sarah palin believes these are the end times, should that concern the average American?

[Philosoraptor]

mrs. palin, who could literally and easily end up as our president, is one of those Christian zealots who believes that these are the end times. End timers pray for the end of the world and the return of their 2000 year dead savior, they pray for the 'final battle' Armageddon, they believe prophecy that says the Jews will convert to Christianity, wars will break out all over the world, mrs. palin believes she and those who believe as she does will be sucked up into the air on judgment day and Raptured, leaving us non believers and unlucky sons of bitches to all die miserably and go to hell and suffer in a lake of fire forever.

Should we be concerned about people like mrs. palin with their itchy fingers on 'the button'?

I sure do have a vivid and paranoid imagination don't I?

[lynnertic]

1. wasit yesterday or tuesday when you said she was the antichrist?

Would you care to explain how you came to that conclusion?

[Philosoraptor]

3. I read DU, that's how I came to this conclusion.

I read about all the far right zealot phony Christian groups she's friendly with, I got her number.

[Ghost in the Machine]

19. Naw dude, her number is only 665

Sarah(6) Louise(6) (Heath(5)) Palin(5)

She's just a step below the anti-christ.... she's anti-christ light

:hi:

[L0oniX]

2. Hopefully it is the end times for her.

[tularetom]

4. We'll all see her nekkid when she gets hoovered up to heaven

Of course it seems that a number of people have already had that experience (seeing her nekkid that is).

[tannybogus]

5. GWB believes that too.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/8/15/12348/4792

Dick Armey Denies Bush Administration Trying To Provoke "End Times"
Richard Bartholomew, at Bartholomew's Notes On Religion, highlights a BBC interview with Dick Armey in which Armey states that both he and George W. Bush believe in the "Tribulation" and the "End Times" but are not trying to make those happen :

I think the most important question that you ask is: `are people in the United States, particularly people in positions of authority and responsibility - are they trying to make the End Times happen? Are they forcing the issue?' And those then become in my estimation the very dangerous people that we must look out for. And I don't believe that any people in office in a position of responsibility and authority in the United States today is trying to force these circumstances predicted in the Bible to come to pass.


Bush didn't just decide this yesterday. It has been part of his philosophy for a long time.

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. It's been part of Karl Rove's philosophy in order to garner votes for his party.

bu$h just went along with it.

[KharmaTrain]

6. Her Church Tapes Are Scary

Progressive Alaska... www.progressivealaska.com has a link to some of them the RNC is trying to hide, but looks like it was moved to a Korean website.

This lady is soon gonna have a Reverend Wright problem of her own.

When the story gets out about her pastor's anti-semetic statements and that she's pandered to Jews For Jesus, watch the polls in Florida swing out in our favor.

[MoeHayNow]

7. You mean the end times are still coming?

Damn.
I thought the last eight years have proven that we are living through them.
Now I'm really worried.

[Annces]

8. Lady MacBeth

Someone else compared her to Lady MacBeth, and I think they could be right. She seems completely power hungry.



""After her husband, Macbeth of Scotland, told her in a letter about his opportunity to become king, she tells herself that his temperament is "too full o' the milk of human kindness" (Act 1, Scene 5) for the necessary evil to kill the existing monarch, King Duncan, and so make this possible. In her eagerness, she calls for dark forces to "unsex" her and fill her with "direst cruelty." On his return, Macbeth defers deciding on the matter, but when the king has arrived, she ends his moral dilemma by manipulating him with clever arguments into committing the assassination. While Macbeth initially balks at the bloody tasks she insists that they are necessary to seize the throne; she wants him to leave everything to her and pull himself together, shocks him and questions his masculinity.""

[Philosoraptor]

9. ............

[JBoris]

10. Don't fall into the trap of culture wars, fight her on the issues...

yes she is an insane fundie, but don't give them fuel for their war of personalities and culture. One can fight her on the insane stances that she has as a result of her nutty beliefs, w/o mentioning god or christianity

[On the Road]

11. Having Been an Evangelical and Pentecostal at One Point

I am MUCH more concerned about Palin than any other national candidate I can think of. If she becomes president, God help us.

[bdamomma]

15. I am concerned too, these people literally take what is said

in the Bible as God's Will. Scary.

[On the Road]

17. That in Itself Doesn't Bother Me in the Least

More people than you may realize have some version of the inerrancy of the Bible. Those with enough judgment and experience are able to integrate that into their view of the world to the point where you might not even notice in everyday life.

I don't get the idea that Palin has the breadth of experience that would allow her to mix faith and good governance like that. If you've been stuck above the 50th parallel your whole life, the larger world is like a big cartoon, or a tabula rasa onto which you can project your preconceptions. If she disregards DC insiders and creates a circle of likeminded people around her, she can get into some very dangerous territory. There would be no one to check her like the Bush Sr gang has done under the current administration.

As a Pentecostal, Palin probably adheres to the dispensationalist interpretation of the Bible. Dispensationalism, including the Rapture, tribulation, etc, did not exist until the 18th century. IMO it's kind of a Rube Goldberg machine of different passages pasted together that don't always belong together. Calvinists have just as strong a view of the Bible as the word of God, but believe (1) that Jesus will return only after the world has become Christian through the growth of the church, or (2) at some miscellaneous point that no one knows. People like Palin are likely to believe that dispensationalism is the only way to interpret the Bible, and moreover are likely to pile a lot of unsubstantiated beliefs on top of that. That is unnerving.

[Fumesucker]

26. I think you misunderstand them...

They don't take what is written in the Bible as the will of God, they take what they want to happen and then find a way to interpret the Bible in such a way that it says what they want it to say.

Which is what I think most religious people do, take the scripture of their particular faith and then find particular portions that align with the way they already see the world.

Nice kind gentle people will find nice kind gentle scripture.

Angry vengeful hurtful people will find angry vengeful hurtful scripture.

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. Um, YEAH! It sure as heck concerns me!

[SammyWinstonJack]

13. Are Americans (some not all) the only ones who believe in this end times crappola?

If so, the rest of the World should be very concerned with selection of Palin as VP nominee/possible future President of the U.S.

[a la izquierda]

20. They are and it has nothing to do with religion.

Talked to some folks last night about it. More to do with the idiocies of the reich wing dragging down the rest of the planet than religion. Though most Europeans I talked to can't quite rap their heads around the whole evangelization of America idea.

[SammyWinstonJack]

24. I can't wrap my head around it , so they aren't alone. I am betting most Americans can't

either.

[Philosoraptor]

16. .............

[Pastiche423]

18. Yesterday I watched the video of her speaking at her church

during which, I began to have a panic attack. I am ready to donate to whom ever will make a campaign video using clips from that crazy ass speech.

:scared:

[MilesColtrane]

21. Let me answer that as succinctly as possible.

Fuck yes.

Anyone who believes that the final battle on Earth must be waged should not be given the means to start it.

[corkhead]

22. It's not her belief that concerns me...

What does concern me is that if she were elected, she would be in a position to make it a self fulfilling prophecy

[Prophet 451]

23. Yes, it bloody should!

The belief, in and of itself, isn't the problem. The problem is that for years now, fundies have interpreted that belief to mean they don't have to try fixing things now and a certain number of them are all too anxious to nudge the process along.

[Philosoraptor]

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