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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:25 PM
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So if Bush and his gang of thugs attack Iran, what do we do about it?
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:27 PM by Cyrano
Take to the streets and get shot down or beaten to a pulp?

Blame the Democrats who were not consulted?

Bitch about it on DU?

Beats me.

So I repeat. If Bush and his thugs attack Iran, what do we do about it?

On edit: Firing an admiral who was totally against it should give us a big hint as to what (might be) just around the corner.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:26 PM
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1. General Strike ... shut the country down
And then demand a quick vote on impeachment
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:35 PM
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9. Bingo. Peaceful resistance to the regime. I believe that this will
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:48 PM by Malikshah
hit them where it hurts.

Strikes, peaceful protests, stopping the war machine. This will work.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:37 PM
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10. I like this response. Nationwide General Strike!
Impeachment is another idea I like...but if we hit Iran, the NGS may be our salvation from world wide retaliation. If we stayed that course, eventually the bfee would be forced from their positions of power. This may be our only card left worth playing and yes...folks will get hurt. Let us hope that day never comes. Let us hope that bush slinks off to Paraguay like a good nazi after this is all over.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:41 PM
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13. From your lips to the Great Spaghetti Monster's ears.
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:42 PM by Cyrano
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:52 PM
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16. If the FSM can get our White House back...
...I'll renounce my current lack of religion!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:26 PM
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2. Well..
What have we done so far about anything?

"Good Germans all."
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:29 PM
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3. What if they gave a war and nobody came?
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:30 PM
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5. My guess is it will be an attack in which we use "tactical" nuclear weapons.
We don't have enough available troops to actually invade Iran.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:30 PM
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4. I'm not really sure it will mater, if they do that... Cause I can tell you there will be some...
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 04:30 PM by LakeSamish706
upset countries out there and who knows what might transpire. I predict that it may very well lead to a major world war...
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:30 PM
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6. That must be a damn big corner, I have been hearing that the Iran invasion
is just around it for well over 2 years. Can you measure that corner in business hours?
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:33 PM
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7. Yeah, but this time there's a presidential election eight months away.
And BushCo controls virtually the entire American propaganda machine (i.e. the MSM).
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:34 PM
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Your right, and this Administration is not about to give up control easily. n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:53 PM
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17. You're right. And just because they haven't been able to pull it off yet, doesn't mean they don't
still want to...

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:52 PM
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15. "6 Signs U.S. May Be Headed For War In Iran" from that 'lefty rag' U.S. News & World Report
U.S. News and World Report
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/v3/css/news.css

6 Signs the U.S. May Be Headed for War in Iran

March 11, 2008 06:52 PM ET | Permanent Link

Is the United States moving toward military action with Iran?

The resignation of the top U.S. military commander for the Middle East is setting off alarms that the Bush administration is intent on using military force to stop Iran's moves toward gaining nuclear weapons. In announcing his sudden resignation today following a report on his views in Esquire, Adm. William Fallon didn't directly deny that he differs with President Bush over at least some aspects of the president's policy on Iran. For his part, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said it is "ridiculous" to think that the departure of Fallon-whose Central Command has been working on contingency plans for strikes on Iran as well as overseeing Iraq-signals that the United States is planning to go to war with Iran.

Fallon's resignation, ending a 41-year Navy career, has reignited the buzz of speculation over what the Bush administration intends to do given that its troubled, sluggish diplomatic effort has failed to slow Iran's nuclear advances. Those activities include the advancing process of uranium enrichment, a key step to producing the material necessary to fuel a bomb, though the Iranians assert the work is to produce nuclear fuel for civilian power reactors, not weapons.

Here are six developments that may have Iran as a common thread. And, if it comes to war, they may be seen as clues as to what was planned. None of them is conclusive, and each has a credible non-Iran related explanation:

1. Fallon's resignation: With the Army fully engaged in Iraq, much of the contingency planning for possible military action has fallen to the Navy, which has looked at the use of carrier-based warplanes and sea-launched missiles as the weapons to destroy Iran's air defenses and nuclear infrastructure. Centcom commands the U.S. naval forces in and near the Persian Gulf. In the aftermath of the problems with the Iraq war, there has been much discussion within the military that senior military officers should have resigned at the time when they disagreed with the White House.

2. Vice President Cheney's peace trip: Cheney, who is seen as a leading hawk on Iran, is going on what is described as a Mideast trip to try to give a boost to stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. But he has also scheduled two other stops: One, Oman, is a key military ally and logistics hub for military operations in the Persian Gulf. It also faces Iran across the narrow, vital Strait of Hormuz, the vulnerable oil transit chokepoint into and out of the Persian Gulf that Iran has threatened to blockade in the event of war. Cheney is also going to Saudi Arabia, whose support would be sought before any military action given its ability to increase oil supplies if Iran's oil is cut off. Back in March 2002, Cheney made a high-profile Mideast trip to Saudi Arabia and other nations that officials said at the time was about diplomacy toward Iraq and not war, which began a year later.

