Imus makes another racist remark

[dancingme]

From Americablog:

When hearing about Cowboys cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones' offenses that led to his suspension including being arrested six times and being involved in night club altercations:

ANNOUNCER: Defensive back Adams "Pacman" Jones, recently signed by the Cowboys, here's a guy suspended all of 2007, following a shooting in a Vegas nightclub.

IMUS: Well, stuff happens. You're in a nightclub, for God's sake. What do you think is gonna happen in a nightclub. People are drinking, and doing drugs. There are women there and people have guns. So there, go ahead.

ANNOUNCER: Also, he's been arrested six times since being drafted by Tennessee in 2005.

IMUS: What color is he?

ANNOUNCER: He's African American.

IMUS: Ha ha, well there you go, now we know.

http://www.americablog.com/

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. I'd like to hear the Imus fans spin this one.

Suckers.

[jobycom]

5. I'm still shocked that anyone defended him last time. nt

[islandmkl]

6. probably a statistical reference...

you are aware of the statistics for arrests by race...

for 2006:

http://encarta.msn.com/media_701500292_761559497_-1_1/arrests_by_race_in_the_united_states.html

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. So then according to your statistics...

a criminal is more likely to be white, for all crimes.

[EOTE]

23. No, that's not what the stats say at all.

They say that if someone has been arrested and in prison six times, that person is far more likely to be a person of color. It MAY have been a racist remark coming from Imus, but I'm not sure. He very well have been making a comment on what a large percentage of the prison population consists of non-whites when it's whites that commit the bulk of the crimes in this country.

[EOTE]

28. And looking back at what you say, yes whites constitute the bulk of people who commit crimes.

But NOT the bulk of the prison population. Doing the crime and doing the time are completely separate things.

[skooooo]

14. That's how I take it....

Imus is not a racist, I don't care what anyone says.

He's messed up and isn't perfect, but I don't think he was saying anything more than black people are more likely to be arrested.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. Those statistics are working against your argument.

So are the transcripts.

:rofl:

[skooooo]

17. nope

Disagree.

Peace.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. The statistics show whites committing far more crimes.

It's right there in black and white.

:shrug:

[skooooo]

21. Black people are arrested disperportionately (sp)

If I'm white, and you're black and we're walking down the street doing nothing you are more likely to get arrested than I am.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. Yes, this is true. But a criminal is more likely to be white.

From the context of Imus's conversation, he started with a criminal, and erroneously inferred that he was black because he was a criminal, even though according to these statistics, any given criminal is more likely to be white.

[skooooo]

30. That's not the only way to interpret it and you know it.

You have your mind set about Imus, and that's fine.

If we're talking about someone who has been stopped by cops numerous times and arrested, and I ask if they are black, you can take than in two different ways. You can give me the benefit of the doubt and take that I mean that blacks are more likely to be stopped and hassled, or you can think that I'm racist against blacks and think they do all the crime.

I understand no one feels he deserves the benefit of a doubt, and maybe he doesn't. Nevertheless, I don't think he means blacks are more likely to be criminals.

[endarkenment]

35. I would give you the benefit of the doubt

Imus: not so much. He has a long history, very well documented, of racist idiocy both on and off the air.

[skooooo]

37. Understand...

....and don't blame you really. He doesn't have a clean record, so I can see why people are quick to jump on this.

:hi:

[genna]

54. Why are you willing to give him the B of the D considering his considerable lip?

I went back to read some of your past opinions before I commented here because I wanted to make sure it was worth asking you what you meant.

I don't feel like Don Imus' later explanation is believable.


He is already walking a tightrope considering his last few controversial comments. I understand he just is a provocateur, but he does himself a disservice by saying crap that will get him in the cross hairs. He probably is an equal opportunity a offender but he has a bald spot for AAs. Most of us don't understand the appeal he has to the cross section of America who loves him.

What is that he gives to the public sphere that makes his continued bald spot for AAs acceptable?

[Bluebear]

48. 'Imus is not a racist, I don't care what anyone says.' - you know this how?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

44. And they did!

Amazing. They had statistics and everything. :puke:

[rateyes]

2. What a piece of shit that guy turned out to be.

[tularetom]

3. Who gives a crap - only 17 people listen to his piece a shit show

I think he's on about 4 stations.

[skooooo]

12. Ratings are better than Morning Joe

You're wrong. He's on all kinds of stations.

[Zavulon]

4. What a fucking idiot.

Pacman Jones is enough of a piece of shit that he can be ripped left and right without brining an entire race into it. Imus had all that ammo against a complete and utter turd and STILL couldn't hide his fucking racism.

