Palin: "Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to earth in my lifetime"

[Bluebear]

...Bess was not the only man in the room who has had firsthand knowledge of how Palin’s evangelical views color her world view and therefore, potentially, her policy-making decisions. Phil Munger, our host and author of the Progressive Alaska blog is also a noted local musician and has had many dealings with Sarah Palin in the past.

says that Palin also helped push the evangelical drive to take over the Mat-Su Borough school board. “She wanted to get people who believed in creationism on the board,” said Munger, a music composer and teacher. “I bumped into her once after my band played at a graduation ceremony at the Assembly of God. I said, ‘Sarah, how can you believe in creationism — your father’s a science teacher.’ And she said, ‘We don’t have to agree on everything.’

“I pushed her on the earth’s creation, whether it was really less than 7,000 years old and whether dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. And she said yes, she’d seen images somewhere of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them.”

Munger also asked Palin if she truly believed in the End of Days, the doomsday scenario when the Messiah will return. “She looked in my eyes and said, ‘Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to earth in my lifetime.’”

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[JFN1]

1. More right-wing whackery

we just don't need another nutcase in the WH.

Good catch!

[K Gardner]

2. Oh hellit !!!

[Patsy Stone]

3. Hell to the NO!

:freak:

[DemoTex]

4. Whew! Jesus is coming!

I'd been sleeping. Guess I should clean the house. Jesus is coming! Pass it on.

[Zhade]

30. A logical (ha!) question about the Immaculate Lack of Contraception...

So follow me here: if jesus is, like, sort of/sort of not god, when the christian god boned Mary, did he shout "jesus is coming"?

...

Thanks, I'll be here all week! Try the fish - it's (allegedly) all you can eat!

[Arugula Latte]

54. Sarah Palin would have made Mary pay for her own rape kit after the deity had his way with her.

[Ghost in the Machine]

32. He really LOVES the marijuana brownies I leave out for him...

... or maybe that was Santa Claus...

[Zhade]

34. Same difference.

NT!

[Ghost in the Machine]

40. I always get my fairy tales mixed up... they're hard to keep track of..

What's next, someone gonna tell me there's no Christmas Bunny??

[Indenturedebtor]

62. Actually that was me. Please leave out the walnuts next time

I'm in your base eating all your brownies :hide:

[bushmeister0]

77. Damn, and all I've got in the fridge is pork chops!

[az chela]

5. better hers than mine

[WindRiverMan]

6. Oh shit, we just did eight years with one of these whackjobs

Please not again.

[flvegan]

7. "I was for the Rapture To Nowhere before I was against it."

[Faygo Kid]

8. While riding a dinosaur, no doubt.

[JenniferJuniper]

20. Rapture on a raptor!

[Bluebear]

35. WELL DONE!

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

9. OH! I! HOPE! SO!!!

:rofl:

[onecent]

10. Hell the Rapture came, and only 3 people are missing!!!! n/t

[Subdivisions]

11. So, let me get this straight...

She actually thinks that this charismatic guy who filled people with self-awareness, morals, purpose, and hope some 2000 years ago is going to suddenly re-appear on Earth to scoop up only those who are good little boys and girls, instead of the down-trodden and lost souls he so expertly ministered to lo those many centuries ago?

That's radical Christian extremism in action right there.

[ladjf]

21. She'd better watch out about all of her lying. Jesus might come back

but not pick her to go to heaven.

[Zhade]

33. So let ME get THIS straight - some people actually believe this jesus guy existed...

...despite the lack of evidence? Remember, kids, Josephus' "proof" was a forgery!

However, you bring up a good point - why would this jesus dude bother with the people who were good only because they'd been ordered to by an authoritarian god they can't even be sure exists? Wouldn't he be way more interested in the good people who helped the downtrodden with no spiritual star system incentivizing them to do so?

[Subdivisions]

43. I believe that Jesus existed. I have no reason not to considering

that Christianity is based on him. We've all seen cults of personality. However, I am a modern human who does not believe in mysticism as they surely did 2 millenia ago. Therefore, I have a hard time with the idea of a God and his rapture.

