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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:37 PM
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I'm a liberal
Are you?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:39 PM
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1. I'm a liberal.
A New Dealer, at that. And I vote!

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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:42 PM
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3. As am I....a proud shout it out loud liberal.
Tikki
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:39 PM
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20. Say it LOUD - I'm a liberal and PROUD!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:40 PM
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2. I AM A LIBERAL! n/t
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groovysunlight Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:43 PM
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4. I prefer progressive, myself
"Liberal" implies an anything-goes philosophy (ethically) which I am not down with. But when it comes to treating all groups equally, then yeah--I want that to happen. (Plus, the other side sullied the term 'liberal' back in 1988 when Georgie Sr. dissed Dukakis about policies like prisoner furloughs and so it became associated with total lawlessness and letting dangerous people out on the street (which was a fabrication, but still...).
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:48 PM
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9. Agreed. Although I'd like to take back the term.....
....it's not going to happen.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:43 PM
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5. There Is No Liberal, ONLY ZOOL.


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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:44 PM
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6. and damn near a Marxist
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:46 PM
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7. Liberal on many issues, conservative on some, not a joiner or follower
I pick my political positions Chinese Restaurant style based on merit as I see it:

One from Column A, two from Column B. With five or more you get free egg roll.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:50 PM
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ummm....eggrolls
Same here, mostly liberal. I believe in equal rights for all and copious freedoms, but I believe in consequences for personal choices as well.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:39 PM
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I've moved around so much I do the same. But I certainly lean liberal. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:48 PM
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8. liberal here
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:49 PM
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10. I'm a librul.
One o' them thar stinking, commie, pinko, slacker, libruls.

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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:49 PM
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11. Pretty sure
Not even sure where the freakin bar is set anymore. Probably considered "worse" by some of my friends heh.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:50 PM
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12. Yes I am!
Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.


I have a problem with the TOLERANT part. I want to beat the crap out of Bush, McCain, and Palin for starters...also include.....Ron Christie....that's all for this hour.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:55 PM
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13. Lib vs Con is too much like gangsta stuff
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 05:56 PM by tjwash
Seriously...it's just a bunch of smoke and mirrors that the ultra powerful elite throw at us. They love to magnify our differences to the point where it keeps all of us squabbling and fighting amongst each other all the time, while they steal us blind and get shit like 78 billion dollar bailout packages. It's a very very old principle that goes back to before the Roman empire, that happens to work extremely well.


Can't we all just...get along?

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:56 PM
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14. I dunno if I am or not, but
All my heroes are liberals.

-Hoot
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:56 PM
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15.  I'm so liberal...
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 05:59 PM by Spike89
I only use my right hand for wiping...
Not only my heart, but my lungs, pancreas, liver, and spleen bleed constantly...
I'm willing to believe that somewhere there's a conservative that can be brought to the light...

Well, I'm pretty liberal on almost every topic, but actually have been known to disagree with the party every once in a while (but never enough to vote for the "other side")
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:00 PM
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16. Socialist here
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An Intellectual Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:02 PM
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17. I'm socialist/progressive; the country needs more of us!
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 06:02 PM by An Intellectual
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:04 PM
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18. Every time this comes up I post this.......(yes, I'm a liberal)


John F. Kennedy

September 14, 1960

What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

But first, I would like to say what I understand the word "Liberal" to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a "Liberal," and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.

In short, having set forth my view -- I hope for all time -- two nights ago in Houston, on the proper relationship between church and state, I want to take the opportunity to set forth my views on the proper relationship between the state and the citizen. This is my political credo:

I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, in the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, the faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith. For liberalism is not so much a party creed or set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.

I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a superstate. I see no magic in tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale federal bureaucracies in this administration as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.

Our responsibility is not discharged by announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons that liberalism is our best and only hope in the world today. For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 campaign is whether our government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility.

Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose. For many years New York represented the new frontier to all those who came from the ends of the earth to find new opportunity and new freedom, generations of men and women who fled from the despotism of the czars, the horrors of the Nazis, the tyranny of hunger, who came here to the new frontier in the State of New York. These men and women, a living cross section of American history, indeed, a cross section of the entire world's history of pain and hope, made of this city not only a new world of opportunity, but a new world of the spirit as well.
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lynettebro440 Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:07 PM
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19. I have been a proud liberal my whole life
"If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without RIGID REACTIONS, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES WE CAN BREAK THROUGH THE STALEMATE AND SUSPICIONS THAT GRIP US IN OUR POLICIES ABROAD, if that is what they meant by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." -JFK
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:39 PM
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21. Progressive left.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:41 PM
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22. Yes.
Want more liberty for working people, and less for the hereditary rich, politicians and corporations.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:50 PM
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23. I am a human being! I want something a bit better to give and pass on to others.
I know my life is not complete if I don't contribute to something OTHER than myself.

I AM A HUMAN BEING.

I want to be important and meaningful and powerful.
I want to be valued and understood and rewarded.
I want to figure out LIFE.
I want to feel safe and make others feel safe.
I want to be better, the best.

I want to be loved and respected and nurtured.

I want acceptance as a human being!

I want,...a LOT,...as a human being.

I am a human being, a being that CAN NOT BE CLASSIFIED by those who demand classifications because there is no classification for every living being,...not even by humans.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:52 PM
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24. I am a human being! I want something a bit better to give and pass on to others.
I know my life is not complete if I don't contribute to something OTHER than myself.

I AM A HUMAN BEING.

I want to be important and meaningful and powerful.
I want to be valued and understood and rewarded.
I want to figure out LIFE.
I want to feel safe and make others feel safe.
I want to be better, the best.

I want to be loved and respected and nurtured.

I want acceptance as a human being!

I want,...a LOT,...as a human being.

I am a human being, a being that CAN NOT BE CLASSIFIED by those who demand classifications because there are no classifications for EVERY living being,...in spite of the demand by human beings.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:00 PM
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25. Since I eschew "identity politics" and support justice and equity for people who don't look like me
... yes. I've been a lifetime independent liberal.

Those who make a "CAUSE" out of their own demographic group and sneer at (and insult) others ... I doubt they qualify as liberal, no matter how much they posture. (Some are even in this thread.)

:shrug:


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