3. Israeli airstrike on Syria: Israel's airstrike deep in Syria last October was reported to have targeted a nuclear-related facility, but details have remained sketchy and some experts have been skeptical that Syria had a covert nuclear program. An alternative scenario floating in Israel and Lebanon is that the real purpose of the strike was to force Syria to switch on the targeting electronics for newly received Russian anti-aircraft defenses. The location of the strike is seen as on a likely flight path to Iran (also crossing the friendly Kurdish-controlled Northern Iraq), and knowing the electronic signatures of the defensive systems is necessary to reduce the risks for warplanes heading to targets in Iran.

4. Warships off Lebanon: Two U.S. warships took up positions off Lebanon earlier this month, replacing the USS Cole. The deployment was said to signal U.S. concern over the political stalemate in Lebanon and the influence of Syria in that country. But the United States also would want its warships in the eastern Mediterranean in the event of military action against Iran to keep Iranian ally Syria in check and to help provide air cover to Israel against Iranian missile reprisals. One of the newly deployed ships, the USS Ross, is an Aegis guided missile destroyer, a top system for defense against air attacks.

5. Israeli comments: Israeli President Shimon Peres said earlier this month that Israel will not consider unilateral action to stop Iran from getting a nuclear bomb. In the past, though, Israeli officials have quite consistently said they were prepared to act alone -- if that becomes necessary -- to ensure that Iran does not cross a nuclear weapons threshold. Was Peres speaking for himself, or has President Bush given the Israelis an assurance that they won't have to act alone?

- snip -

Defense Secretary Gates said that Fallon, 63, asked for permission to retire. Gates said that the decision, effective March 31, was entirely Fallon's and that Gates believed it was "the right thing to do." In Esquire, an article on Fallon portrayed him as opposed to President Bush's Iran policy and said he was a lone voice against taking military action to stop the Iranian nuclear program. In his statement, Fallon said he agreed with the president's "policy objectives" but was silent on whether he opposed aspects of the president's plans. "Recent press reports suggesting a disconnect between my views and the president's policy objectives have become a distraction at a critical time and hamper efforts in the Centcom region," Fallon, said in the statement issued by Centcom headquarters in Tampa, Fla. "And although I don't believe there have ever been any differences about the objectives of our policy in the Central Command area of responsibility, the simple perception that there is makes it difficult for me to effectively serve America's interests there," he said. Gates announced that Fallon's top deputy, Army Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey, will take over temporarily when Fallon leaves. A permanent successor, requiring nomination by the president and confirmation by the Senate, might not be designated in the near term.

-Terry Atlas
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 05:01 PM
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18. Scary stuff, Hissyspit. Thanks for your informed, well-documented post.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:34 PM
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8. get into the way back machine
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6909

I have no idea how reliable Madsen is, but it is telling that according to Lindorff, several of the airmen started dying off within a few weeks.

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/lindorff/034

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2007/112107Lindorff.shtml

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/lindorff/032

http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=ask_this.view&askthisid=295


According to Lindorff and ex-assistant sec. of defense Coyle, there is no way the aug 30th nuke incident was a mistake. According to Madsen (who quotes unnamed sources, so I don't know his reliability) this was an averted nuclear strike on Iran planned to coincide with the Israeli raid on Syria on Sept 6th.

If this is true, if not for the mutiny in the airforce and intelligence agencies we may already be at war with Iran. I have read other journalists say things along the line that 'the pentagon is the most effective anti-war movement in america right now', things along those lines. Basically saying that the pentagon is working to reign in the nutty neocons who the dems are terrified to impeach.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:38 PM
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11.  I have no idea what we will be able to do
One thing that does trouble me is that this issue and talk about attacking Iran does not end . To me this means it is quite possible that it will happen other wise it would go away and now it just gets worse .

Jeff Farias had Scott Ritter on this week I think tuesday and Scott spelled it out and what he did say does sound like the attack may be in the works this time .

He said Fallon would retire if he knew there will be an attack and that right now targets are updated daily and sometimes hourly which means this is serious business .
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:48 PM
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14. Scott Ritter was right about Iraq. He's a totally credible source.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 04:40 PM
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12. Ask Pelosi & Reid this.....
Impeachment should of been the #1 priortiy long ago.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 05:24 PM
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19. Hey, We're Busy Fighting Amongst Ourselves
Who has time to notice another war?
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