The issue isn't the AFFAIR, it is the LYING.

[GarbagemanLB]

Edwards LIED about it. Period. What a dissapointment.

Also, what the hell was he doing last month with her if the affair ended in 2006?

I hope he isn't allowed anywhere near the Convention.

[WillyT]

1. Well Of Course... If You've Had An Affair, You Should Definitely Tell Everybody...

:banghead:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. When you are asked about it, and are running for President, you should.

Either fess up, or tell them it's none of their business. Edwards denied it. He lied. Repeatedly.

[DainBramaged]

2. Agreed. He is like a pile of dog shit now, walk around it or step in it

the second choice being awful.

[GarbagemanLB]

3. Thank GOD he wasn't our nominee.

[avaistheone1]

27. Martin Luther King could not even keep these standards.

Yet he was a man of the cloth and a great leader at the same time he had affairs.

I think most of you people are far too judgmental.

[TornadoTN]

33. Again, its not the affair, its the lies and the deception

The affair is between he and his wife - but this charade has been brewing for two years now and he has adamantly denied it and covered it up.

Now we get to see news on the Edwards affair all the way up the convention, maybe beyond. Thanks John for not having the backbone to come clean on this months - if not years - ago. Sure, in a perfect world these things would be private - but thats not the way it works in America and its a shame. Why couldn't he have been honest about this, knowing that he knew that this was going to be the outcome?

[avaistheone1]

44. It is no ones business what happened in Edward's personal life in the past.

People lie. Obama said he was going to filibuster FISA. He never filibustered and then he actually voted for it. That was a lie. But we are going to trust him and vote for him anyway.

An affair certainly is inconsequential in comparison to that.

Affairs are personal issues.

[Texasgal]

55. Affairs are personal issues.

Only if you are a Democrat...

Republican? Forget it... it's no longer "personal".

:eyes:

[MannyGoldstein]

4. And He's Still Lying

That kid is his - it's the only thing that reasonably explains his behavior. I'd bet good money on it.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

16. I'm afraid so too. Waiting for the next shoe to drop.

He's probably hoping that the paternity test will reveal it's someone else but I also don't see why he'd make a furtive visit to a baby that he was certain wasn't his.

[MonteLukast]

36. Pleading with her to leave him alone? (nm)

[FedUpWithIt All]

48. It is kind of difficult to believe the whole story of the hotel visit was BS now. n/t

[Clear Blue Sky]

51. I agree.

Men typically don't bounce strange babies on their knees. For his sake I hope the baby isn't his as this second lie will really finish him.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

57. I agree. Why bring the baby - only to show him.

[darius15]

5. Yup

Definitely lost my respect

[PresidentObama]

6. This is GDP, NOT GD. Take it there.

I'm here to talk about Barry O vs. Johnny Mac.

[cliffordu]

7. So what do you think: Water boarding or castration??

:sarcasm:

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. .

:spray:

[DJ13]

8. He lost the nomination without this lie being any consequence

Its unimportant at this point.

[SammyWinstonJack]

9. LOL! Lying about a personal affair! Oops!

Has Clinton been brought yet? :silly:

[YDogg]

11. for some people, both are issues.

i mean, what the hell?

[lumberjack_jeff]

13. Don't I know you? 1998? I'm sure I've talked to you before. n/t

[mrreowwr_kittty]

20. You know what? I felt the same way in 1998.

I thought Bill Clinton did a scuzzy thing in the Oval Office with a 22 year old intern, and was doubly disgusted because he lied to the entire nation about it.

Do I think it rose to the level of impeachable offense? No. Of course it was a RW witch hunt. But that doesn't mean I have to approve of Bill Clinton's behavior.

[earth mom]

14. Who did he lie to? He did not owe you or anyone BUT Elizabeth an explanation!

Why is that so hard for people to understand?! :freak:

[Ichingcarpenter]

21. He lied to his campaign staff that had to defend him for two years

saying it was just tabloid trash who sacrificed their time, money
blood, sweat and tears for him.

Is that so hard for you to understand?

[grassfed]

25. he needs to pay back ALL the money and vanish fast

[earth mom]

34. ROFLMAO! Tell that to * & Co who have been ROBBING the entire U.S. population for YEARS!

:rofl:

[grassfed]

35. gee, hadn't heard about that

Bush is a gangster - the Edwards economic populism is (was) the antidote. You may have noticed that public perception is rather important these days in a pres bid.

[earth mom]

32. Show me a REAL crime Edwards committed and I'll give a damn. Otherwise....

:nopity:

p.s. I saw an tabloid headline saying that Oprah is in love with Obama. So tell me, is that true or false, and do YOU really give a damn either way?