[camio]

12. This reminds me of a Jewish banner I see when I drive to Brooklyn...

When I drive down along Eastern Parkway (which is heavily Hasidic), there is always this banner that proclaims "Messiah Is Here!!". The funny thing about it is that this banner is tacked on this rinky-dink little shed - so I chuckle to myself - "What, he's here in your shed? Everyone gather round!"

It's so pathetic that people with these Creationist beliefs have the nerve to try forcing those beliefs on the sane ones.

[babsbunny]

13. Bring it on Jesus!!!!!!!!!!

Please! I can't stay here much longer!!!!!!!!!!

[jeff30997]

14. Jesus is coming !

Well Salin:

[TahitiNut]

15. They'd probably throw Him into Guantanamo.

:shrug:

[madrchsod]

18. waterboard him.....the cross is so 2000 yrs ago

[Hugabear]

16. Let the banks fall apart and the economy collapse. It's okay - JESUS IS COMING!

That's how these people really think. It's okay if the world around them burns to the ground, because Jesus will come and save them.

[old mark]

60. Right! This is how Bush has been running the US.

They really believe that the big magic in the sky will save them (only the good and pre-elected "them, of course, certainly not everyone.) no matter what they do or how badly they treat everyone else. These people are very close to crazy, and a lot of them have crossed even that line long ago.

mark

[madrchsod]

17. jesus ain`t taking these guys to heaven

...hey "jesus is just alright with me"

[Kerrytravelers]

19. Good. Let Him rapture her. The rest of us will be waving goodbye.

:hi:

[StarryNite]

56. Yeah, and the wolves and bears

will be glad to see her go too.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

22. Sure, Moosey, Now excuse me so I can flap my arms

and fly to the moon. :crazy:

[prayin4rain]

23. Quick, everyone look busy!!!! n/t

[codjh9]

24. Like the bumper sticker says: "Lord, Please Save Me From Your Followers", and

don't forget "Pray Now For a Secular Future". :^)

[dflprincess]

25. And Sarah will be part of the crowd screaming

"Give us Barabas."

I doubt she'd recongize Jesus even if he came up and slapped her.

[hay rick]

26. Obama is the One!

Maybe that's what she means?

[hatrack]

27. Because I, myself, me - Sarah Palin - am so FUCKING IMPORTANT . . .

. . . that Jesus is gonna pop right up like a gigantic divinely stage-lit Jack-In-The-Box roughly 2,000 years after his last scheduled appearance, clearly implying by such action that everyone from Tiberius to Frank Sinatra, Galileo to Liberace, and Pliny the Elder to Einstein was just so much warm bathwater - not NEARLY important enough to rate a personal visit from Jeezus.

[hfojvt]

48. that isn't what she said or implied

Let there be straw.

[hatrack]

65. Clearly implied - Jesus has been "coming soon" for 2,000 years, but has been holding off for Sarah?

Waiting for the perfect moment, right? Waiting for the True Prophecy to be promulgated, right?

Immaterial anyway, save for its potential impact on affairs in this world, for two simple reasons:

1. Palin, et. al. (Snake-Handlers R Us) are certifiable whack-jobs.

2. Jesus is still dead, and he ain't coming back. Palin, Parsley, Robertson and a whole bunch of others need to deal with it.

[hfojvt]

67. Sarah expects to live another 30 or 40 years

and so will another 8 billion people. If Jesus returns in the next ten years then he would also be returning, presumably, in my lifetime, yours, Al Gore's, Trent Green's, etc., etc., etc. Hence, it is clearly not 'all about Sarah'.

Palin may be a whack-job. However, her statement about Jesus' return does not make her so. Not in the eyes of "a whole bunch of others". Some of the irrational hate in this thread, though, does not reflect well on us.

[Zhade]

28. "with human foot prints in them" - IN them? Like, imprinted into the BONE?

I swear, these christ-fuckers are so impossibly stupid it hurts.

[bdamomma]

29. oh this woman and her cult has to go

we do not need her in the WH or near the button. One lunatic in the WH was enough for 8 yrs.

No, this woman is dangerous, I am tired of these right wing religious extremists imposing their sick view of religion on us, can't they just leave us alone.

