting blood from the Old Country and a long way back.

One of their youngest is in a group and has to work his tour dates to visit with us all, my sister just this morning sent me a link to their Band's music, and I haven't listened to it yet, but there's no better time than now.

Here's the link if anyone is interested: http://www.teada.com

She's traced us back a LONG way, and has the chops to do it, at one point she's been the editor of Alaska Magazine, a writer, and most of our clan moved there back in the 70's during the Pipeline days - should be interesting to see what the Irish blood who visit think of Alaska, I've seen mountain glens that moved me, reminded me of that GREEN that you only see there and in England, that I've seen nowhere else.

I hope you'll consider a gift of my book once it's published H2OMan, and let me know what you think of it, and if it will potentially help to change our culture, and instill more respect for the environment, and understand the angle of inviting folks to dig deep into their soul and FEEL more a part of the Environment and eco systems there, a bell weather state for warnings of global warming which I've seen firsthand there in and since the 70's.

I know you'll do me justice should you read and comment on the book, as I believe that the Irish are instilled with a 'justice' gene, that gives them a rare wit, and motivates them to fight for all mankind, and those caribou as well. :)

The wind at your back, the sun on your face... :)


Here's the cover, book to be finished in first draft from, small round of publishing in a few weeks:

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:03 PM
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31. Was her family
from County Clare? That sounds like one of the numerous variations of O'Loirgneain (which would include the Co Clare Lardner's, Largan's; Lerhinan's, Lernihan's, O'Largin's, and Largan's).
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:11 PM
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33. I'm not sure, but it sounds familiar
I'll have to cut and paste the names you've listed and email them to her if you don't mind, and get back to you on that..

Sure sounds like what I've heard, but lost my mother at age 46 when I was a wee teen, and not much interested in listening.. my sister will know..

Intriguing, thanks.

And I return to my regularly scheduled meal of corned beef and cabbage :)

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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:46 PM
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36. I listened to all five song samples from your young relative
and I'm listening to the fifth song, Planxty, in the background now and it's the 3rd playing for me. Their music is really good! And so fitting for St. Patrick's Day. This last song is especially lovely, lyrical, and hauntingly mystical like so much of Irish music that I love. (It just ended and I'm going to replay it!)

And I'm intrigued by your book cover title. The Jesus Bolt. Care to explain the symbology for us symbolman?

Happy St. Patrick's Day and thank you so much for the delightful treat of Irish music!!!!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:11 PM
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44. I haven't listened yet so thanks for the review :)
Funny, I used to work in a tape reproduction facility, and sometimes tapes would get recorded backwards, and oddly enough I discovered that if you play Irish music backwards, it sounds a LOT like Jimi Hendrix, strange but true :)

The Jesus Bolt is that part in the top of a helicopter that holds all of the blades together, and ONTO the chopper, when that falls out, the next person you will be talking to is Jesus, himself, as the old chopper pilot saying goes :)

In my book, it is a metaphor for what holds everything together, the Universe, each person's moral system, the environment, and the ecosystems.

The book is fiction but based on my real experiences back in the 1970's when I flew around in Helicopters all over the upper half of Alaska, looking for Uranium for the Dept of Energy. While up there I had many adventures, chased by bears, run out of a village naked by the whole village, bristling with hatchets and shotguns, back to our camp where the Vietnam Vet pilots of the choppers where pulling their guns - with us stuck in the middle :)

We moved our mobile camps all over the face of Alaska, saw everything east, west and north of Fairbanks, every mile by chopper, even crashed in one. It took them four days to find us and they KNEW where we were!

We snuck into Oil camps, both Prudhoe and Deadhorse and I witnessed firsthand the effects on the animals by those Oil companies, even saw a caribou give birth in a pool of oil, where both the mother and foal died on the spot.

