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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:56 PM
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Server went down at the NYSE. May have caused the massive point drop...
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 04:10 PM by originalpckelly
That happened in only a few minutes about 1 or 1/2 hour ago.

Traders started booing the exchange when the closing bell came.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:57 PM
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1. How does the server going down...
Oh, never mind.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:58 PM
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3. Orders to sell stack up, then when the server comes back they all...
are executed at the same time. That would explain why it happened so fast.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:57 PM
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2. It was on CNN just now with the chick from the floor.
She was talking to traders and they said there was some type of major glitch in the system.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:58 PM
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4. ACTUALLY, it sounded as though the server was good news.
that guy sounded like he had tons of SELL orders he could not process.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:59 PM
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6. we'll see what after hours trading looks like once those ordered get put through.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:01 PM
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14. It's unclear whether this what came first: the server or the sell off.
Interesting.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:00 PM
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9. Oh, Well THAT'S Comforting To Know
:eyes:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:59 PM
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5. I just heard that on CNN. IF true, someone is going to be job hunting!
There's NO WAY the people who control THAT AMOUNT OF $$ will let a "glitch" go without someone getting blamed!!!!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:02 PM
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15. They were already booing. I would be surprised if we find some corpses hanging from the rafters...
by Ethernet cables.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:00 PM
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7. The traders are all booing at the stock exchange!
:rofl:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:00 PM
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10. You should have fucking seen it!
No, fucking way. These people were fucking pissed because of what happened.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:00 PM
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8. CNN.com says it was because of the Cheney scare
Dow sinks 500, claws back
Dow sinks 4 percent, broader market slumps on worries about China, thwarted attack on Cheney, durable orders.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stock tumbled across the board Tuesday, with the Dow industrials sinking more than 500 points at one point, after declining markets in China and Europe and a steep drop in durable goods orders triggered a massive selloff on Wall Street.

News that Vice President Dick Cheney was the apparent target in a Taliban suicide bombing attack in Afghanistan added to the day's worries.



http://money.cnn.com/2007/02/27/markets/markets_0300/index.htm?cnn=yes

Did they push the fear button too far?
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:01 PM
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13. it's all gonna backfire on them worse than today one of these days
I loved the boo-birds.

Push the fear, push the fear, but not that much...haha
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:07 PM
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26. Isn't it comforting to know that the fate of the entire stock market
is determined by the status of The DICK's faux black heart?

Sign me up man! Not.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:01 PM
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11. Alright! Who pulled the power plug on the 'SELL' server????
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 04:05 PM by Double T
Protection for the TOP 10% while the REST are left twisting in the wind.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:01 PM
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12. they were BOOing the NYSE leaders - who reminded me
of the foolishness in Congress during a state of the union. The leaders standing, smiling, clapping, and tons of booing traders because they - the little guys - got screwed bad, while the biggies with automated trading managed to sell off before the worst part of the crash.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:04 PM
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19. one day last year the bond traders were screaming at Bush, it was hilarious.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:02 PM
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16. Call me crazy, but shouldn't they have a few backup servers?
Electronic Capitalism rocks! :eyes:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:04 PM
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20. It may have been a terrorist attack or some other type of hacker.
They're talking about how weird it was to see it drop so fast, it never does that. That's the reason they think it was some type of error.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:23 PM
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33. Uhh, this story is some sort of red herring

The NYSE and NASDAQ have some of the most sophisticated high-availability cluster servers ever invented. Complete with synchronous cluster transactions at a distance (across the river in New Jersey somewhere).

I know, I am the inventor of 3 patents in the field of remote replication.

Wall Street got the religion in the late nineties (about HA or BC or whatever acronym you want to use)... then, after 9/11, they really went "nuts" about it, buying up optical links between the financial district and locations in Jersey and Connecticut.

I once had a Morgan Stanley team tell me that IF my software could fine grain replication to milliseconds (I actually could, to microseconds) that they would spend over $1M to acquire a license (I sold my company to a much larger outfit before I got them as a customer). They were concerned about producing a to-the-millisecond trail of buy/sell orders for their constant legal battles (any one of which could cost them well over the $1M per license amount).

Anyway, there just isn't anyway that a "server failure" could happen unless "planned" these days.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:28 PM
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36. Same deal with elections.
Unless of course relative humidity is above 80% in the polling place.

