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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:23 PM
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I'm not pro-choice
I'm pro- legal abortion. For me, the whole choice thing does not come into the equation. Abortion should and must remain legal so that it's safety as a medical procedure is preserved. Abortion is just a medical procedure. Today on campus at KU, there was an anti-abortion fundie display, complete with grotesque pics and propaganda. I talked to one of the students there, and she was clueless. She didn't know that the US leads the civilized world in unwanted pregnancies. But yet she was virulently anti- sex. I asked her if she'd ever had sex, and she told me it was none of my business. Hypocritical, eh? I then asked her if she knew the pregnant woman mortality rates in undeveloped countries. No clue. I asked her if making abortion illegal would stop them. She didn't know. I asked her she knew the dangers of back alley abortions. She didn't. I finally asked her, looking past personal objections, if a medical procedure should be performed in a sterile exam room or a septic alley. She conceded the exam room.

We need to make this debate about providing a safe and legal medical procedure, and reducing pregancies through education prpgrams that work. Abstinence fails in evangelical families. It fails everywhere. You cannot stop sex, you can only provide options to most minimize risks when human nature takes it's course.

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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:26 PM
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1. K & R
A good message that needs to be repeated over and over and over.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:31 PM
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2. Huh? Sounds like you are pro-choice to me.
The "other side" is anti-choice. Whether or not a woman chooses an abortion should be entirely her decision. I know we're saying the same thing, I just hate it when the issue is framed in a "pro-abortion" context. No one is "pro-abortion". I do understand what you are saying, though.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:38 PM
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3. I know what you're saying but
I don't look at the issue from a social or personal rights standpoint. I look at it from a pragmatic, scientific standpoint. I don't like that women get abortions, but once that decision is made, a safe procedure must be available. The only good way to reduce abortion, legal or otherwise, is by reducing unwanted pregnancies through adequate education and protection. I'd like to add that anybody's decision to have an abortion is none of my business.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:55 PM
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4. There is legal abortion in China, but it's often against the will of the woman
Is that what you want?
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:00 PM
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5. Sounds great
Mr reductio ad absurdam.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 06:00 PM
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6. Sounds great
Mr reductio ad absurdam.
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