A mass of ramblings in a different and dated view of the Anthrax Attacks and more

[FormerOstrich]

I was underemployed early 2002 and going through a very difficult time. Since the source of my misery seemed to be directly related to current events I spent a lot of time trying to make sense of the world.

My focus seemed to be a little unfocused. However, I was really drilling down into a few specifics.

One of my obsessions was/is Frank Carlucci. There is something about that man that frightens the hell out of me. Much worse then Cheney and/or Bush. Not to mention I believe him to be "A" if not "THE" man behind the curtain.

Another obsession was/is Monsonto. From that ball of wax that brings in some other players.

I was convinced the above held the clues and solution of the Anthrax Attacks. I just didn't ever have the resource and/or wherewithal to put it all together. Since the resolution of the case (sic) has been announced I decided to stroll through memory lane. I found a jumbled cache of things I had found and posted here.

So the following are just tidbits from a time past, that might look different in a new light. Might be just something that jogs a memory or inspires some additional thought. The following text are from posts I made in early 2002. Most likely many, if not all of the links will no longer work. I am providing them anyway in case it might help find the original publication.

Here we go...if I haven't lost you yet....

Carlucci setting the stage early at the WhiteHouse

From the minute Bush hit DC so did Carlucci. Carlucci was chairing commeties and shaking and moving. Here are some excerpts from White House transcripts.

We normally do not question members of Congress.

We were going to make an exception for you, but time marches on,
and Mr. Carlucci has a very important appointment, and I'm sure Mr. Kaden does.

GILMAN: In visiting posts around the world, we find that there' s so much that has to be
done to bring them up to date, to provide proper security, to provide decent quarters.
And I'm sure that that kind of an autonomous group, privatized group, can do a better
job than the State Department has been doing. The information technology is abominable,
and when you talked about the 18th Century, that underscores how bad off we are in getting
decent technology to a department that's supposed to advise us on policy and about the
problems that are occurring around the world.

HYDE: Thank you very much. Thanks, Hal. On the second panel, we have two distinguished
gentlemen. Secretary Frank Carlucci, currently the chairman in the Carlyle Group, served as
secretary of defense from 1987 to 1989, as well as President Reagan's national security
advisor in 1987. He has a long career in government, including being a member in the
foreign service. He comes to us today having chaired the most recent independent task force
that produced the report, State Department Reform.

CARLUCCI: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I join in congratulating you and Mr. Lantos on assuming the leadership of this committee.
I've worked over the years with both of you, and I can't think of better leaders.
I very much appreciate your inviting me here today as chairman of an independent task force
sponsored by CSIS and the Council of Foreign Relations looking into the management of the
State Department, and I commend you for making this the first item on your agenda.

The State Department is an organization that is literally crying out for reform, and this
committee will play a key role. ....as many of you know, I'm close to both him and Rich Armitage as they both worked for me at one point -- because it emphasizes the link between our Defense Department and our State Department. And I go back to the final days of the Cold War......
.......

But a great deal remains to be done, and so I was pleased to be asked to serve on the task
force with Frank Carlucci and to endorse its recommendations as well. I've learned a
Washington lesson in the last three weeks. If you have a reform proposal for the new
administration, you should call it the Carlucci Plan, and it will get prompt attention.

.....It requires the secretary of state's leadership, and it was extremely encouraging to me that Secretary Powell not only met with us on his first day in his new quarters, but showed in that meeting that he had absorbed and digested both the Overseas Presence Report and the Carlucci task force. We didn't have to brief him on these issues. We had a good interchange because he had already immersed himself in them, and I think that's quite encouraging. But we all know as well that there will be bureaucratic resistance, just as there was last year.

Author not available, U.S. REPRESENTATIVE HENRY HYDE (R-IL) CHAIRMAN U.S. REPRESENTATIVE HENRY HYDE (R-IL) HOLDS HEARING ON STATE DEPARTMENT REORGANIZATION. , Washington Transcript Service, 02-14-2001.
2/14/01

For those of you that thought I was nutso for attempting to tie Monsanto to Anthrax, it didn't take much for me to find where research IS happening. Does this count as a potential financial benefit from recent Anthrax fright? Damn! I love bananas, but do we dare trust them anymore?

Modified bananas could deliver anthrax vaccine
October 22 -- Reuters
SHANGHAI -- Genetically modified fruit and other food could be used in future to deliver medicine, including a vaccine against anthrax, an Australian bio-technology fund manager said on the weekend.
....snip...
Carre said bananas were already being genetically modified in research laboratories for all types of medicinal purposes, including immunization against four strains of anthrax .....
http://www.thecampaign.org/newsupdates/oct01h.htm

General Information about Danforth & Monsanto

http://www.motherjones.com/coinop_congress/stock_congress/john_danforth.html

SEN. JOHN DANFORTH (R-MO)
On October 29, 1993, Sen. Danforth purchased between 100,000 and 200,000 dollars worth of stock in Bell Atlantic. This is the day after the Senate started their hearing on the anti-trust implications of the proposed Bell Atlantic/TCI merger.

Two weeks earlier (October 15, 1993), the national media ran a number of stories about Congress' growing concerns over the proposed Bell Atlantic/TCI merger. The Washington Post quoted Sen. Metzenbaum as saying he was considering legislation that would block the Bell Atlantic/TCI deal. Metzenbaum said, "They're going to be in a position to drive out other companies in the market and that's bad for consumers." Sen. Danforth, on the other hand, was quoted as saying that telephone companies SHOULD be able to enter the cable television business.

On June 14, 1993, Sen. Danforth purchased between 2,000 and 30,000 dollars worth of stock in Raytheon (i.e., Patriot Missiles).

