POOTIE-POOT out of control? Blame Bush, Pre-Emptive War Doctrine, and by extension, McBush!

[FrenchieCat]

Is Putin Following The McCain/Bush Doctrine?

The irony in the conflict involving Georgia and Russia is that it looks eerily similar to the US's invasion of Iraq. Indeed, Russia may have a better argument because Georgia launced the initial attack, and now Russia is responding by trying to broaden the war and possibly grab more territory. Why? Oil. Also, was Russia's retaliation surprising? No, as the attached 2006 article shows:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6619295

Saturday, 16 June, 2001
Bush and Putin: Best of friends
They say they found the basis for a relationship of mutual respect.

At the end of their first summit meeting in Slovenia Mr Bush described Mr Putin as a straightforward and trustworthy man.

The Russian leader said he regarded the US as a partner.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1392791.stm

"I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul"
George W Bush

Thursday, 23 May, 2002
Analysis: Bush and Putin on nickname terms

George W Bush likes to give people nicknames. It is nice for those who receive them - especially journalists and politicians, as it gives them the sense that they are on the inside track.
Those who do not get them, dismiss them as a sign that parts of Dubya - his name for himself - never really grew up.

Mr Bush has given Vladimir Putin, the steely-faced son of the KGB and now President of Russia, a nickname. It is Pootie-Poot.

It is not known if Pootie-Poot will respond with his own offering.

Improbable relationship

But all this indicates that relations between Mr Bush and Mr Putin are good. And it has been growing for some time. Remember last June, when Mr Bush surprised the world by declaring after a meeting with Mr Putin in Slovenia: "I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2000197.stm

Pootie-Poot and Bush

Putin to Bush: Do not attack Iraq alone

Nov 23, 2002
PUSHKIN, Russia (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin told President Bush on Friday the United States should not wage war alone against Iraq, and he put Bush on the spot by questioning whether White House allies like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are doing enough to fight terrorism.

"Where has Osama bin Laden taken refuge?" the Russian said in a joint news conference with Bush at an 18th century czarist castle.

The sharply worded question, though not a direct criticism of Bush, touched a nerve with the U.S. delegation and underscored the frustration felt by U.S. officials since the al-Qaida leader resurfaced after months of silence in an audiotape praising recent terrorist attacks.

In Washington, Democratic leaders have accused Bush of focusing on Iraq at the expense of the broader war on terrorism. Some have suggested the White House fueled a conflict with Iraq to take command of the agenda for midterm elections, which resulted in big GOP gains.

Meeting with Putin beneath the golden domes of Catherine Palace, Bush cited the recent arrest of al-Qaida's Persian Gulf operations chief, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, as evidence of the U.S.-led coalition's success.

"People who love freedom are one person safer as a result of us finding this guy," the president said. "We did bring to justice a killer."

But Putin, while issuing a statement in support of Bush's Iraq policy, followed quickly with severe doubts about the war on terrorism. It was not clear whether he was putting more weight on the fight against terrorists than the Iraq conflict, but that implication could be drawn. http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-14777.html

Posted 3/24/2003
Bush tells Putin sales must stop
By Richard Benedetto, USA TODAY

Relations between Russia and the United States, already strained over sharp differences on the war with Iraq, have grown tenser over the sale of military equipment to Iraq by Russian companies.
President Bush phoned Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday to demand that the sales stop, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said. Putin said he would look into the matter, Fleischer said.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said Monday that after months of monitoring sales to Iraq, the United States had received information in the preceding 48 hours about Russian companies selling "the kind of equipment that will put our men and women in harm's way."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-24-russia-denies-selling-weapons-iraq_x.htm

putin urges voters to back Bush

By CNN Moscow Bureau Chief Jill Dougherty
Monday, October 18, 2004 Posted: 1108 GMT (1908 HKT)

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin says terrorist attacks in Iraq are aimed at preventing the re-election of U.S. President George W. Bush and that a Bush defeat "could lead to the spread of terrorism to other parts of the world."

Putin, speaking Central Asian Cooperation Organization summit in Tajikistan Monday, made his most overt comments of support so far for the re-election of Bush for a second term.

"Any unbiased observer understands that attacks of international terrorist organizations in Iraq, especially nowadays, are targeted not only and not so much against the international coalition as against President Bush," Putin said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/10/18/putin.iraq/index.html

Putin, Bush at His Side, Celebrates War's End and New Russian Pride

Published: May 10, 2005
MOSCOW, May 9 - President Vladimir V. Putin, joined by President Bush and dozens of other leaders, commemorated the 60th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany on Monday with a resplendent military parade in Red Square that was steeped in Soviet symbols and new Russian pride.

Mr. Putin expressed no contrition for the Soviet domination of Eastern and Central Europe that followed the end of World War II, as some leaders from that region had hoped he would. Instead, he said the war's legacy demonstrated the need for unity with Russia against new threats.

"The lessons of the war send us the warning that indifference, temporizing and playing accomplice to violence inevitably lead to terrible tragedies on a planetary scale," he said. "Faced with the real threat of terrorism today, we must therefore remain faithful to the memory of our fathers. It is our duty to defend a world order based on security and justice and on a new culture of relations among nations that will not allow a repeat of any war - neither cold nor hot."

