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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:11 PM Original message |
Healthcare: How Much Would You Be Willing To Pay? |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. I would have no problem with this system at all |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Some do |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. What about retired people |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. young, old and poor exempt from paying |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. They're covered too |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Sure beats what we in the states have! |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. The govt could raise .... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. We're midway on that one |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. Most Americans hear the word "tax" and immediately think "they're taking my money" |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Americans are weird about tax |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
40. Well . . . |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Out-of-pocket costs |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. That's the odd thing about it |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. "I don't want the government telling me what doctors I can see" |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I know ... it doesn't make sense |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. What's really funny about that line... |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You ask anyone opposed to it and they'll give you one of two answers: |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. My British girlfriend I used to have would bitch and moan about the system |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Moaning is the British hobby |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
59. I felt real at home in England! |
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Dirty Hippie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. I currently pay |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. Maybe your government is run BY the people, FOR the people... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Not exactly |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. WOW! Thats pretty cool, so the people can actually voice their... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Yep |
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dazzlerazzle (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. costs of covering everyone |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Making a decent living anyway |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. The idea that the US doesn't have universal health care is a myth... |
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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
55. your wrong |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. I would be willing to pay as much as it would take to make sure EVERYONE was |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Depends on which model you want to follow |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
19. Companies have paid for insurance |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Some companies pay, some don't pay anything at all. |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. It may not be perfect but so is not being able to get health care at all. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
51. It isn't possible to get the best treatment just by paying more for it |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. How 'bout free Med School... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. We have a similar thing here |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
27. wow, you really pay only 5-7 percent of income, that's amazing! |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Well, that's on an average income |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. Nobody seems to have an issue with spending Billions a week on a fake war. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Quite |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. we spend in 5 days in iraq, what we spend in Africa for a year. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. I make $46,000 (supposedly) this year, highest wage in my lifetime |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Of course |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. God damn. I was making $20-24,000 throughout most of my twenties |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Geez |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. And I expect the answers don't affect your rates |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yep |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
52. Euros are really nutz about their pot-smoking procedures |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. I know |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. Yes, Europe definitely does health care better. I wish we'd |
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BigDaddy44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
39. Your math is wrong |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Misunderstanding |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
48. Not one goddamn penny. We already pay more than anybody else |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. With single payer, you don't have to. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. 'Zactly. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. The only figures that need knowing |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
91. Because we're sheep. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-26-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. You're a star |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
54. U.S. healthcare is as corrupt as U.S. politics . . . |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
56. What you are saying is that we are easily manipulatable by the powers who want to ocntinue |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
58. since it is taxes that pay for it and we will pay taxes whether we get it or not, |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Some figures for you |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
60. I already pay $2500 a year for NOTHING |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Don't get me started on Blair |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Your plan probably doesn't cover mammograms or pregnancy either. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. I don't know-- |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
63. Do Europeans pay the amount we do for car insurance? |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Let me see... |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
65. Lets talk about the far from perfect par a bit more ok.. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Yes, they are but it won't happen |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. French? Canadian? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. And if you don't have health insurance here in the US, you'll wait forever. nt |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Im not saying we dont need to fix our system |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Europe and Canada have broken healthcare systems?lol |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Yes, they do.. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. You post citeless exceptions. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Look again |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I completely agree re: expanding Medicare |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Perhaps but its easier to shoot down those issues |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. I know about North Staffs, I live here |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. The concept itslef.. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Then we have little to say to each other, peace with you n/t |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. I do without MRIs because I can't afford them at $4,000 each. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. So why choose between |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. I'm not on Medicare...and that is what I pay *with* insurance. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
70. Paying a set percentage of your income isn't as progressive as I'd like. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Poor phrasing on my part |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Oh okay! |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Never a problem :) n/t |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
89. Your system sounds heavenly. |
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