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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:06 PM
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Message from the ACLU. Please keep kicked.
Dear ACLU Supporter,

Planning a vacation? Thinking about traveling outside the country?

If you travel outside the United States, you can kiss your right to privacy, and perhaps your laptop, digital camera and cell phone, goodbye.

With no suspicion and no explanation, the U.S. government can seize your laptop, cell phone, or PDA as you enter the United States and download all your private information -- including your personal and business documents, emails, phone calls, and web history. The Department of Homeland Security confirms that this is the official policy.

Tell Congress: it’s time to rein in travel abuses by the Department of Homeland Security.

What happens if you refuse to let the agents download your personal photos? Or if you have encrypted your private information? Then Border Patrol -- which is now an agency of the Department of Homeland Security -- can simply copy your entire hard drive or even take your device and hang on to it indefinitely.

Unfortunately, seizing laptops and cameras at the border isn’t the only travel security measure that infringes on our civil liberties.

Just last month, the U.S. government's "terrorist watch list" surpassed one million names and is growing by over twenty-thousand names per month. The watch list includes the names of prominent people, like Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA), plus hundreds of thousands of ordinary Americans -- many of them with common names like Robert Johnson and James Robinson. Your name might be on the list, but there's no way to know for sure until you are delayed -- or even detained for hours in a back room. If you discover your name is on the list, it's nearly impossible to get off. It actually took an Act of Congress to get Nelson Mandela off the list. No joke. An Act of Congress.

These abuses have something in common: They make all of us into suspects, with no rule of law and no accountability.

Tell Congress: it’s time to rein in travel abuses by the Department of Homeland Security.

It’s hard to know what surveillance-state bureaucrats will come up with next. For instance, many airports are using scanners that are so invasive that they are like a virtual strip search! See-through body scanning machines are capable of showing an image of a passenger's naked body. Security measures like this are extremely intrusive -- and should only be used when there is good cause to suspect that an individual is a security risk.

And recently, the TSA expressed interest in having every traveler wear an "electro-muscular disruption" bracelet that airline personnel or marshals could use to shock passengers into submission. Unless something is done, this plan may not be as far-fetched as one would think.

Tell Congress: it’s time to rein in travel abuses by the Department of Homeland Security.

Traveling shouldn’t mean checking your rights when you’re checking your luggage. It’s time for some sanity when it comes to security. Please, speak out now.


Caroline Fredrickson, Director
ACLU Washington Legislative Office

P.S. Many Americans don’t know about these travel abuses. Please forward this email on to anyone you know who travels and ask them to take action, too.

© ACLU, 125 Broad Street, 18th Floor New York, NY 10004

https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocacy?pagename=homepage&id=1009&page=UserAction
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:12 PM
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1. ZombyKick
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:13 PM
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2. Kick...nt
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:17 PM
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3. Oooh... Shock bracelets. What color can I get?
:wtf:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:24 PM
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4. K&R nt
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:25 PM
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5. This is America? "with no rule of law and no accountability."
And ol' Whistle Ass* has the gall to say "they hate us for our freedoms", I call bullshit.

Shame on you Whistle Ass and your gun-shootin' pal in the office down the hall - you two do not love your country. You both are bad Americans.

You hate us for our freedoms.



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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:14 AM
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6. k&r nt
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 03:51 AM by tiptoe
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:20 AM
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7. Private kick. n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:29 AM
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8. yep. isn't that something? unfuckingreal. n/t
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 05:50 AM
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9. Scary!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:17 AM
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10. knr
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:36 PM
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11. The stupid thing about this policy....
Is that you can ship any of these electronic items via FedEx anywhere in the world with no problem.

So, say I'm trying to smuggle some secret data into the States from Hong Kong. I place it on a hard drive with a box of other crap and send it to the U.S. via FedEx.

I fly to U.S. with no devices, get through customs no problem.

How did they stop me?

That doesn't even include me downloading the encrypted secret data via VPNs over the internet.

This policy is simply about the state having the authority to rough up political enemies when ever they want.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 05:33 PM
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17. That's exactly how I see it...
"This policy is simply about the state having the authority to rough up political enemies when ever they want."

Likewise, torture has nothing to do with extracting information from people. Such "information" is useless, as everyone has known since the days of the Spanish Inquisition.

Torture is all about intimidating the hell out of any would-be dissident who is thinking about getting in your way.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 05:36 PM
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18. Rough up political enemies and control every tiny piece of information
If they get their hands on the internet there will never be any real way to stop them. You think China has a death grip on information? If we let them keep this up IT'S COMPLETELY FUCKING OVER for American Democracy.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:20 PM
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21. Sounds interesting....
Can our side do all that when we are back in power?
Tempting.... mighty tempting.

I don't get it though, Repukliens usually close the abusive loopholes just before
hastily leaving town (pursued by the howling mob), so the same exploits cant be used
against THEM. But this time it doesn't seem to have worked out that way.

But how nice of the morons to make doing this stuff to THEM so easy, not to
mention "patriotic" (flag waves).
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:39 PM
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22. I think that what they've done this time around is so hideous they know that
non-sociopaths wouldn't go that route. Sociopaths can generally understand what sane people think and feel, they just can't internalize it themselves.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:42 PM
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12. Sure, I'll give it a kick
Anything to help fight fascism.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:46 PM
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13. But, but we don't live in a police state, not at all
What will it take for people to wake up
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:47 PM
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14. They've had the authority to strip-search you for years, too.
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Sezu Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 03:53 PM
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15. Boo fucking hoo
get back to me when I can afford to fly AND feed my family while owning a laptop, cell phone and a digital camera.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 05:49 PM
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19. Some history is in order
usually these abuses in police states START at border checkpoints, whether land, sea or air is immaterial

Will you care when they can violate your rights willy nilly at the street corner?

I know, if it cannot and will not affect me why give a rat's ass?


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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:40 PM
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23. Yes who needs freedoms? You weren't using your rights anyways right. nt
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 05:18 PM
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16. Kick
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 06:14 PM
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20. Kick..nt
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Tindalos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:01 PM
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24. Kick
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