[sarcasmo]

31. Keep this NUT! job out of office. The fable will never come back.

That brain washing at church is just un-real.

[Canuckistanian]

36. She's gonna get a lickin' when Jesus comes home

And the Lord did sayeth unto Sarah, "Why didst thou bear false witness against thy neighbor Obama? Thou art truly damned to Hell."

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. You know what is commical?

Let's take them at their word for a second... do indulge me

He does come back to earth oh lets say tomorrow

Given his views et al... how many want to bet he ends up in your local loony house within ten minutes, for his own protection of course

What is more... Sarah would be shocked at what Jesus actually preached.. and if he went for his original views, he'd sound more like oh Rabbi Akivah than any of the preachers good sarah is thinking off

Wouldn't this be fun?

[Dukkha]

38. apparently he got lost between here and Pluto

since every generation thinks they are the last one and no one has shown up yet to last call.

[rug]

39. Vice versa works just as well.

[Kablooie]

41. What an arrogant prick she is.

Why the hell do these people think THEY will be privileged, in all of history, to experience Jesus's return to earth.

Just the basic idea is crazy enough, but to think that YOU will be one to see this is even MORE whacko.

[Bluebear]

42. "And if he doesn't come, well I'll press the nuke button and rapture all of us!"

[Arugula Latte]

55. Exactly. Setting aside the idiocy that people really think Jesus is coming back

to save people (yeeeeah, that could happen), like you, what gets me is the blatant ARROGANCE and EGOTISM of these numbnuts who think they of all people who have lived for 2,000 years are the ones Jesus is timing his big encore for. :eyes:

[leftofthedial]

44. narcissistic bitch

[Spritz57]

45. Apart from all the good humor. . .

Friends this is very troubling if true. Remember Watts, the interior secretary under Reagan, who was selling off government lands for minerals and timber at an alarming rate? When asked about his actions, he responded flippantly, "Don't you know Jesus is coming?" This particular theological view can be cataclysmic for someone with authority over our weaponry and military. If anything can be named gloom and doom, this would be the one. Be very afraid. . . It is very likely in her world view armageddon leads to heaven on earth with God's chosen. It is not a stretch given the videos postings from her church that she may see herself as the agent of divine intervention.

[Patsy Stone]

46. Welcome to DU!

And she's terrifying on many levels.

:hi:

[Spritz57]

76. Thanks for the Welcome!

:)

[Arugula Latte]

69. Gawd, James Watt, what a freak he was.

The thing was that the press back then did point out his extremism. With these Neocons, the nutball beliefs are just parr for the course.

[RagAss]

47. Well, I think we'll see this again in our lifetime....

[XemaSab]

52. I was saying the SAME THING not four hours ago

I can't see Barack, Joe, or John literally having their heads chopped off if everything goes south... Sarah... I can see torch and pitchfork sales going through the roof. :scared:

[RagAss]

58. Actually, I had Wall Street in mind..... corrupt bastards...

[bluesbassman]

49. What should really scare the rank and file reupug,

is that if she really is a fundamentalist, and not just pandering, then she may very well believe the "end is near". Now, what happens when McLame punces his ticket (highly likely given his age, medical history, general disposition), and Palin assumes the throne, er, presidency? Does even the stupidest secular repug want someone with their finger on the button who may be hearing "the voice of God" telling them that Armegeddon is upon us, and it's her duty to light it off? Man these people are unbelievable!

[magellan]

50. Mix that certainty with the power to start wars

...and you have self-fulfilling prophecy. Okay for the "rapture ready" like Palin, not so great for the rest of us with families and hopes and dreams for our lives on earth.....

[libnnc]

51. In my best Charlie Brown angst-filled voice........

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111


:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

[Lucian]

53. Jesus Christ...

what is with these religious whackos?

[HCE SuiGeneris]

57. This needs to be front and center in the headlines.

Sarah Palid -- sociopath fundie.

[Brewman_Jax]

59. For the past 2000 years

theo-con brain dead idiots have been praying for the end of days. They've been waiting for Jesus to return since he left. When will they try living THIS life instead of praying for the afterlife?

