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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:24 PM Original message |
"Hero" John McCain as Phony and Collaborator: What Really Happened When He Was a POW? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think his time as a POW should be off limits. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Subject Is Not Off Limits Among Us |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. It's entirely possible it affected him mentally - how could it not? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. It is part of McCain's life. It is part of his personality. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Those parts of his personality are apparent now. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
127. Nothing is off limits to the Republicans! |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
55. That is your opinion and your opinion only |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
32. I'm not part of your "us". In fact, it's damn presumptious of you to make any declarations |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
60. You're Participating In This Discussion |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Pfffft. Lame sophistry. (nt) |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
111. BBI, |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
76. Exactly. And the OP is the same one spamming DU with all the pro-Chinese-government threads |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. You Haven't Seen Any Pro-China Government Threads On DU |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. You have absolutely no standing to "suggest" to ANYONE where they should post. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Still Can't Find Those Bogus Links? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I already know that you love your little semantic games. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. The "Discussion " With You Is Closed |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Oh noes! Not that! |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. Discussion? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. The CIA Funded The Dalai Lama .... Period! Case Closed! |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Right .A book review is definitive proof. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Oh dear God! |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
114. Funny- I saw them, too! |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Using it would be counterproductive n/t |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
66. Your correct |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I'll admit to having only hazy recollections of the debate around this... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. I agree |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. ...yup... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. WIth you on all points. nt |
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Captain Angry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. McCain has plenty of history to go after. |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Sounds like your concerned about |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. I would view the raping of a child in a different light - no pass on that. |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You can google it. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I just read 3 hit pieces on McCain- |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I'm not dragging it up. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I would have thought hit pieces would have been where I would |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
73. Plus, Alexander Cockburn I think is a bit strange if I am remembering him correctly. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Cockburn Is Strange???? Perhaps You Meant McCain |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. good one. On Cockburn, I think I read somewhere that he is a bit |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. I think his time as a POW SHOULD be a valid topic insofar as torture goes. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. Only if he's not using it for shameless self promotion n/t |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
57. I agree. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
59. The guy turned on his country and violated every basic tenet of what a |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I wonder how Jim Webb and John Kerry would respond to this, |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Why would anyone with two active, living brain cells put those two in the |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
92. May I quote you? |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 05:04 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Yeah, quote this too. They're doing it again. That old excuse "I was just |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
128. Well, exactly. |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. My view on all of this kind of stuff is |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
126. Hello, what about what THEY did to John Kerry? |
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DAGDA56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. I mentioned in another post that a question George S. should ask Senator McCain... |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. yes, by all means... |
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DAGDA56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I'm not saying you or I have to do it...but do you really think... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
129. And then win the election |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. "does torture work to provide any useful information...if so, what did you tell the Viet Cong?" |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
103. On a small pedantic point, McCain did not tell anything to the VIet Cong |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
130. I don't think it damages us with the horrific voters out there |
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dano81818 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
6. well, the first part of the author's name is certainly accurate.... |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. Complete bullshit |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
13. McCain's a nut case, but I don't think we need to go here to prove it. The probability of |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 02:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
44. You state it perfectly and concisely, VI -- |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
67. The "blowback" is just not worth it. |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
94. I agree |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
131. Why didn't that apply to them when they did it to Kerry? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. Hillary and Obama are both phony! We are so screwed! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Y'all fell for it! So sad and so bad! |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. Pretty low. |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
17. "When you can take the hot lead enema," said Lenny Bruce . . . |
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mth44sc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
18. What happened to him them |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. I hate to see anybody get swiftboated. This is shit. |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
22. We can win without digging up this stuff. |
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SquireJons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
23. Depends on what he did as a POW |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I agree |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
45. "we'll just send email forwards out or along" |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
91. there is plenty, I agree |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. It's not important. There's plenty of other stuff to lay at his feet. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Of course he collaborated with the enemy, that's what torture is for. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
28. Complete bullshit. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
30. That's the worst idea I've heard all week. nm |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
35. Dems shouldn't use this stuff... |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:03 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Those guys are some of the worst slime balls on the planet |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
99. Ted Sampley is a follower of Lyndon LaRouche. |
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bush_equals_mladic (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
38. More dangerous than Bush? |
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progressive_realist (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
39. I am not OK with using this line of attack. |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. After what the Swift Boaters did to Kerry, & the horrible campaign Saxy Chambliss ran |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
40. descending to the level of the swiftboaters is folly imo |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
46. Yeah, I wouldn't swift boat McCain they way the Republicans are going to |
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dommyluc (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
48. Turnabout |
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dommyluc (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. And BTW |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I totally agree!!!!!!!!! |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Because it doesn't work that way |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
52. This stinks. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
108. That's what this OP is famous for. |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
56. No fan of McLame, but don't go here... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
58. Hanoi Hilton Vets For The Truth |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
78. The appropriate 527 would be "Pot-stirrers for obfuscation and disarray". (nt) |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
63. The real issue may be whether McCain has a form of PTSD |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Yes - and we can highlight his questionable mental stability |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
64. A bad move to use this line of attack |
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indypaul (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
65. I am more concerned abut reports that |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
68. If McCain keeps bringing up his POW experience like a badge of honor |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Senator Thad Cochran (R-Ms) McCain In Oval Office "Sends a cold chill down my spine" |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
77. You're a total freak to try to bring this up. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. McCain Was Not A Vietnam War Hero |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. Get over it. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
79. Using this method of attack will only bring him sympathy. There are |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
81. delete |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
82. Yeah, this is an election tactic that will swing the undecideds... |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
86. What is the first duty of a captured officer? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
90. Who among us wouldn't crack and beg for mercy? I detest McCain and all he |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. What Might Cause The Nutcase To Crack At A Presidential Debate |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-20-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. I agree...debates will not be a pretty picture. But it's now...living in the NOW that must be |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Senator Bob Smith: McCain's "temper would place this country at risk " |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
101. total bullshit. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
105. A-Ha! Mr. " The Tibetian Taliban are at work, again" |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
119. Still Can't Figure Out Why You Disagree With Posts? |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Ha! You have one great advantage here, |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. "how did your threads turn out?" |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #121 |
122. You're welcome! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. "What's the consensus on this thread?" YIKES! |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Wow- you REALLY don't want to answer that, do you? |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
107. ----- |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. That's a lovely painting! |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Hi Scarletwoman! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Thank you for the tip about John Bauer! |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. You're very welcome, dear lady! |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. We are like Madeline, |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Yep! |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
109. I'm never going to attack what happened to anyone when they were a POW. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
110. Cockburn can go to hell and take Counterpunch with him. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
123. I'm no fan of McSame. However, this is too low for me and many others. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-22-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
132. Swiftboating McCain will cause a backlash... |
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