Still, even for Imus it's hard to believe someone so close to being canned could be this stupid again.

[LynneSin]

7. Wait - I use to go clubbing for almost 10 years

I drank but never did drugs, I am a woman and you can't get into most major clubs without going thru a metal detector - even back then.

[monmouth]

8. He just can't help himself, I used to listen on RFD, gave up....n/t

[islandmkl]

9. and, imus has shown his racist ass, regardless...

[skooooo]

11. This is bullshit..

Unless I hear the audio, I don't believe this. I watch his show every day. He has two outspoken African Americans on his show that would speak up if he said something like this.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. Ah, the "he's got lots of black friends" fallacy.

Almost makes sense, if you completely forget his previous racist comments.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/06/23/don-imus-on-adam-jones-what-color-is-he/

[skooooo]

16. Do you know who he regularly has on his show??

People like Dick Gregory talking about race relations.. When's the last time you saw Dick Gregory on a talk show??

And this AA professor, can't remember her name who engages the show with discussions about race.

There's not a mean bone in his body.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

18. Do you know you're still committing the same logical fallacy?

"There's not a mean bone in his body."

The guy, once again, has spoken racial slurs on air.

He's making a fool out of you.

[skooooo]

24. I guess I'm a fool then.

Sorry to disappoint you. I'm sure we agree on most other things, so I'm not going to get in a big fight with you about it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

26. LOL

There's nothing to fight about.

Imus is a racist. Clear as day.

[Bucky]

20. Yeah, who wouldn't be willing to stand up to their boss on the air? I know I would!

I mean, they're working with Don Imus, so obviously they've got lots of job prospects elsewhere. Go ahead, guy, mouth off to Imus.

I'm just glad we're able to all agree that simply because these two "outspoken" people are African American, they are therefor incapable of being racially insensitive and incapable of helping perpetuate a harmful stereotype.

[skooooo]

22. Do you watch the show??

No, so you know nothing about it.

[Bucky]

31. No, but I read the transcript

I'm not sure how you can spin this exchange into anything but bigotry

IMUS: What color is he?

ANNOUNCER: He's African American.

IMUS: Ha ha, well there you go, now we know.

Why even ask what the guy's "color" is? How is that even germaine to a discussion of his barroom troubles?

[skooooo]

33. Read what I've written...

...in my other posts. It can be interpreted two different ways.

[damntexdem]

27. The real "news" would be when he didn't make one.

[Disturbed]

32. "What color is he?"

Hmmm.... what if the response would have been, "He's brown." That would have included a lot of ethnic people.

That this question was asked shows a racial bias.

[skooooo]

36. Cops shot 50 bullets at a groom on his wedding day....What color was he??

Black. Big surprise.

There are different ways of interpreting what he said.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

38. LOL

So you're saying Imus is defending Pacman Jones's character against racist police. Is that it?

[skooooo]

39. Yep...LOL

Cause I've heard him say things like that before.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

40. Are you one of those people...

who gives away his bank account number to Nigerian princes?

[skooooo]

41. No...Bornagin..

...I'm a democrat just like you who is working for Obama to win.
:hi:

[CanonRay]

29. This guy is a complete pig.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

34. inexcuseable...

This, in my opinion, is *way* worse than the basketball comments..

[ThePowerofWill]

42. It's no surprise.

The surprise is the outrage. Imus is paid specifically to rattle cages, and say outrageous shit. Yep it may be racist, but it's nothing new.

[DinahMoeHum]

43. Warner Wolf (the announcer) is a bigger asshole for rising to the bait.

His response to Imus should have been, "What's that to you?"

:evilfrown:

[lonestarnot]

45. Guess he hasn't "learnt" yet. Snort. Sofa King we todd it!

[BlueManDude]

46. Imus is scum - but the politicians and journalists who still appear on his show are worse.

[Bluebear]

47. But he's just a lovable old coot, right Imus apologists?

[ladjf]

49. The leopard has not changed his spots.

[ismnotwasm]

50. He's not alone

There is a punk ass racist on a local radio station who is saying very similar, and worse things. Very popular rock station. I wonder how prevalent this shock jock pandering to the what--- white, 18 to 40 something year old demographic is around the country?


Somebody is listening to this shit and thinking it's ok. That's why an opportunist like Imus does it.

[UTUSN]

51. AND there it is/goes!1 n/t

[Postman]

52. Does Imus ever ask what color the Enron-type, corporate crooks are?

n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

53. What does it matter what color the athlete is?

Prick!

[jeffrey_X]

55. His is excuse is so lame it is laughable.

What is "sarcastic" about asking what his skin color is?