Neocons Call For U.S. To Launch War With Russia

[marmar]

from ThinkProgress:



Neocons Call For U.S. To Launch War With Russia»

Today the New York Times reports that Russia is escalating its war with Georgia, “moving tanks and troops through the separatist enclave of South Ossetia and advancing toward the city of Gori in central Georgia” and even bombing parts of Tibilisi, the Georgian captial.

Russia’s increasing aggression is putting a spark into American neoconservatives. Today on the Times op-ed page, one of their leaders, William Kristol, claims the U.S. must “defend” Georgia’s sovereignty as a reward for its participation in Iraq, while the conservative Washington Times is calling for “maximum pressure” on Russia:

Bill Kristol: (Georgia) has had the third-largest military presence — about 2,000 troops — fighting along with U.S. soldiers and marines in Iraq. For this reason alone, we owe Georgia a serious effort to defend its sovereignty. Surely we cannot simply stand by as an autocratic aggressor gobbles up part of — and perhaps destabilizes all of — a friendly democratic nation.

Washington Times: It is in America’s interest to exert maximum pressure on Russia to withdraw its troops and halt the interference in Georgian territory. This latest act shows the need for greater resolve in establishing a European security system that can be an effective check on Russian power

Writing in the Washington Post today, Robert Kagan goes even further, suggesting that the Georgia-Russia conflict may be the start of World War III:

Do you recall the precise details of the Sudeten Crisis that led to Nazi Germany’s invasion of Czechoslovakia? Of course not, because that morally ambiguous dispute is rightly remembered as a minor part of a much bigger drama. (…)

The mood is reminiscent of Germany after World War I, when Germans complained about the “shameful Versailles diktat” imposed on a prostrate Germany by the victorious powers and about the corrupt politicians who stabbed the nation in the back.

Like a good neoconservative, Kagan also links the Western response to the conflict and its wider policy towards Russia as “appeasement.”

Matthew Yglesias asks of Kagan’s World War II analogy: “If we launch a war with Russia — which would seem to be the point of busting out the analogy — then how are we going to find the time to launch wars with Iran and China?”


http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/11/neocon-russia-war/

[steve2470]

1. May the neocons burn in Hell, if there is one nt

[liberalmuse]

2. I call for packing all the neocons in a missile, and launching them towards Russia.

This is what happens when you have a big ego paired with a tiny dick. I am so sick of these saber rattling shitheads.

[Golden Raisin]

15. And their draft-age children.

Right to the front lines whether it's Iraq, Afghanistan or Georgia.

[jazzjunkysue]

32. Put the bill in their grandchildren's names.

[Junkdrawer]

3. Read this..Nuclear threats already surround the Georgian invasion...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3775515&mesg_id=3775515

[nc4bo]

4. The neocons usually get what they want with the present administration.

[lala_rawraw]

5. the irony is that they caused this

they don't get it

[C_U_L8R]

6. "Remember the Maine !!"

these clowns are so out of step with the times they should be called Neandercons

[sinkingfeeling]

7. Then the Neocons had better fall in and pick up their weapons before they go. Who else have we got

to fight a war with Russia?

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. No, no, no, no, no, NO!

Jeeze, you guys! The end of the world is scheduled for 2012!

You're jumping the gun!

[Bobbie Jo]

30. Oh Mama Mia, Mama Mia....

Mama Mia let me go....:headbang:


Sorry...song in my head, etc.

[SurfingAtWork]

9. I'd be concerned about going to war with Russia, if we actually had troops free to go fight it

We're a bit tapped out at the moment however. We could possibly arm Georgia as part of a proxy war, however I think that Russia would probably respond in kind in our respective theaters of war. It seems that for the moment they have us in a bit of a checkmate position, and the best response we're able to muster is letting them know how mad we are about this. If we're lucky we may be able to talk the UN into issuing "strongly worded statement".

[SpiralHawk]

10. "War, war, war. And profits!" - Republicon neocon Chickenhawks

"We will gladly send YOU and YOUR CHILDREN off to die for our honor, glory and - kaching - our profits. Sneer, smirk."

- Republicon Chickenhawks

[jimshoes]

11. When the war crimes trials start

make sure this dickhead Kristol is right near the front of the line.

[Subdivisions]

12. Since all we're doing is sitting idly by and doing nothing to stop them,

they'll get away with it as always.

[bahrbearian]

13. "It'll be a cake walk, we'll be greeted a liberators"

Their oil will pay for it, they have WMD, they attack their neighbors....

[nc4bo]

14. I'm waiting for them to roll the tape....just wipe off the fingerprints

and a speck of dust and they're ready to go.

Sick.

[msanthrope]

16. Will the women throw flowers at the troops, too??? n/t

[daleo]

20. "Our ancestors will sing songs about us" n/t

[DeadElephant_ORG]

17. You can never have too much war. It's just such good fun! n/t

[Romulox]

18. Remember that new super-power that announced itself on 8-8? Their turn to play cop. nt

[Dogtown]

23. Best response yet, Romulox!

They weren't trying to entertain us with that display!

:patriot:

[seemslikeadream]

19. ALL YOU HAVE TO KNOW

REBUILDING AMERICA'S DEFENSES



http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

28. Kagan cracks me up. He's advancing global fascist tactics while lecturing about nazism.

What a CAD!!!!

:puke:

[screembloodymurder]

21. Let them volunteer.

Join the Army or STFU.

[TheWraith]

22. Holy mother of fuck.

I always knew the neocons were crazy bastards, but advocating unnecessary war with a country which can actually shoot back? And with nukes?

[AwakeAtLast]

24. But it's not October yet...

:eyes:

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

25. Gawd they are such a predictable lot of pricks!!!

:grr:

Every one of those *&$K&$(%&^ should have their butts thrown behind bars as conspirators in war crimes!!

[Liberal In Texas]

26. Bill Kristol has NEVER been right on ANYTHING.

I don't know why anybody listens to him.

[SidneyCarton]

27. If Mr. Kristol feels so strongly about this...

He should feel free to go to Georgia and volunteer to fight. I'm sure the Georgian Army would be more than happy to give him a rifle.

[AuntPatsy]

29. It really isn't far fetched to believe this is just what they needed to ensure their desire

for oil and or armegeddon.....

[lurky]

31. Russia had 6,881 active nuclear warhead at last count.

Maybe William Kristol doesn't understand the significance of this. Somebody should explain it to him. Slowly. Using small words.