What happens if the "terraists" cut the trans-Atlantic pipe?
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:03 PM
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17. Same old crap - divert attention from real reason for drop
it's a glitch, it's a glitch - they only wish. The writing has been on the wall for a long time that the market was going to drop and big anytime.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:05 PM
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22. There was a sell off, but the hundred odd point drop in a few minutes...
was not a normal operation. Some type of error caused that. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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LEW Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:07 PM
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25. i understand completely
and still think it's a lie and diversion.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:09 PM
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28. Well, they are still saying there was a sell off, but they are...
just worried that a glitch caused that short term big drop.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:03 PM
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18. some posts are frozen due to "technical difficulties"
watch for the numbers to be corrected later on when the numbers have been sorted out. They will probably be lower if sell orders were placed on hold. They will be counted after hours.


Largest one day loss since 9/17/2001. Tomorrow should be fun
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:04 PM
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21. What about the Chinese market? Did someone pee on the power cord over there, too? NT
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:05 PM
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23. it started there yesterday, they were off by around 8%.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:08 PM
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27. I wasn't clear enough. There was a massive drop in points in only a few minutes...
and they think that was caused by a glitch. On the hand, there was already a sell off happening when that occurred.

It was pretty obvious there would be and was a sell off, but the problem is that there was a massive drop in only a few minutes. That's what caused the floor traders to do that.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:06 PM
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24. Ooops.. My Bad.... Auntie Em, Auntie Em.. it's a Twister....--Johnny
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:10 PM
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29. My sister works for the NYSE - in IT
Actually her job has nothing to do with this but I would guess it's pretty tense over there right now.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:11 PM
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30. Yeah, that has to really suck.
:wow:

Hopefully she'll avoid the mob of traders who were pissed at the closing bell.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:12 PM
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31. See what a great idea it was to privatize the NYSE?
:sarcasm:
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jumpoffdaplanet Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:21 PM
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32. Randi Rhodes wondered if it's because of the China stock dump
And if this is China's way of telling Bush to stop messing with Iran (as China heavily depends on Iranian oil).

It will be interesting to see if the media whores are ordered to stop pretending Iran is arming whoever the hell it is they are supposed to be arming in Iraq.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:30 PM
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37. So China tanked it's own market?
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 04:33 PM by ben_meyers
To send us a message? Sometimes Randi just says stuff.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:25 PM
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34. Is that the excuse they are giving ??????????????????????????
The US Market went down because of the server???

What about the rest of then planet whos market's opened earlier?????

They also went down.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:28 PM
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35. It wasnt the server that caused this
http://www.usatoday.com/money/markets/2007-02-27-wallstreet-daily_x.htm



NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks fell sharply Tuesday, joining a global stock decline sparked by growing concerns that the U.S. and Chinese economies are cooling and that U.S. stocks are about to embark on a major correction.

At the close of trading, the Dow Jones industrial average was off 415.30, or 3.3% at 12,216.96.

Broader stock indicators also fell sharply. The Standard & Poor's 500 index was down 49.81, or 3.4%, at 1399.56, and the Nasdaq composite index was down 96.65, or 3.9%, at 2407.87

A 9% slide in Chinese stocks earlier set the tone for U.S. trading, a day after investors sent Shanghai's benchmark index to a record high close.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:34 PM
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38. "Went down" - my foot
They shut it down for fear Bushco would look even worse and hyper afraid oif the cascading effecto of the basic fear that underlies the market.

Just called my broker as I always do during/after a huge correction and bought a "green" stock. Worked well after 9/11 - glad I had some spare cash that I almost spent on carpeting, but couldn't decide on a swatch. We shall see whether I live with my 1967 BROWN carpets a bit longer.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:35 PM
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39. No they were not MS Servers.
Just thought i would get that out there before the inevitable MS suxx post

IBM is also supplying Linux workstations optimized for high-resolution graphics, but consume less power. Traders will use the workstations to pipe information from the exchange floor to trading desks upstairs in real-time.

IBM's WebSphere middleware, DB2 database and Tivoli management software will power the back-end for TradeWorks. DB2, which will store as much as $14 billion in transactions per day, will run on IBM's mainframe zSeries operating system (zOS).
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:36 PM
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40. Well a "correction" was due. One man's correction
is another man's recession, stagflation, depression? It all depends on where your money was hidden.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 04:37 PM
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41. I guess thats good news
That huge drop had me worried for a bit.
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