Probably not. :eyes:

[Ichingcarpenter]

43. I never said there was a crime but you don't think he should apologize to

the ones that had to stand up and represent him and his campaign to the media
by denying these rumors as false for two years. Screw them right, they don't count
they don't deserve an explaination?
His manager today said he and many upper level staff were deeply hurt.


Probably not.

[sam sarrha]

15. the lying was a sign of good sense.. getting caught was the mistake

[elizm]

17. Same with Bill Clinton, right? It was the lying.... not the affair.

I want a President that I can trust. Edwards should never have put himself out there as a candidate knowing that this could have come out at the last minute and have cost the election. Obviously it had become more about him than about what was best for us 'little people'.

[grassfed]

29. ULTRA EXTREME boss/intern power imbalance with Bill Clinton - closer to rape

Funny how Hillary's self described "feminists" don't care about that whatsoever. But Barack is a male chauvinist pig for calling Hillary "Annie Oakley!"

[ddeclue]

18. Why should it be any of your business in the first place?

Your logic is circular - a self fulfilling prophecy if you will.

If the underlying behavior is none of your business you have NO right to ask the question in the first place and don't deserve an honest answer.

As Hank Williams Sr. wrote "Mind Your Own Business.. if you mind your own business you'll be busy all the time"

If the wife and I are fussin', brother that's our right
'Cause me and that sweet woman's got a license to fight
Why don't you mind your own business
(Mind your own business)
'Cause if you mind your business, then you won't be mindin' mine.

Oh, the woman on our party line's the nosiest thing
She picks up her receiver when she knows it's my ring
Why don't you mind your own business
(Mind your own business)
Well, if you mind your business, then you won't be mindin' mine.

I got a little gal that wears her hair up high,
the boys all whistle when she walks by.
why don't you mind your own buisness
(Mind your own business)
Well, if you mind your own business, you sure won't be minding mine.

If I want to honky tonk around 'til two or three
Now, brother that's my headache, don't you worry 'bout me.
Just mind your own business
(Mind your own business)
If you mind your business, then you won't be mindin' mine.

Mindin' other people's business seems to be high-toned
I got all that I can do just to mind my own
Why don't you mind your own business
(Mind your own business)
If you mind your own business, you'll stay busy all the time

Hank Williams, Sr. 1949

[grassfed]

30. a little thing called media

sorta relevant in a pres bid, you know like the 10,000 threads about it on DU? The dude is an asshole for taking our time and money and giving it to FOX.

[Crunchy Frog]

59. He was running for my party's presidential nomination.

That makes it my business. Now that his political career is over, he can fuck half the country for all I care.

[SunDrop23]

19. Fortunately someone started ANOTHER thread about the same topic. Thanks. (nt)

good lord people give it a rest.

[CatWoman]

22. TASTES GREAT!!!!

NO, LESS FILLING!!!!!

Nope, uh uh - TASTES GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WillyT]

28. We're All Still Looking For Mr. Goodbar, Eh Cat ???

The naivete of the American people is why continue on down the spiral of suck.

:shrug:

[Andy Canuck]

23. With a puritanical and sexually immature culture as the USA

has, what choice does someone have but to lie? The DU's reaction to this event is exactly why he had to lie. Puritanical, morally nauseating, and I am sure as you are all human, definitely hypocritical, he lied because if he hadn't he for sure would never have had a chance to be president and follow through on his agenda.

[WinkyDink]

39. We kind of look askance at dual families.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

42. Dontcha love when the cultural relativists come out?

"Oh, you Americans are so judgmental about _____!"

Whatever. John Edwards should have known goddamn better.

[Andy Canuck]

46. Relativist?

No, I am absolutely sure about the puritanism, moral nausea, and hypocrisy.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

47. Dude, I've lived in Canada. Nanaimo, BC.

Far as I could tell, infidelity was no more acceptable there than it is here.

You're full of shit, and hoping that we Amurkin yokels won't smell it. We do.

[Andy Canuck]

67. Its the stats

human beings aren't monogamous animals. I understand the hurt, I wanted John Edwards to be president more than anyone. I understand the hurt, because it hurts to get cheated on. But it happens. People fuck up. People do stupid things, even people running for president do stupid things. But I don't feel disappointed in people being human, I feel disappointed in others who don't accept they are human, with all their frailties. I would still vote for John Edwards, if I could. He had no choice but to lie, because he is not allowed to be human.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

40. Yeah, it's so puritanical to think that a man should keep it in his pants

When he's running for President and his wife is dying of cancer. Oh, and what prudes we are for disapproving of him paying his mistress, a novice filmmaker, $140K in campaign funds to produce a documentary that was never released.