I saw global warming right as it was starting up there, and we discussed it during our four days crashed in the middle of nowhere. The story goes from a drug dealing cab driver, run out of Fairbanks in the 70's by bikers, forced to flee to the chopper job, where he meets a sort of 'shaman of the tundra', and enlightened Vietnam Vet who teaches him to grow, get closer to his spiritual beliefs, while showing him how to meditate and do yoga in the mountain tops, despite all the death around him via the Pipeline..

At one point, and this is true, I literally watched a nearly a million (must have been, had to have been) Caribou Migrated under us, while flying at 3000 feet and 150 mph, and I saw NOTHING but Caribou from Horizon to Horizon in all directions for a good 20 minutes, in that low sun, where their bodies and fur shimmered like gold, their breath created rainbows -- it was a religious experience, and I want other folks to know, feel, and possibly SEE that experience as well.

Think MASH, the movie, only in the Tundra of Alaska :)

No where in the world is there MORE life than on the Steps of the Brooks range in the fall. Nowhere. The REpigs would have you think it's a wasteland, it's NOT.

So I've spent five years writing this work, to join Spirituality and the Environmental movement at the hip, and potentially save the Alaskan Native Wildlife Refuge from the oil companies..

I've got some Hollywood interest in the book before it's even published, so that bodes well.. wish me luck, and don't let YOUR Jesus Bolt fall out :)

Thanks for asking, I'll let you know if/when it gets published or optioned for a film :)
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:35 AM
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48. Oh thank you so much for the preview and the explanation
of the symbology. I don't think I've ever heard that very apt term before, Jesus bolt. What wonderful life experiences have motivated you. I've imagined somewhat similar religious experiences with animals (deer, buffalo, horses, even cattle) ...and your real experience with the Caribou is reminiscent of Black Elk's Visions, if you've ever read him. Sounds like a wonderful book and potential movie, and yes do let me know! And I'll try very diligently to keep my Jesus Bolt screwed on tightly!

And I'll have to listen backwards to Irish music...strange. And you must take time to listen to the samples. Great! I listened to the 5th one about 10 times.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:40 PM
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64. Black Elk was like a god to me
And Chief Sealth, or Seattle as they called him later..

I should put a few quotes in the book by men such as these, they are Spiritual Heroes, Warriors for TRUTH :)

I'll be sure and let the DU know if anything Pops with this book/potential film - If enough DU'rs like it, who knows, could make it a best seller, that would be a feather in the DU cap, I'd think.. hell, because of the DU, I was able to go on O'Reilly's show, and Scarborough's Twice! Of course I had to do some work to get there as well, but I always mentioned the DU when I went on TV.. a fabulous resource with great folks..

Like YOU :)

Thanks, I need to go listen to my relative's music now, while I have a leftover corned beef sandwitch :)

All the best!
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:32 AM
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58. wow!
now THAT is adventure!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:33 PM
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63. Yep
it sure was, after two years of that I figured that I'd basically LIVED in Helicopters for six months of my life, as we Sampled lakes, streams, etc we ran across the tundra for 18 hours a day for two summers with 24/7 sunlight, ate like pigs, and RAN some more..

We had a grizzly catch us at what we called The Shrine, where a Caribou was wrapped around a tree, and a big circle had been dug up around it, like a crop circle.. Pulling up Tundra is like trying to yank up a whole room full of shag carpet with your fingers that's been nailed and glued down, yet someone had taken a LOT of time and POWER to create this 'Shrine', draping the half rotted caribou with vines that didn't grow for many miles around there, in tundra so flat that your shadow tells the TIME - the sun is so low and circles the horizon, so you're standing on a a giant sun dial..

So while we were taking pictures of this Shrine our chopper TOOK OFF and left us.. we saw WHY soon enough, a Grizzly bear was bobbling in the distance and making it's way to US, to kill us.. The Shrine was it's FOOD. The chopper had taken off to try and scare the bear away, but was having no luck, so we had to RUN the opposite direction and hope the Chopper CAUGHT UP TO US BEFORE THE BEAR DID..

