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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:42 PM
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(My head hurts.) Georgia school board looking for way to teach creationism

Answering Mr. Fanti in advance here: BECAUSE IT'S SLOW, YOU IDIOT!!!!!!!!11

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The Brunswick County (Georgia) school board is looking for a way for creationism to be taught in the classroom side by side with evolution.

"It's really a disgrace for the state school board to impose evolution on our students without teaching creationism," county school board member Jimmy Hobbs said at Tuesday's meeting. "The law says we can't have Bibles in schools, but we can have evolution, of the atheists."

When asked by a reporter, his fellow board members all said they were in favor of creationism being taught in the classroom.

The topic came up after county resident Joel Fanti told the board he thought it was unfair for evolution to be taught as fact, saying it should be taught as a theory because there's no tangible proof it's true.

"I wasn't here 2 million years ago," Fanti said. "If evolution is so slow, why don't we see anything evolving now?"

The board allowed Fanti to speak longer than he was allowed, and at the end of his speech he volunteered to teach creationism and received applause from the audience.

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20080916/ARTICLES/809160338/1004&title=Brunswick_school_board_to_consider_creationism_teaching
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:44 PM
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1. and these people vote, breed, and are left unattended
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:45 PM
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4. Also, we are constantly being urged to cater to them for their votes
which we will never get.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:46 PM
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8. That's the sickening truth.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 01:50 PM by Solly Mack
Fact is, when you pander to that kind of ignorance you are perpetuating the ignorance. You are then treating ignorance as legitimate and valid.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:51 PM
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12. and they are voted into political offices...
and cited as authorities...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:53 PM
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14. I know! The mind wobbles
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:45 PM
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2. How about they learn about creationism in their churches
and evolution in school. If they don't like that arrangement, they are free to find private schooling for their children.
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Georgiadawg Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:45 PM
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3. Thank goodness for the Georgia State School Board
Sorry your head hurts! I know the feeling.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:46 PM
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5. Welcome to DU, dawg!
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Georgiadawg Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:46 PM
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7. Thanks!
;-)
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:46 PM
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6. Here's an idea
if they want to teach it so bad, teach it in English class. As fucking fiction.

Just like the Bible was taught to me in 11th grade. (non-judgmentally, I might add)
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OldEurope Donating Member (654 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:47 PM
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9. I was not here...
... 2000 years ago. Why should I believe in Jesus?
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:48 PM
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10. To that line, I would stand up and retort...
"We just witnessed a prime example of DE-EVOLUTION. And, if this school board wishes to have their children loose jobs to foreign workers, for whom science is not a sin, then please by all means vote to NOT TEACH these children...because that's what you are doing."

J
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:50 PM
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11. oh lord. help us.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:51 PM
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13. "why don't we see anything evolving now?"
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 01:52 PM by marmar
He must be spending too much time looking in the mirror.

:freak:


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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:55 PM
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15. I don't mind the "teaching" of creationism...
...as long as it is part of a "World Myths and Superstitions" class.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:15 PM
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20. that's what they did in my high school
which was a catholic school, no less(!)...It was 'world religion', and we studied origins and beliefs of Judaism, christianity, islam, and the ancient greek mythologies...all taught with an even-handed, nonjudgmental viewpoint. Of course, that teacher was very liberal and pissed off a LOT of students and parents because he didn't vibe with their fundie worldviews...
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 01:57 PM
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16. Hey, Mr. Fanti, if you lived in Alaska you could see evolution move faster!
What an ass.

I suppose he doesn't think there's no Constitution because he wasn't there to see it written or signed.


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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:02 PM
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17. Anger.... rising....
I'm taking a master's level course in evolution this semester and I can name about 50 things that are evolving right before our very eyes that have a MEASURABLE difference in before and after phenotype and genotype.... not over millions of years, or thousands of years, or even a year..... MONTHS is all it takes.

Example: HIV virus.

When AZT is given to an HIV patient for the first time, it is quite successful, killing off a massive percentage of the virus. However there are a few viruses that survive because of a mutation in a molecular structure. So, the ones susceptible to AZT die off. The immune ones live on, reproduce, and the viral load explodes again. The result is a significant change in both the phenotype and genotype of the entire population of the virus over many generations. (The very DEFINITION of evolution.) By the end of an 11 month course of AZT, AZT is rendered nearly completely ineffectual because the virus has EVOLVED to be immune.

11 months is all it takes.


Or it's just God making sure biology doesn't get in the way of his righteous vengeance.... whichever. :eyes:



Do these people have the capability to read ANY scientific literature?


If anyone is interested, I highly recommend the movie "A Flock of Dodos" - all about creationism masquerading as "intelligent design" and the jackasses trying to shove it down our throats.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:05 PM
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18. Jimmy Hobbs, school board member and North Carolina realtor:
"...The law says we can't have bibles in schools, but can have evolution -of the atheists."

Well- you stupid f*ck, thats because schools are for learning. And what does 'atheism' have to do with this?


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OswegoAtheist Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:14 PM
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19. It never ends....


Oswego "You'd think that people whose family tree resembles a bag of pretzels would believe in genetic 'variation'" Atheist
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:16 PM
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21. welcome to the site!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:27 PM
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22. We do see evolution, asshole
Where do you think MRSA came from? It evolved from other bacteria.

I am so fucking sick of these know-nothings.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 02:28 PM
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23. teach a course on "Speculative Fiction"
(not Science Fiction - science fiction has to be based in science)

You can also cover writings by such fiction writers such as Dick Morris, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, etc. ...
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