Am I asking too much?

[Solly Mack]

Is this too big for America? Too hard?

All I want is for the Bush administration to be tried for their war crimes.

Is that really asking too much?

[Uben]

1. What crimes?

Please list


















(yes, this could be the stupidest question ever asked)

[Solly Mack]

5. You're seriously going to pretend the Bush administration didn't implement a torture policy?

That the torture team didn't meet to individualize a torture regimen for people?

Because I'm not in the mood to pretend water-boarding isn't torture.

[Uben]

9. Oh, THOSE CRIMES!

HAng the bastards!

[devilgrrl]

2. No, you're not asking for much. In fact I ask for the same exact thing.

eom

[Solly Mack]

6. I don't think it'll happen but I get the feeling some people are more

put off by holding them accountable than they are the torture.

[Pastiche423]

19. The only thing that is keeping me from going

totally around the bend, is the thought that maybe Congress is waiting for him to be out of office, so that he can not pardon anyone.

I know it's not much, but it's all I have.

[Solly Mack]

20. I know exactly what you mean. I have this tiny bit of hope and it's all I have

[Thothmes]

18. Never happen

It appears that a majority of the Democratically controlled House and the Senate of the United States have come to a conclusion that the current administration has not committed any actions warrent impeachment and trial.

[Tace]

3. I Sure Don't Think So...

but my lovely wife keeps saying "it ain't gunna' happen."

I dunno'.

[Solly Mack]

7. My husband says the same thing when I bring it up...and I bring it up...daily

I keep hoping though

[Ashy Larry]

4. It would be nice to see that.

I'm not very optimistic that it will happen though. Obviously, a lot will depend on who is the next president and if they are able to lead the country in that direction.

[Solly Mack]

8. I wouldn't call it nice exactly...needed....necessary

But I agree...I'm not optimistic either :(

[AndyTiedye]

10. Send Them to the Hague!

The Peace Palace, The Hague.


Home of the International Criminal Court.

The U.N. Prison at the Hague.


Home of convicted war criminals.

[Solly Mack]

11. I'd rather America tried them. For many reasons

If another country attempts to try them but the US won't extradite (and if the US won't try them, I doubt they'd extradite them), then the talking point would be "damn foreigners trying to tell us what to do"...and the right wing would have a rallying cry to rile up people....and claim it's all lies (that Bush is a war criminal)

Also, if America cleaned up its own garbage, then that would help show that America acknowledges that war crimes were committed and is doing something about it....other than lip service

[AndyTiedye]

32. Pardon?

Extraditing them to the Hague for trial would be the first step.
Turn them over to the International Criminal Court for trial would go a long way to restoring our nation's standing in the world.

If they are tried in the Hague they can't be pardoned.

[magellan]

12. Maybe the House will get around to it after they finish suing OPEC. n/t

[Solly Mack]

13. I so had the same reaction to that! OPEC on steroids and they'd get the DP.

[Ahpook]

14. Like most everyone...

i am very curious why nothing has been done, anywhere? That includes right here in the US or in other countries.

I am sure i heard Germany and France bringing up charges... but then it's gone. Just start the shit and get the ball rolling. If nothing else, it stamps an effort that was made for fucks sake.


I agree, what IS going on?

[Solly Mack]

15. It's maddening...in a sick in the gut way.

Perhaps those countries that allowed extraordinary rendition flights and secret prisons are afraid they'd also be tried? What if no government is innocent in Bush's war on terror?

Not saying all countries are guilty...just wondering why they would ignore such criminal behavior....and several countries have allowed the flights, and some have allowed the secret prisons.

[Ahpook]

21. That's the only reason i can come up with as well.

They are all guilty in some way and got blackmailed to shut it up?

It is maddening knowing just a handful of these people can get over on a world that wants peace.

I don't get it, i do not fucking get it....

Perfect tune? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQcNdZCNJTk&feature=related

[timtom]

16. Actually, it's not enough!

[Solly Mack]

17. I agree

[wininnov]

22. Make the choice

As much as I would like to see it happen, the choice will be between settling
old scores or starting to right the wrongs of the past eight years with a positive
agenda. My guess is Obama will opt for the positive.

But just like Kissinger, this crew will have to be careful about which countries they
travel to in the future. It won't matter for the brush cutter but maybe for
some of the others it will be some small price they will have to pay for the
death and devastation they have brought to this country and the world

[Solly Mack]

25. If justice is defined as settling old scores, then we should open the prisons

and disband the courts. If you're willing to allow an executive that tortures people such a free pass, then there should be no problem giving the same free pass to all those who commit crimes. I, myself, am not of the mind that somehow the crimes of government are different or worthy of exception.

Righting the wrongs INCLUDES accountability...because a country willing to allow government to get away with torture isn't a country trying to right any wrongs and there's for damn sure nothing positive about that.

The idea that the prosecution of a criminal government is somehow worse than the crimes of said government has to the brainchild of government.

[merh]

23. Go research who it was that actually began the policy of

extraordinary renditions as used by and expanded by bushco. Just food for thought as some wonder why nothing has been done about the illegal torture.

[Solly Mack]

26. I posted about that a long time ago. It's in my journal

I'm well aware of it.

[merh]

28. sickening, isn't it

The press has never asked Hillary what her views are regarding torture. Obama has said that he considers all torture illegal and will not allow it, will not out source it. The power struggle going on right now is amazing and is, in part, tied to torture and the misdeeds of this admin.

[Solly Mack]

29. It is indeed. I agree - about the power struggle

being tied to the torture and misdeeds of Bush Inc.

and that is truly sickening

[mdmc]

24. Unless the crime hurt corporations

there will be no trial. Pols don't diss their pimp daddies

[Solly Mack]

27. Pretty much the size of it

[pleah]

30. I'm not just asking, hell I'm demanding that they be tried for

their crimes! And no it is not to much to ask!

[Solly Mack]

31. I don't think it is either

Still, I get the feeling many in government do think it is...