Needless to say the chopper DID lead the bear, but not by much.. we had to run FROM the bear (who can run as fast as a Race Horse for short distances) and CATCH the Chopper, who could not land.. I jumped for the pontoons, and reached behind for my pal, who LEAPED into the air, grabbed his arm and PULLED him aboard the pontoons just as the Bear's CLAWS SWIPED through the air WHERE my pals legs had been a Second before..

Talk about a total buzz, eh? Now THAT was adventure :)

Got tons more in the book, plus a great story - I'm beginning to think there's nothing out there on the market Like This Book, so it will be interesting to see how they try to catagorize it..

But like I said, I'm trying to raise awareness with these adventures, and want people to KNOW that These animals are a Part of them, and We are a part of The Animals.. What if the Caribou ARE the Jesus Bolt of the ecosystem, and if that Jesus Bolt gets yanked out, and they go down, the Whole House of cards might fall.. :)

THanks for the interest, I got a million of them :)
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 05:58 PM
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66. I don't think you've got a lot of competition.
Good luck with getting a great story out!:hi:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 06:25 AM
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68. I love the song Planxty too. Playing it now.
Wow the Jesus Bolt symbolism is incredible,
had not heard of it before.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:56 PM
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29. The corned beef and cabbage and potatoes are a'cookin'...
and we're celebrating the birthday of Falky, our German Shepherd, born on St. Patty's Day, and now in Heaven with the rest of our clan. And here's raisin' a cup to Great Grandmother Fanny Green, Irish as they come, who rescued my newborn father from *his* Cherokee father at gunpoint, for a day or so, because he didn't understand "Irish."

May the wind be always at your back....and your shelalagh near at hand!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:00 PM
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30. Happy St. Patrick's Day from an Irish Collene!
:hi: Weird spelling, I know, but I am 1/2 Irish. Guess my parents just wanted to be different.
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Sybil_23mist Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:07 PM
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32. Back atcha
from an Irish newbie :toast:
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:57 PM
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40. Welcome to DU Sybil_23mist! And Happy St. Patricks!!!
:hi: Don't know how to so the smiley mug thing, but back at you!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:17 PM
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35. A Happy St. Patrick's Day to you and yours....
I've always loved St. Paddy's Day...having the last name "Patrick" lends itself nicely to the day. :)

Cheers! :toast:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:51 PM
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38. I learned something today, H2O Man:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:53 PM
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39. And, a bit of a look at Irish emigration to the U.S. - since so many
of us here are a) from the U.S. and b) owe our very existence to these immigrants.

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Irish Emigration

From the early eighteen the century to very recent times emigration has been a distinctive feature of Irish life. Even before the Great Famine which began in 1845, Ireland was known for its exceptional outflow of people. While emigration from Ireland peaked in the early 1850s it has persisted with only brief remissions until the 1980s.
Most Irish emigration has been directed towards America. It is estimated that well over 6 million Irish people migrated to America since 1820. The figures below give some indication of the scale of the phenomenon.
1 million 1815 –1845
2 million 1846 – 1855
3.5 million 1856-1921
It is estimated that between 1851 and 1860, 81% (990,000) of all emigrants to America were Irish.

A distinguishing feature of Irish emigration was the large number of females, often young single women, who emigrated to america (sic). Between 1856 and 1921 half all Irish emigrants were young women.

For example, between 1876 and 1885 the female /male emigration ratio from County Mayo by way of Irish ports to the USA was 120/100 and in the years 1886 to 1905 it reached a peak of 175/100. Fitzpatrick, David, “The Modernization of the Irish Female”, in P O’Flanagan, P Ferguson and K. Whelan (eds.) Rural Ireland 1600-1900. Modernisation and Change, Cork, Cork University Press, 1987.

In Ireland emigration has always been viewed as involuntary exile, something that was forced on people rather than chosen. The Irish word deorai means exile and this view of emigration as loss is also seen in the phenomenon of the "American wake" which linked emigration to death.

