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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:51 AM
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CBS evening news interviewed a downwardly mobile family yesterday (Tuesday)
The family lived in Grosse Point Hills, a suburb of Detroit. The father had been laid off from an auto-industry related job. Now to make up for the loss of income, he's delivering newspapers. I guess I don't need to tell you he doesn't make nearly as much doing that as he used to.

The reporter asked the couple if they were middle class. "Not any more," the wife said. "We were."

Multiply this families' story by thousands...
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:54 AM
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1. Masses of downwardly mobile people
is the new hallmark of America.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:58 AM
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2. "Pull yourselves up by your own damn newspaper routes. Smirk." - Republicons
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:04 AM
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3. They're Several Years Too Late For Many
As long as this regime could manipulate economic figures to make the economy look good, the corporate media said it was all good. If you weren't "keeping up", then it must be your fault. Many of us have seen a steady decline in both earning power and spending power over the past 7 1/2 years...now it's all amped up as high oil prices is like a massive tax increase...draining what's left of any "discretionary spending" and forcing more and more to tighten belts and make more with less. As the networks are finally realizing this?

The ticking timebomb of a dollar in free-fall and the growing credit bomb is going to make any recovery slow and painful...and we still have a ways to go. This regime won't lift a finger to slow down it's pillage of the treasury...and will dig in for more to bail out more of its buddies...and any "relief" will be too little too late. The corporate media is starting to wake up to what's going on out here but still are blissfully ignorant to what's causing this. It's easier to blame unions and say how great tax breaks to the rich are.
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:05 AM
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4. I wonder if this book is finding any takers these days.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:39 AM
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10. Yeah as a bird cage liner. nt
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:12 AM
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5. And I'll bet they vote Republican because of fears of gay marriage, imaginary terrorists,
and "illegals" immigration.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:35 AM
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6. Its the American Dream in reverse.
But some people think we are just whiners who just aren't working hard enough.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:37 AM
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7. Gee, I guess that means they should move to a cheaper neighborhood!
:sarcasm:
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:37 AM
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8. There's a fine living to be had selling on eBay.
Start with your most easily shipped possessions.
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MaryEllen71 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:40 AM
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9. I have relatives that live in Grosse Pointe Farms
This family probably lives in Grosse Pointe Park-that would be the middle class area. Grosse Pointe is a very wealthy area nad conservative.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:46 AM
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11. WeLCoME To DU MaryEllen71
BHN:party: :hi: :thumbsup:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:55 AM
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13. It's Grosse Pointe Woods. Here's a link to the video from the newscast ...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/24/eveningnews/main4206421.shtml

(CBS) Grosse Pointe Woods is a serene, leafy suburb of Detroit. But the grass might not be as green as it looks.

Mike Remenar is losing his neighbors, CBS News correspondent Seth Doane reports.

"The house right there has been foreclosed upon, the one across the street," he said.

His wife, Ruth, is petrified that they might be next.

"I've actually had nightmares where I've woken up and gone 'Ahhh!' like that," she said.

Those bad dreams could very well turn into reality. Mike, a white-collar auto executive, was laid off almost a year ago.

"If Mike does not get a job as an automotive designer soon, I don't know what we're going to do," Ruth said.

Seventeen-year-old Michael, their oldest son, would sure like to help out - but can't.

"The thing is, a lot of adults are taking jobs that used to be filled by teenagers - because they can't find more professional work - so they're taking part-time $8-an-hour work," Michael said. "And kids just can't find work around here anymore."

And he should know - because his dad is delivering newspapers.

Seven days a week, at 2 a.m., Mike and Ruth wake up to stuff papers. They then zigzag through nearby neighborhoods.

It's the only job they could find - a paper route - and it doesn't pay much.

Do they consider themselves middle class?

"Not anymore," Ruth said. "We were."

What do they consider yourselves now?

"Lower class," Ruth said.

The Remenars used to love family vacations. But the closest they can get to one now is when they can book a ticket for someone else.

They turned their den into a travel agency to try to earn a little more.

"Nobody in Michigan is traveling right now!" Ruth said.
Couric & Co. Blog: Fear And Losing In Suburbia
Mike says he's applied for jobs at every business and every store around. Kroger's didn't take him - but they do take food stamps he was forced into in January.

"We can make the food stamps work," Mike said.

And without them, he said, "we'd be pretty hungry."

Using them is kind of embarrassing, Mike says, but it's worth putting food on the table.

"We should change our last name to The Worries," Ruth said. "I mean, because that's what we do best. I mean, he's worried about me, I'm worried about him, we're worried about the house, we're worried about the kids - we're worried about everything!"

Worried - about this September. With Michael hoping to go to college - and a lump payment that they don't have due on the house.

"All of my children but one were born here," Ruth said. "It's hard - it's just really hard."

Ruth says the paper route hours aren't so bad - because she really can't sleep anyway. For now, they're just hoping that some good news will be delivered to them someday soon.


If you'd like to contact the Remenars, you can find their information on their travel Web site.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:09 PM
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15. Automotive designer??
The oil industry is soaking us... the lack of national healthcare and failure to keep up with trends has American manufacturers off-shoring factories... people can't afford cars and he's only looking to get a job as an auto designer?

Look, I've been in similar situations as the Remenars. My husband starts a new job next week after having been out of work for two months, but he didn't limit himself, which gave him more opportunities.

I don't know what degree Mike has, but I would assume he could use it in another industry. I'm sure it's some sort of CAD-related degree. Those are VERY MUCH IN DEMAND down South. The family could move. I know it's hard, but if you have a limited degree, sometimes you have to.

Of course, they'd have to sell their house, which might be impossible.

Good luck to these folks, but I just don't see how he'll find another job like what he had.

:(

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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:57 PM
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16. I bet their house is mortgaged to the hilt.
And it is clear that they have an ARM with a
balloon payment.

They are stuck, and may end up
just walking away and moving to
a city near you....

the cancer spreads.

It will not begin and end
with manufacturing.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:48 AM
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12. There is no such place as Grosse Pointe Hills.
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 11:48 AM by PassingFair
It does not exist.

There is a City, the Shores, the Woods, the Farms and the Park.

No Hills.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:01 PM
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14. It's in the Detroit area, no wonder!
That is the most economically depressed metro in the nation. We're not too far behind in St. Louis. If things keep going like they are, the entire country will be in the same shape the Detroit area is in now.
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