On the same day (June 14), the House introduced H.R. 2401: DEFENSE DEPARTMENT AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FY94 (Became Public Law 103-160).

http://www.biotechknowledge.monsanto.com/biotech/knowcenter.nsf/ID/AE36EAE228392AB606256AF5004CD81D?OpenDocument

Danforth Plant Science Center Is Focusing On Research To Improve Human Condition
30-Oct-2001 St Louis Post-Dispatch
Virginia Baldwin, Gilbert

In some ways, the Donald Danforth Plant Science Center resembles a private research university.
But unlike Harvard or Washington University, the Danforth Center has no athletic fields, no course schedules, no graduation.

Nor does it have many of the financial resources of a university. It has no tuition, no alumni who can be hit up for contributions, and its endowment is little more than a fund-raising plan.

It is, instead, an independent, nonprofit, research institution -- similar to the much larger Scripps Research Institute in San Diego or the Stowers Institute for Medical Research that recently opened in Kansas City. Those centers do medical research.

Roger N. Beachy, Danforth Center director, believes the Center may be unique among U.S. independent nonprofit research institutions, because it focuses solely on plant research as a way to improve the human condition.

Independent research centers forge alliances with universities and corporations and receive government grants, but they operate independently and seek ways to transfer research into practice, often through the marketplace.

On Friday, the Danforth Center will open its new building at 975 Warson Road in Creve Coeur. The opening marks a new chapter in the 3-year-old organization, bringing its scattered scientists and staff under one roof

How it started

In spring 1998, Monsanto Co., the Missouri Botanical Garden, Washington University and the University of Missouri at Columbia announced plans for a plant science research center.

In August of that year, the University of Illinois joined the academic partners, and the Monsanto Fund and Danforth Foundation joined as financial supporters. The center was named for the late Donald Danforth, a former chairman of Ralston-Purina and the father of former U.S. Sen. John C. Danforth, R-Mo., and Dr. William H. Danforth, former chancellor of Washington University.

John Danforth said at the time that the name was a fitting tribute to the man whose "mission was to feed the world."

The center was launched and the building constructed with a blend of non-profit, corporate, academic and government contributions:

* Monsanto Co. donated land worth $11.4 million.

* The Monsanto Fund, a nonprofit foundation, donated $50 million. Of that, $40 million was donated through the Missouri Development Finance Board, for which the foundation received $20 million in tax credits that it sold to 26 buyers for an average price of 95 cents on the dollar.

* The Danforth Foundation donated $60 million (including $5 million in annual operating funds through 2008). Of that, $10 million was donated through the center to the Missouri Development Finance Board, for which the Center received $5 million in tax credits. The center then sold those credits to two contributors for 95 cents on the dollar and used that money as well.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-185es.html

He asked rhetorically,
"If we spy for military security, why shouldn't we spy for
economic security?"(4) Sen. John Danforth (R-Mo.) echoed
those sentiments, contending, "Economic intelligence is
going to be increasingly important to our country."(5)

The premise of Turner, Danforth, and others appears to
be that international economic competition inherently poses
a national security threat. Such an unwarranted assumption
betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of economics and will
distract U.S. intelligence agencies from their proper func-
tion: gathering information on genuine security threats. It
could also lead to an unhealthy and potentially corrupt
relationship between those agencies and American corpora-
tions. Finally, it has the potential to poison relations
with other democratic capitalist countries.

http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/af/security/a1090601.htm

September 6, 2001

Remarks by the President
and Senator John Danforth
on Danforth's appointment
as special envoy to the Sudan

This is how I was thiking in 2002....I have added comments into the original text to explain the context.

The Senate anthrax was identical to what they hadn't been producing in Utah (Dugway) at the time there were various reports saying they identified the Anthrax had come from Utah in at least one of the letters

I have posted in the past 1) Anthrax "expert" scientists were upset that the FBI was not consulting with them 2) Anthrax "expert" scientists created a list of suspects. They were complaining that the FBI wouldn't investigate

Where's my money? Remember how the samples varied (weaponized, not-weaponized, weaponized...). I bet there was actually four different "batches" contained in the envelopes . I bet they are the same four strains which was reported in the article regarding vaccinations within the bio-engineered.

From here I started digging into the links between BioPort, Carlucci, and Battelle. I believe Battelle was very involved. However, I have seen some recent posts regarding BioPort and the link below has more information in this vien.

I never knew what to make of this guy but there is a treasure trove of sourced information contained within. I haven't seen this re-posted recently (but it has been hard to keep up on everything).

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/anthrax_espionage.html

[Muttocracy]

1. Is this the Dugway article (military ground anthrax link)

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/EPI/bioter/anthraxmatchesarmyspores.html

[FormerOstrich]

2. Yes,

your link contains the information I refereed to. Notice all the differences between what they are saying there versus now.

In one of the articles I read today:

More than 200 pages of documents were made public by the FBI, virtually all of them describing the government's attempts to link Ivins to the crimes. In nearly 9 years of investigations they only had 200 pages of documents!

"It is a very compelling case," said Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J., who attended a briefing for lawmakers and staff. This guy will obviously say anything.....yuck

The government material describes at length painstaking scientific efforts to trace the source of the anthrax that was used in the attacks. Yes, at length...painstaking 10M new technology in 200 pages

Thanks for the link!

[Muttocracy]

3. Those are some pretty damn expensive pages. nt

[FormerOstrich]

4. no shit...

If I (or most of us) did such on the job we'd be out and into the soup line in a second. I've never heard of anyone losing thier job over this fucked up investigation.

I don't know why I still let it all get to me so much!