Another characteristic of Irish emigration is that very few emigrants ever returned to Ireland.

Today one sixth of US citizens (43 million) identify their national background as Irish.

link to this
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:58 PM
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41. Thank you! You saved me a google. ....n/t
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:24 PM
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46. My grandmother was one of those young single Irish women....
who came over to NA. In her case, it was to Canada.
She came over in 1912 on the Montrose. Her ship sailed in April 1912. I believe it departed about a week or so before the Titanic.
Apparently she and the other passengers weren't informed about the sinking until they arrived in Quebec for obvious reasons.
As a footnote, my Grandmother had gone on a tour of the Titanic while it was still docked in Belfast. She and her sister were there and apparently it was the first time they had ever encountered a black person in their lives. she was about 22 then. He was part of the crew working on the ship.
She had a full life ahead of her after that having nine kids and raising them on a farm in Saskatchewan.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:32 PM
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43. Another Irish Story...
Great-great grandfather fell in love with a young woman back in Ireland in the late 1800's.

Only problem - he was on track to be ordained as a Catholic priest... He was ordained and gave her his ruby ordination ring to pawn. He said meet me in Australia in seven years.

So she went to Austrailia and he met her there. They married, moved to Canada and later to the lowe peninsula of Michigan.

They had a handful of children, all named afer Austrailian cities: Melbourne, Adalaide, Sidney, etc.

And she was able to get to Australia wihtoug pawning the ring, which is still in the family.

Happy St. Pats to all.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:27 AM
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61. Ah, she wouldn't ever pawn that ring would she?
What a lovely story.

Brings back a memory from my family.

My grandparents came from Ireland to America as a young married couple. In America they had eight children and followed the old country traditions. One tradition was that the youngest male and female child in the family were promised to the (Catholic) Church. When they were 10 yrs old my aunt and uncle were packed off to the convent and seminary respectively.

Many years later, a few months before my uncle was to be ordained, my grandfather fell ill and was hospitalized. He was taken care of by a beautiful young nurse. My uncle fell in love with the nurse and left the church to marry her. It was the scandal of the family for a long time and Grandma never got over it.


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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:25 PM
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47. Happy St. Pattys day...
from a Scot -- we are one, lad! :toast:
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:11 AM
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49. Happy St. P blessings to you H2O Man
My people are said to descend from an ancient Celtic family headed by Mac Seanlaoich, the old warrior.

I confess I can often feel the mystical pull of roots going back to Druid times.

I do not know if other nationalities can feel their ancestors' blood in their veins, but the Irish can. It is hard to explain. I believe H2O Man can feel it too. The ancestors are with us always, we can feel them around us.

These ancestors have given me my fierce pride, and an inner compass of right and wrong. And an almost foolhardy willingness to stand up for what is right. And the strongest independence, I am owned by no one. Ever. And a determination that is second to none. Some might call it stubbornness.

My grandparents came from the old county when they were a young married couple. My father may have been born on the ship as they made their way to America. My father refuses to believe this and insists he was born on American soil. I like to think he was at least born in American waters. :)

The memory that has come back to me the most this week are such minor ones of my very Irish grandmother. With her thick Irish brogue telling me stories of the leprechauns and fairies: If you can catch a leprechaun, you must spit on him to get his pot of gold. He is slippery devil.

As she would tell these stories she would make me a special mug of tea: hot milk, lots of sugar and a good splash of hot tea. It was the most heavenly combination you can imagine. And I felt so grown up.

From Grandma I got my reddish hair and green eyes. And my temper :(.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:12 AM
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50. A bit of music: Danny Boy
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:27 AM
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54. I remember when
the great Irish boxer Barry McGuigan would fight, his father would sing the most wonderful version of "Danny Boy" that I've ever heard. It literally would bring tears to my eyes. I have a few versions of the song on tapes and CDs.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:30 AM
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55. You might like this from Ytube, re Barry Mc
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:14 AM
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57. Wow!
Thank you. I appreciate that.