Spare me the jaded world-weary mockery. I've lived in other countries, including one where infidelity was "accepted" (for males, of course) and observed that cheated-on spouses are just as devastated no matter where it is. If monogamy is not your bag, fine. Don't enter into a relationship where monogamy is expected.

[Crunchy Frog]

61. Or he could have just refrained from fucking around while running for president.

:shrug:

[melody]

24. I agree -- I don't give a damn about his sex life. When he lies about it ...

I have to question his integrity.

It's a damned shame. I worked very hard for him and supported him in the primaries. :(

[RedShoes]

26. who did he lie to? was he asked the question? is it ANY of our freaking BUSINESS???

[mrreowwr_kittty]

45. Uh, how about everyone who has asked him about it up until yesterday?

Is is our business? No. But the days of "gentlemen's agreements" over things like this are over. Edwards knew better. He condemned Bill Clinton for the Lewinsky affair 10 years ago.

[RedShoes]

49. when Edwards condemned Clinton, BC was a sitting president. Was Edwards in ANY public office when

this happened, or was he a private citizen? This crotch sniffing is a bit much.

[Midlodemocrat]

52. Good point.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

66. Oh yeah, like I'm sure that would make a big difference if Edwards were our nominee right now.

"But Bill Clinton was a sitting President when he committed adultery and I condemned him for it. I'm just a Presidential candidate who committed adultery on the campaign trail. Can't you see the distinction?"

[renie408]

31. I don't even care about the lying. I care about the damage he has done.

I care that he presented himself as a spotless home boy candidate and I care that now instead of talking about McCain's fucked up policies, everybody is going to talk about this. THAT'S what I care about. And you know what? He did all that TO ME. So yeah, I am taking that personally.

[WinkyDink]

37. He accused OTHERS, HONEST others, of being LIARS.

That SLANDER ("ridiculous; completely false")is why the NE dogged his arse and tracked him down, currying favor$ enough to know what hotel and which room she was using; to get into the hotel room to conceal a camera; to know when Edwards would be arriving; and to know which exit he'd be using.
The fox was treed.

Anyone who thinks those are the only photos, that this story is done, that the witnesses will remain silent, doesn't know the NE when it's challenged.

[jayfish]

38. Neither Is An Issue.

People have affairs. They lie about them. It's the nature of things and it's no ones damn business but the parties involved.

Jay

[La Lioness Priyanka]

41. why shouldnt he have? its not our business.

i dont understand what people are so hung up about. this is his personal problem with his wife. the rest of the country needs to but out.

i wasnt even the biggest edwards fan but honestly.

[TexasObserver]

50. If the child is his, it means he was having the affair while running for president.

I'm not believing he ended it in 2006.

[Cleita]

53. I guess the media can lie over and over again and it's called

First Amendment rights. But a politician who lied to the public about a personal matter, which he did not lie to his wife about, the only person who mattered and whose only business it was, must go into seclusion, never to be seen again. It doesn't make any sense to me.

[MorningGlow]

54. Well lookee here

That's EXACTLY the same meme my Repub hubby drags out whenever he wants to talk about Clinton, even this many years later. So, what, we've all become just like the Republicans pillorying Clinton over and over and over?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

56. did you say the same about Bill? I ask, because I didn't - but I

am with Edwards now - and now that time has passed about Bill as well. Maybe I am just getting
more judgemental.

[depakid]

58. LOL. Name a politican who hasn't lied

I don't know what's worse- men and women who philander, or the people who're ever so quick to jump up on their high horses to decry them.

[ravishane]

60. Edwards is a damn liar

I hope all the "progressives" who like that guy FINALLY understand that he is a total fraud. Hedge fund mofo. I can't believe how anyone could believe that he is actually concerned about poverty. What a joke.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

62. I remember well LBJ and JFK telling everybody about their affairs.

"My fellow Americans I am proud to tell you that I've been having a grand time getting laid by women other than my wife."

Yup. Like any good politician they were completely honest about romps. Or, just like all good Americans who brag about cheating on their wives/husbands.

I also remember the tooth fairy kissing me on the forehead when she slipped that nickel under my pillow.

[mokawanis]

63. The issue isn't the lying, it's the hypocrisy

Who he does or doesn't sleep with isn't any of our business. This wouldn't even be an issue if this society didn't have such a tabloid mentality. The rest of the world is laughing,once again, at the crazy judgemental Americans.

[TexasObserver]

64. This should not be confused with Clinton's impeachment.

Bill Clinton was guilty of lying, of being too clever by half, and of getting caught screwing a subordinate. That warranted disdain and embarrassment, not impeachment.

I never defended Bill's actions with Lewinsky. My defense of him has always been that impeachment was an outrageously excessive response, and not warranted by law or history.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

65. Who in the fuck tells the TRUTH about an affair? n/t