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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:09 AM
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Russian troops raid Georgian town; scores dead
GORI, Georgia - Russia sent hundreds of tanks and troops into the separatist province of South Ossetia and bombed Georgian towns Saturday in a major escalation of the conflict that has left scores of civilians dead and wounded.
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Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched a major offensive Friday to retake control of breakaway South Ossetia. Russia, which has close ties to the province and posts peacekeepers there, responded by sending in armed convoys and military combat aircraft.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told reporters in Moscow that some 1,500 people have been killed, with the death toll rising Saturday.

The figure could not be independently confirmed, but witnesses who fled the fighting said hundreds of civilians had probably died. They said most of the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, was in ruins, with bodies lying everywhere.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080809/ap_on_re_eu/georgia_south_ossetia;_ylt=AhDVskud6GIeIp4595ObeNp34T0D
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:17 AM
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1. Fuck that
Let's watch the Olympics.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:32 AM
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2. Even more newsworthy, Edwards had an affair!
Maybe I should have made that my headline...I probably would get more replies that way.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:49 AM
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4. Maddening, isn't it?
The sheep are all off in the far corner of the pasture.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:46 AM
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3. "A staunch US ally"
Like that means shit anymore. Georgia will burn.
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:58 AM
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5. Shouldn't this read: Russian troops defending Ossetian town from Georgia?
I'm not well versed on the scenario but it seems from what I've read that the Russians are trying to protect them.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:02 AM
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7. Gori is part of Georgia, not Ossetia.
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 09:05 AM by Bright Eyes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7550804.stm

"Russian jets have carried out strikes on military targets in the central Georgian town of Gori, close to the breakaway region of South Ossetia."

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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:09 AM
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9. I stand corrected. Thank you. Is the attack on Gori retaliation?
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:30 AM
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15. I'm sure the Russians and South Ossetians consider it retaliation for Tskhinvali
According to Wikipedia, the capitol of South Ossetia was "70% of it was captured by Georgian army and destroyed, then the ruins were taken back by the Ossetians."

Of course, shelling was done by both sides on Tskhinvali.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:16 AM
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13. Birthplace of Stalin n/t
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:07 AM
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8. The Georgians started this flare up
but I have no doubt that the Putinist's will use this opportunity to leverage their control over energy transit routes through the region.

They now have their 'Saddam' with 'WMDs'.

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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:02 AM
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6. Kurds claim they blew the BTC pipeline pump station
Kurds? Maybe. No such thing as coincidence.

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Kurdish rebels say they sabotaged Turkey pipeline

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/07/europe/EU-Turkey-Pipeline-Fire.php

Kurdish separatist rebels claimed responsibility Thursday for sabotaging a critical Turkish pipeline, helping push global oil prices back above US$120 per barrel.

The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which brings Azeri oil from the Caspian Sea to the Mediterranean for westbound shipments, caught fire Tuesday night and Turkey's state-run Anatolia news agency said it could remain shut down for up to 15 days. The pipeline can pump slightly more than 1 million barrels of crude oil per day or more than 1 percent of the world's daily crude output

It was not clear what ignited the blaze and by late Thursday, the fire still had not been fully extinguished.

Global oil prices jumped back above US$120 a barrel, rising for the first time in four days after the rebel Kurdistan Workers' Party, known as PKK, claimed responsibility for sabotaging the pipeline, according to the pro-Kurdish news agency Firat which often carries the group's statements.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:09 AM
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10. Why would Russia kill civilians which are mostly Russian citizens?
I don't get this. I thought they were going in to protect their own. I don't see how killing them is helpful.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:10 AM
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11. We aren't helping
by trying to take former soviet republics into Nato if I was Russia I'd be angry about that too.....that being said this a tremendous tragedy.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:12 AM
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12. Energy pipeline that supplies West threatened by war Georgia conflict
Analysis: energy pipeline that supplies West threatened by war Georgia conflict

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4484849.ece


The conflict that has erupted in the Caucasus has set alarm bells ringing because of Georgia's pivotal role in the global energy market.
Georgia has no significant oil or gas reserves of its own but it is a key transit point for oil from the Caspian and central Asia destined for Europe and the US.

Crucially, it is the only practical route from this increasingly important producer region that avoids both Russia and Iran.

The 1,770km (1,100 miles) Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which entered service only last year, pumps up to 1 million barrels of oil per day from Baku in Azerbaijan to Yumurtalik, Turkey, where it is loaded on to supertankers for delivery to Europe and the US. Around 249km of the route passes through Georgia, with parts running only 55km from South Ossetia.

. . .

Only a few days before the Turkish explosion, Georgian separatists threatened to sabotage the pipeline if hostilities continued.
The latest eruption of violence could easily spur fresh attacks. The BTC pipeline, which is buried throughout most of its length to make sabotage more difficult, was a politically highly charged project. It was firmly opposed by Russia, which views the Caucasus as its own sphere of influence and wants central Asian oil to be exported via its own territory.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:17 AM
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14. Oil prices start going down
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 09:18 AM by Jake3463
and now we have another regional conflict...hmmmm

Drill Here Dill Now Pay Less :sarcasm:

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