I was watching Barry on Friday night. He was announcing John Duddy's fight at the Felt Forum at Madison Square Garden, with Gerry Cooney.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:08 AM
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59. Did you read the comments following this video? Posters wanting to get a copy of
Barry's dad singing DB before the fights.
They are saying it was instant
tingles up the spine. Someone replied that he
has it on VHS and will try and get it into
the computer if he can.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:15 AM
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60. I know nothing about boxing, but forgive me for saying, as I looked at the video
Barry looks so thin and scrawny.

He must have been one heck of a scrapper to win fights?
Stubborn determination I suppose. Like all the people in my family.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:26 AM
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53. Wonderful post, warmed this Irish heart
My people are also from Ireland, my grandfather came here through Canada. I will always be grateful for the ability to see the humor in almost any situation as well as the ability to survive almost anything.

If only my dad were still alive, I'd've given just about anything to be able to have a perch dinner and green beer at Pat O'Brien's just one more time.

:toast:

Julie
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:08 AM
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56. The Irish & the railroads ....
"Two years, ten years, and passengers ask the conductor: What place is this? Where are we now?"
-- Carl Sandburg; Grass




Last year, one of the bits of Irish immigrant history that I told about involved a group of the Irish who were employed building a railroad in rural, central New York. An estimated 15% of the Irish who came to the US in the starvation years left the eastern cities for this type of work.

I live a few miles outside one of the villages that did not welcome the Irish immigrants employed building the railroad just after the Civil War. It was one of the many railroads and canals that my family helped to build, and many years ago, I would walk along the abandoned tracks with my father. He would tell me how they used to call the railroad ties "headstones," and say there's a dead Irish immigrant under each one.

A group of about 30 of the immigrant workers died in their camp, not far from the spot shown in this picture. They died of some communicable disease associated with the crowded, unsanitary conditions associated with these camps. Some of the old-timers from this area say that it was from "the pox," although all the informationI have seen would indicate that cholera and diphtheria were the two diseases most likely to have killed these men.

The local WASP community did not want contact with the living Irish, much less those dead from such a disease. Thus, although there is a small "pioneer" cemetery there (visible just beyond the trestle), the Irish were buried in an unmarked, mass grave along the bank.

A few years back, an author of several of the best railroad history books in the country called me. He had been trying to find the site, but was not able to. Someone had suggested that he call me. It is one of those places that you don't see, unless someone points it out. And then you can't miss it.

I remember showing him around the place, including where the old "flag station" had been, and the foundation of that trestle. And the cemetery. We sat there quietly for an extended time, and then he said how sad the place was. I asked him why? He said because of how these people had died a lonely death, far away from their families. He said it was unlikely any of their relatives knew how or where they died, and that after the indignity of their burial, no one ever visited their grave.
And that there is no record of who exactly they were, or what their names were.

I think certain places have a power from their history, and I was impressed that this man really felt what was there. And one of the most important things was that we were there. We were visiting their grave, and remembering them. And when we left, I invited him to my home, and showed him things, such as a clay pipe with the Liberty Bell and "1776-1876" marked on it, used by one of the Irish immigrants who cut the stone on that railroad. And I showed him old photographs and tin-types of some of those previously "faceless, nameless" men.

Last month, he sent me the photo (above) of the trestle and cemetery. Another historian sent along some old newspaper clippings he found while doing research, that told of the conflicts between the village and the immigrant Irish in the year after the the mass grave was dug. I had hoped for better weather yesterday, as I would have visited this site. But soon enough. Spring is almost here.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 11:30 AM
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62. Belated best wishes!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:41 PM
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65. May the Road Rise Up To Meet You
May the road rise up to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face;
the rains fall soft upon your fields and until we meet again,
may God hold you in the palm of His hand.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 06:20 AM
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67. I love this blessing.
It was the central prayer at my sister's funeral.
So it has a lot of meaning for me.
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