[SmileyRose]

79. Actually

there's a Bible verse about "fulfilling the measure of your creation" - basically to be all you can be - shine your light on a hill etc - darned if I know the chapter and verse and too lazy after an 80 hr work week to look it up. :)

[Spritz57]

61. What makes this so frightening

What makes this so frightening for me is the uniqueness of the situation. Reagan gave lip-service to the right. The RNC used fliers in the South, as many of you will remember, touting him as "God's Candidate." Toward the end of the Reagan Administration and thereafter the right knew Reagan played them as has been documented in various interviews and articles but they grew up. They matured and fine tuned their approaches. Bush 1 and Bush 2 also used the religious right for political gains. It was only Bush 2 who marginally granted them some greater access and threw them some bones (Church base initiatives, etc.). All three Presidents were not of that religious ilk, they were in the mainstream of American denominations (perhaps with the exception of Reagan who did not attend church but did seek guidance from an astrologist--talk about an under reported story!). Their Vice Presidents were also not as theologically conservative though they portrayed themselves as such. With a 72 year old candidate who is a cancer survivor coupled with an un-vetted extremely theologically conservative activist who is way out of the mainstream, I am greatly concerned (as stated above).

Just a word of advice to my fellow Democrats (for what its worth), let's be careful with the religious banter. There are fundamentalists and those others who believe in the rapture (pre-tribulation, tribulation, and post tribulation), and (dare I say) conservatives who would find Ms. Palin's views extreme. In motorcycle speak, she is a 1%er, that is, for those who are not "in the wind", an extreme case--in other words she would scare a Southern Baptist, believe it or not! Perhaps, exposing her views through research with commentary from those who know this subject well, the information might disillusion many within their ranks. We cannot afford to alienate those who might be reached if we smugly castigate their views--we leave them little choice if we appear condescending toward their beliefs. As I've posted before, just my 2 cents. . . what do you think?

[maxpower]

63. She would probably throw him in jail

He was middle eastern and fits the profile.

[Virginia Dare]

64. And he'll be an Obama supporter no doubt.....n/t

[guitar man]

66. This lady is loco

What does she mean he'll "return to earth" in her lifetime?

Jesus was at my house last week....he brought his cousin Juan with him, they're really nice guys. :D

[Solly Mack]

68. I'm sick of people like her

[Hubert Flottz]

70. Praise the Lord and pass the Kool-aid!

[katty]

71. yea,he'll be back for YOU sarah- to throw yr ass into the pit of fire

[Disturbed]

72. Why didn't Charlie ask her about that?

Hmmmmmmm?

[darkhorse1965]

73. Hey, it's just not logical to believe that all this intricacy in life is random

I believe in BOTH a Higher Intelligence (Creator), as well as science! Since when do the two have to be mutually exclusive? I don't believe in teaching religious doctrine/dogma in public schools because it would infringe on particular beliefs, but I just want to express my confusion that so many progressive seem to scoff at even the idea of something higher than themselves.

[KamaAina]

74. She'd seen "images somewhere" of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them?

And where might that "somewhere" be? The series of tubes known as the Internets? 'Cause we all know that each and every image posted on the tubes is genuine; none are ever, ever altered by means of digital editing tools such as Photoshop. That would be immoral.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[glitch]

75. she then added, "I am certain I won't recognize him, but if I do I'll order the crucifixion asap

at taxpayer's expense of course, you have my 'word' ;). Vote Palin/McCain! Heil USA! USA!"

[bushmeister0]

78. "Bring me Bwian!"

Brian:

You are all individuals!

Crowd:

Yes, we are all individuals!

[anneboleyn]

80. Does anyone remember the SNL Christmas cartoon where Jesus came back and zapped Jerry Falwell

(and other T.V.-type preachers) but he loved the Charlie Brown Christmas special -- it showed the part where Linus is talking. I can't remember what season that was but it was clever.

[Sequoia]

81. Well, she won't get "raptured" then. Only the good Christians get raptured.

[TankLV]

82. Have you been to Vegas lately? - there's more Jeesuseses than chins in a chinese phonebook...

He's not only here - he's MULTIPLYING!!!