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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:20 PM Original message |
How Anti-Intellectualism Is Destroying America |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. No one likes to read -- wake up America!! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Less than 3% of us read books, over 10% of us believe Elvis is still alive. n/t |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
80. Elvis is alive. |
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VoodooGuru (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. Elvis is alive AND he reads books. :P |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. I thought that gas station attendant looked familiar... |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ga. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland: same guy that said Obama was 'uppity' today. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Jesus Christo on a cracker. Can someone toss crap on this guy?? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. actually, worse, he said Obama and Michelle are the kind of people who "think their uppity" |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. Excellent read. Thanks for the catch, Javaman. KnR |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
6. read "The Age of American Unreason" by Susan Jacoby |
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Sophree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
82. Barbarians at the Gate |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. America flourished despite its long tradition of anti-intellectualism... |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Maybe anti-intellectualism, but not anti-education |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. People say that every generation. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I have |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Amazing. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
81. Uh, I hate to point it out, but. . . . . . |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 06:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. With Tansy's permission, I repost her empirical evidence |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. My father is one of those who believe that "common sense" trumps |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. The Common Sense capitol of Colorado is Colorado Springs |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. Being academically qualified is now called "elitism". These people don't |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. There was a thread about this book a few days back, and one or more posters |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. As a European... |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Please don't give up. I very much enjoy hearing the European perspective, and I'm sure I'm not the |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. There are lots of wonderful Americans. It's not *them* I'm tired of, it's the idiots. |
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SpookyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. ouch...Eddie Izzard..."surly no one was alive then!" n/t |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I remember that thread. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Yeah, I saw that thread. |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. good way to put it! |
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SpookyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Here? |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Per Webster's Dictionary "The American Party" |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. True. The GOP is leading the way to Idiocracy. |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. "It's like these guys take pride in being ignorant." |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
91. Many of them are not ignorant |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'll get flamed here |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. No flames from me |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Sources for ... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Are you f'ing kidding me? |
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vanderBeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
62. I recently left an American public HS and I completely agree with those |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Well *I'd* watch "When Porn-Star Midgets Attack during Surgery On Animals Gone Wrong." |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Must agree with you there |
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SpookyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. 1982 or 83, I forget exactly... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
103. Wow! That was double-plus ungood of you! (NT) |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Well, yes and no, IMO. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I'm familiar with the book |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Ha! They changed the title . . . |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Don't drink but I'll share a smoke |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. I've wondered much the same... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
93. I'm starting to feel like Plato following the Peloponnesian War. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. "Willful ignorance"... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. The phrase "all men are created equal" |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Oh, I know the original meaning |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. No flames from me. Good post. |
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tilsammans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. All true |
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SpookyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. This American agrees with you. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Oooh, just my kind of people |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. Dang... |
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SpookyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
78. LOL! Ok...I think we're pretty safe in SF... |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
77. That pretty much sums it up |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
85. It was intended to mean legally equal |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
90. I couldn't agree more. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
108. All men and women are created equal - stupid.... |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
28. Pathetic |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
30. I am not very familiar with Leo Strauss, but from what I've heard... |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. Devo was right along. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. Welcome to DU! |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. I didn't realize how much I didn't know about the world until I moved overseas |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Well said! "stuck on STUPID and applauding it!" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
37. Ah another elitist that has a problem with American Exceptionalism |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. That same attitude is what led to the decline of China |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
49. Ignorance was one of the best weapons against communism |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. K & R for reading when I get home. n/t |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
54. There is definitely something to that. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-04-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. I wouldn't put it all on the right though they are the primary ones. |
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asteroid2003QQ47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
59. A conundrum, Anti-Intellectualism is no more destroying America than... |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
60. Intimidated by learned people, they hide behind the Bible. |
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Hidden Stillness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
61. This Problem is not Even Slightly New |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
86. There are the usual asshole-atheist anti-Christian attacks |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
63. Excellent thread! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
64. K & R. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I really don't think it's simply the televisions anymore... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. It is the first step. Halt the process of indoctrination and the rest follows. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I'm afraid I simply can't see the difference |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Oh no, I don't disagree that they are a great time-waster at all, |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I think TV is a symptom, not a cause. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. TV is not the sole cause and that is addressed in the article, but it is the |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. On further reflection... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. Stop watching TV entirely for a while and I suspect your opinion might change.. |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
105. I have to agree |
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BuelahWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
68. "Reading is over-rated" according to my 18 year old co-worker |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
102. reminds me of the line in the movie Cruel Intentions |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
69. It's not just America....it's human beings as a whole. |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
73. It's the corporatization of America that's doing it. |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-05-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
79. Many who post on DU are not exactly geniuses |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Exhibition A |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Such as... |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Uhmm. I guess you have never been around a major fire. |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-07-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Yeah, and a couple hundred NYC firefighters didn't know what a fire sounds like either... |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Since physicists don't know what so-called "dark matter" is |
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warren pease (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. No... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. Ummm.... *all* theories about 9/11/2001 are "conspiracy theories" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #79 |
109. I would argue... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-06-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
95. ask your righty friends if they would go to a mechanic or doctor who only knew as much about... |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
99. "anti-intellectualism" is too soft - anti thought, anti science, |
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babydollhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
100. "Look at Miss Smartie McSmartie pants" |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 05:25 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. Yick. |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
101. it is why people embrace guns and religion |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
104. We are entering the Age of Ignorance. Obama is not the first to say it-- |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
107. Stupid people LOVE being stupid more than anything else in the world... |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Can the internet help? We all now have a library in the spare bedroom |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-08-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Nah - the internet can only ampilify what's already there... The game's basically over... |
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