Despite concerns here and abroad about Russia's commitment to democracy, Mr. Putin assembled one of the largest gatherings of world leaders in years - part of the Kremlin's efforts to resurrect a sense of a great and powerful Russia.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/10/international/europe/10russia.html

Jul 15th, 2006
Putin Jabs Bush: ‘We Certainly Would Not Want…The Same Kind of Democracy As They Have in Iraq’»

During a press conference today at the G8 summit in Russia, President Bush told President Vladimir Putin that Americans want Russia to develop a free press and free religion “like Iraq.” To laughter and applause, Putin responded: “We certainly would not want to have same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, quite honestly.” CNN’s Ed Henry called it a “tough jab.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/15/putin-jab/

Putin Surprises Bush With Plan on Missile Shield

Published: June 8, 2007

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/08/world/europe/08prexy.html

July 1, 2007
Bush to Urge Putin to Aid in Pressuring Iran
By JIM RUTENBERG and DAVID E. SANGER
KENNEBUNKPORT, Me., June 30 — President Bush, seeking to change the tone of an increasingly caustic, fraught relationship with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, will urge him on Sunday to support a major escalation of pressure on Iran, administration officials said.

On Friday, just 48 hours before Mr. Putin was to arrive at the Bush family compound on the edge of this historic seaside town swelled with summer residents, the administration discussed for the first time with Russia and other members of the United Nations Security Council a proposal to require all nations to inspect cargo to or from Iran for illicit nuclear-related material or arms.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/us/01putin.html?pagewanted=print

Putin Visits Iran, Warns US Against Attack

10/16/07
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/10/16/putin-visits-iran-warns-_n_68609.html

Bush warns Putin over 'World War Three'
Last Updated: 1:56AM BST 18 Oct 2007

President George W Bush today warned that world leaders risk helping bring about "World War Three" unless they do more to prevent Iran developing nuclear weapons.

David Blair: No warmth or trust behind the handshake
Leader: Vladimir Putin in Teheran
In remarks timed to coincide with Russian president Vladimir Putin's visit to Teheran, Mr Bush said the Islamic republic must remain isolated until it drops its nuclear ambitions.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1566504/Bush-warns-Putin-over-'World-War-Three'.html

Vladimir Putin chosen as Person of the Year 2007 by Time Magazine
His final year as Russia's President has been his most successful yet. At home, he secured his political future. Abroad, he expanded his outsize—if not always benign—influence on global affairs



President Bush gave an end of the year press conference today. Amid questions about congressional spending, the CIA tape investigation and the Iraq war, Bush was asked what he thought about TIME magazine's choice to name Russian President Vladimir Putin as its Person of the Year.

Bush responded, "You know I'm looking forward to seeing him at the alumni meeting of the men of the year...or the Persons of The Year. I don't know when it's going to be, but... " Bush was TIME's Person of The Year in 2000 and 2004.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/20/bush-im-looking-forward_n_77669.html

AND SO, NOW WHAT?

Bush won't sway Putin on Georgia

August 11, 2008
The limits of the U.S.'s ability to influence the course of international events are particularly on display right now as Russian leaders ignore U.S. demands to end their use of military force against the Georgians.

President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have demanded that Russia stop its military actions in Georgia, a strong U.S. ally, including its bombings, outside the disputed area of South Ossetia.
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/bush_wont_sway_putin_on_georgi.html

[lonestarnot]

1. Birds of a feather freaks.

[AuntPatsy]

5. to a degree, but perhaps the only real similarity is greed and a need

for power, i believe putin does possess more intelligence which in a sense makes him more dangerous in the end, bush though known for temper tantrums is secretly despised by those closest to him in political circles, its more than obvious that though he might believe otherwise that he himself though president has no true control

[MadMaddie]

2. The * Adminstration has ensured that the US has absolutely no

leverage in World Affairs. Putin is mocking the US and * dumbass is stupid enough to think that what he says matters.

[FrenchieCat]

6. And McCain thinks that doing Cowboy type speeches will help him

and the corporate media are lapping it up, just like they did everything else.....a la Bush!

[nc4bo]

8. Sure he does, it worked so well for Big Brother. Besides,

the bully role fits right in with McLoon's temperament. They probably had to wipe the dang drool of anticipation from his lips just before his press conference.

[opihimoimoi]

3. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? The Ruskies are laughing their asses off re Bushies "DEMANDS"

"Whacha gonna do Bushy Mon? Whacha gonna do?"

"lemme tell you"

Nada, nothing, zero....ya ain't go no money, no army, no power, no shit...stuck on STUPID and BOLTED IN."

[FrenchieCat]

4. Yep. Bush was set up, and by suit, so were we.

Out of the two, Putin and Bush, one is an imbecile and the other knows it.

[opihimoimoi]

7. The Diff is Night and Day....Bush has the Cheers Mentality...he is a BULLY in a BAR

All this guy did to get there to the Oval was Pretend....Faked his way in he did

He don know shit...canardly pound in a #6 nail with a hammer....gurly mon....

Putin was head of the KGB...and ya don get there by being an actor.....

Bush is fucked....exposed as the impotent ass that he is for the World to see....an he don't even know it...pity.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

12. I am sensing that your esteem for ChimpBoy is waning?

:P

[opihimoimoi]

13. LOL.....yup....never had respect for the dude....

[ben_meyers]

9. No kidding! Russia was always been a peace loving country

until Bush came along. Well except for Georgia in 1921, and maybe Czechoslovakia in the 50's and then there was Poland, but other than that they have just been pussycats.

[Dreamer Tatum]

11. There was also that picnic excursion into Afghanistan in 1979

...which we did not shit about.

[alfredo]

10. the neo cons wanted Russia to become a free market dictatorship,

just like Chile, and others in South America. So the should just shut the fuck up and deal with the shit storm they've created.