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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:04 AM
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100 Mbps Home Broadband Speed at $9.95/Month...Broadband over PowerLine standard (BPL) Rollout
Get ready for a revolution in home internet access that will change forever the balance of power in the high priced and stagnant home broadband internet market. The new Broadband over Powerline standard (BPL) should deal a death blow to the cable and telephone companies monopoly on speedy internet connections when it comes into being later this year.

http://nextenergynews.com/news08-2/next-energy-news9.11.08a.html

GREAT! I can tell my cable co to take a flying leap
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:05 AM
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1. Been waiting for this for many years now
The net neutrality issue will take a completely different tack.

Competition is good.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:46 AM
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14. I'm ready
When I needed a new router I bought an D-link GamerLounge
• 4 x 10/100/1000 Auto-Sensing Gigabit Ethernet LAN Ports
• 1 x 10/100 Auto-Sensing Fast Ethernet WAN Port

...and my home network loves it ;)
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:05 AM
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2. 100 mbps... I want.... I want....
I think I just got a little aroused thinking of it.

(Yes, I'm a geek.)
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:06 AM
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3. Don't hold your breath
This technology has been on the verge of happening for at least 15 years now. I'm not sure what the problem is, but if it were a workable technology we would have seen it by now.
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AdvancedProgress Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:09 AM
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7. True
VoIP took forever to get to market. And who are the biggest players in that industry...Cable and Telephone.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:18 AM
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11. Internet is tariffed as a long distance product for the telephone companies
believe it or not. I also know that because of the fact the phone companies are regulated, that brought into play a lot of lobbying and positioning, threatening and arm twisting to keep this product off the market for the past many years.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:57 AM
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20. Exactly, I first heard about this technology in the 90's
The claims were that you only needed one wire coming into your house, the power cord, and that everything you would need could come through that. About 7 years ago a company actually devised a home networking device that used you power line to connect to other computers. It was slow, unstable, and you can still find them around. Nobody uses it though, you are going to be more likely to find ubiquitous wireless in larger cities.

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:21 AM
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24. RadioShack sold phone jacks that worked through the power lines
You plugged the base unit into a wall outlet and your landline phone jack and a remote unit into another wall outlet elsewhere in the house. Then you plugged your landline phone into the remote unit.

The units filtered out the 120VAC power and transmitted voice between them base and the remote through the intervening power lines.


Neat.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:06 AM
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4. It's about fucking time
I would love to tell my cable company to go fuck itself.
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moriah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:10 AM
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8. I told my cable company that, but that just means I'm ATT's bitch now.
6 mbps down is okay, and at least they aren't total jackasses when it comes to supporting their stuff -- I used to work cable modem tech support and they would never listen to me when I said "Okay, I've bypassed every single splitter, still not getting signal on modem, here are the signal levels, and yes, before I called you I did try my digital box, it doesn't work either there...." and insist on going through every single troubleshooting step...

Bastards.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:08 AM
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5. Amateur Radio users aren't happy about BPL.
Causes too much interference.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:31 AM
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25. One big antenna.
It will probably drive bugging equipment crazy too, so there's a positive side to it.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:08 AM
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6. where? when?
i have known about BPL for years...but it just hasn't seemed to go anywhere and this doesn't really seem to offer much hope...

sP
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:12 AM
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9. buh-bye at&t once and for ALL (at least in my house)
helloooo vonage.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:16 AM
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10. if you regularly chat with anyone in the EU
Lingo has some good plans. we have been very happy with the service...when Comcast keeps the link alive...

sP
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:31 AM
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12. nope, never.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 08:32 AM by QuestionAll
i barely ever use long-distance inside the u.s., either.

probably 99% or more of my calls are local
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 10:47 AM
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19. i don't know what vonage charges...but lingo
has been $24.95 for unlimited local/long distance/EU/Canada... suited us best.

let's hope there is a way for us ALL to drop these annoying pseudo-monopolies!

sP
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:10 AM
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22. I pay Vonage $24.95
Includes US, Mexico, Canada, and land lines in EU. Also includes voice mail, all forwarding, etc, which the cable company charges extra for
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:14 AM
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23. very similar plans... n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 08:44 AM
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13. already have 100 MPBS but its not $10 a month thanks to the cable monopoly here nt
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:08 AM
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15. I finally got broadband a few months ago and I had 2 choices:
the phone company (CenturyTel) or the cable company (Charter) and both want you to bundle. The phone company wants you to hookup to get their tv and the cable company wants you to take their phone service. It would be great to have a choice other than Frick and Frack.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:13 AM
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16. Bring it baby!
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:18 AM
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17. Here's what the
ARRLs (hams) say about it.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 09:29 AM
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18. Static does suck very much
I be layman, but the fiber-optic options looks to me like it has a much more promising future

(besides, they are laying some of that fiber-optic stuff just down the street from me :-) )
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:38 AM
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26. If you have a telco land line you've been subsidizing that fiber optic for years.



They jacked up the rates of land lines and features (Caller ID, Call Fwd, etc) long before the first shovel was put in the ground so that they can pay for all that fiber they're laying down. Anyone who lives out in the country or not in an exclusive neighborhood is paying for it too but they won't see fiber for years and years. They're putting the fiber in neighborhoods where they expect to get the best return on their investment. Areas not too far from the serving office and areas where there are a lot of DSL's will also be among the first to get it in their neighborhoods.



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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:49 AM
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27. I understand the smoke-signal people are upset too
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 11:07 AM
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21. yeah!
time warner wants me to pay MORE for a faster connection when i'm already paying $80/month without television (internet/phone). i refuse to do so. now i can't watch a video if my son's playing counter strike because he whines and whines that i'm making him lag. i want this. will it be everywhere?
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:08 PM
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28. And if implemented with E-line, that's 1Gbps over the wire.
Edited on Thu Sep-11-08 12:19 PM by patriotvoice
Love the microwave frequencies, they are your friend.

On edit: Check out these folks -- they push 3Mbps to rural areas:
http://www.bpl.coop/
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:11 PM
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29. Aren't you essentially just trading one master for another here?
If it's not the evil phone company or the evil cable company or the evil satellite company, it's the evil power company.

Same shit, different name.
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:15 PM
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30. The technology wouldnt be developed by the power companys
But by the networking companies.

While power companys would be deploying it, AND giving telco and cable companys a run for their money, expect to see the technology announced by the big network companies first.

Just as Time warner, AT&T, etc do not develop their own technology, but rather use technology developed by companys like Nortel, Cisco, Juniper etc, this is true here.


Lastly, I'm a bit skeptical, that another monopoly industry joining 2 other monopolys will make a huge difference in the homebroadband market. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

While I really hate my cable and telephone company, I'm not exactly fond of my Power company either.


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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 12:47 PM
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31. This is still a long way from being a reality. The article is misleading
there are many problems facing this. In addition, the power company will have to install repeaters on each transformer out there. For anyone that thinks this will happen any time soon I got a bridge to sell them.

WiMax is a much more promising technology in my opinion.
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hemphammock Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-11-08 01:09 PM
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32. It's an utterly filthy technology. (Meaning it causes a lot of interference)
Also a lot of people aren't too crazy about HV on all those transmission lines...this will just add another layer of electromagnetic radiation from every damn wire.
Not a good thing.
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