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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:00 PM
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Buchanan vs Rev Wright (Maher was right)
Last night on Maher's HBO show he brought up this comment by Pat Buchanan...(link..http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969)

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.


Just where the fuck is the outrage and media coverage over this guy?
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:04 PM
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1. I think the same levels of outrage and coverage would be there
If Buchanan were a senior adviser to Hillary's campaign, and had been a close personal friend of hers for 20 years. As it is, there is plenty of outrage, but the majority of Americans recognize that Buchanan's nothing more than a has-been fringe wacko, and they've heard him spew this crap for decades so it's not exactly breaking news that he's a racist scumbag.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:17 PM
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2. Buchanan vs Rev Wright (Maher was right)
Last night on Maher's HBO show he brought up this comment by Pat Buchanan...(link..http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=969)

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.


At first I thought Maher was joking a bit, then I did the search for Buchanan's words. Just where the fuck is the outrage and media coverage over this guy?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:18 PM
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3. Maher was discussing the Double Standard.....
and that is why Buchanan's words are in fact welcomed on each show on which he appears, which are many.

Hence the reason why Maher stated is exactly correct.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:36 PM
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12. Yep -it's a fundamental truth about the corporate media
How often was Falwell given "opportunities" to spew his irrational and vile invective?

It's just fine with the CEO's and senior news editors provided that it's in support of far right policies and viewpoints- but woe to the person who goes over the top and dares to challenge the "orthodoxy."
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:18 PM
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4. Wright reached maybe 6000 people a week in his church
How many hundreds of thousands does Buchanan reach a week via the airwaves and in print? And yet Buchanan hasn't "enjoyed" the dissection that Wright has. It's high time he get broken down like a complex sentence in an English class.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:18 PM
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5. Write to MSNBC with outrage linking back to the blog.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:18 PM
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6. Many more whites got/get welfare than blacks.
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 02:12 PM by tabasco
WTF is he talking about? "{D}esigned to bring the African-American community into the mainstream."

Buchanan is what I refer to as a piece of human garbage.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:18 PM
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7. Buchanan is on MSNBC almost 24/7 it seems and the McLaughlin Group
as well. I've emailed MSNBC a couple of times, for whatever it's worth. Pat Buchanan is probably the last person on the planet I'd turn to for objective, race-related punditry.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:20 PM
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10. MSNBC gets an email from me every day...
every damn day. Friday I noted that Joe S. was not
quite as reactive as usual.... the Obama bashing
was at a minimum, but I doubt it had anything
to do with the network listening to viewers....
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:18 PM
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8. Well it sounds accurate, what's the problem? There is nothing
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 02:24 PM by bellasgrams
inflamatory in stating the truth. It is not putting anyone down. I've seen many of these programs put in place during my life time. How can that be disputed? Blacks do have some advantages over white males in schools and the work place. I don't know the statistics on welfare, there's far to many on it. Before the current economic problems, alot of the white people on welfare was due to drugs, and I don't know how to solve that problem, but it's terrible their children are getting the brunt of it.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:41 PM
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16. Hä?
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 08:42 PM by Karenina
Noch mal, bitte. (Translation: please repeat and elaborate, I'm not sure I've understood you correctly).
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:20 PM
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9. I guess you missed the threads that had us screaming about this last weekend.
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 02:20 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 06:07 PM
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13. Yes, I did...and that shows a large part of the problem...
I had not even heard of this until last night.

It's like today, an over week old issue of Time came today and in it was the death noticed for former Sen. Howard Metzenbaum. I didn't even know he passed away (on Mar 12).

And I can guarantee I read more news than a lot of people.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 09:16 AM
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17. Before I joined DU right after the 2004 election, I used to come here when looking for the news. DU
is still my source for news as much of what should reported never reaches the front pages of major pages, nor makes the airwaves/cables. I log on to DU several times a day.

I finally got to watch Real Time last night, and I loved Tavis' term for Buchanan, Racial Arsonist.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:26 PM
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11. There's plenty of outrage. It's just not being aired on the teevee.
Lots of us wrote/called/faxed our outrage to M$NBC last weekend. How did M$NBC respond? They gave that racist POS more face time. He seems to be all over M$NBC now. From Mourning Joe to whatever Dan Abrams' show is called. I've concluded that M$NBC approves of the message Pat is sending, otherwise they'd reject, denounce, and fire his ass.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 06:11 PM
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14. Not necessarily
I was at Ellis Island the other day and learned an interesting thing. The US got only 5.8% of the slaves.

The rest went to the Caribbean and Brazil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#Brazil

Look at that link and we find that Brazil had no Civil War. Reason: They had the most slaves. The slaves were so great in number that they overcame the masters without a major war.

I'm thinking it would be better to be descended from a Caribbean or Brazilian slave. They came from a greater place of power.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 06:28 PM
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15. Pitchfork Pat Cost The GOOP The '92 Elections
His xenophobic, racist diatribe at the '92 RNC all but dismissed him a a real politial leader and turned off many moderates. How ironic that his words seem tame compared to the hate-filled rhetoric that spews out of most AM radios.

There's a reason Buchanan is brought on these shows...he gets a reaction and that's all telepunditry is about. There's no need to be factual...in fact, spin is encouraged and the more "over-the-top" the better. The corporates claim this is "balance"...and a game they define and play to suit whatever agenda they want out on the air. Economic controversies don't get ratings...nor does discussing an illegal and immoral invasion...but pull out the race card, immigration or Clinton's cock and it's beat like an old horse.

Buchanan is treated like both an elder statesman of punditry and like someone's crazy uncle. I hear often how "a sweetheart" the dude is (I've even heard Rachel Maddow say this) and this is supposed to innoculate his verbose verbage. Also he was one of the first of the cable spewers and his longevity is somehow equated with "credibility".

The racism over Reverend Wright's statements have given free reign for every bigot to crawl out from under their hate radio rocks and play the "fear the black man" card. One hopes a majority if Americans are beyond this and the polls are showing this may be the case. But we will have to endure the noisy minority...and confront them where necessary.
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