10,000 Republican voters voted against Kucinich in Dem. Primary

[annabanana]

Check out his video here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x103049

This is massive voter fraud and has to be dealt with, State by State.

[L. Coyote]

1. This is common strategy in many states, and it works well.

I recall an independent candidate for governor would be voted in by Dems in the R primary. Dems crossed over knowing the independent, with their votes, could beat the party nominee but would lose the general election. It really worked nicely!

This is what the Rs are doing by voting for Clinton. However, they are getting a butt-kicking either way, so their efforts are otherwise directed. The expectation is probably to divide the Dems, not to actually alter the outcome. They lack that voting power.

[SoCalDem]

2. That's why open primaries suck.. Ask Cynthia mcKinney

Parties should be able to choose their own candidates..and if Independents want to vote, they should be required to register 6 months (at least) before an election..

Elections are not surprise parties.

[mod mom]

3. Yep, "American Blackout" covered this blatant practice. I don't understand why Dems

aren't bothered by it. Do they really think HRC will win them over REALLY by the General? Don't they want a victory in November? or is sticking to their guns more important?

? What might have actually happened in Ohio and Texas? Tin foil hat?
? Clip:
: "Rush, I understand that the Rush Limbaugh audience is mobilizing in Texas for Hillary. Am I hearing that right?"

: "I don't know if the audience is mobilizing or not. I am urging people — I am using a phrase — the Republicans — our nominee is chosen. It's John McCain.

Texas is open. And I want Hillary to stay in this, Laura. This is too good a soap opera. We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically, and it's obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it and don't have the stomach for it.

As you probably know, we're getting all kinds of memos from the RNC saying not to be critical there. Mark MacKinnon of McCain's campaign says he'll quit if they get critical over Obama.

This is the presidency of the United States you're talking about. I want our party to win. I want the Democrats to lose. They're in the midst of tearing themselves apart right now. It is fascinating to watch, and it's all going to stop if Hillary loses.

So yes, I'm asking to cross over and, if they can stomach it — I know it's a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton — but it will sustain this soap opera, and it's something I think we need. It would be fun, too."

http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=609&Itemid=113

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

4. I used to like an open primary...

because it allowed maximum participation.

But in rethinking the whole idea, why should the opinions of people who rarely vote at all, count the same as the votes of people get out and work their ass off for the party and its candidates? Forget about those who are Republicans crossing over for the purpose of causing mischief -- why should anybody be allowed to just show up and have their opinion count? I'm not talking about the General Election here, I'm talking about an organization electing its own officers. Can I just "show up" at a meeting of any other organization with an expectation that I can vote for its officers?

In Ohio (where I used to live and was a Precinct Executive) I was elected to my position by Democratic voters in the Primary Election. Why should Republicans and other "one-time only" voters be allowed to weigh in on this issue? This is party business, and if you're not a card-carrying member of the party, then you shouldn't be voting.

[SoCalDem]

5. It's like inviting strangers to your kid's birthday party

strangers who show up present-less and just gobble the cake & ice cream

They'd prefer their own friends at their party

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

9. Exactly...

I really don't mean to sound elitist, but not everybody should get a seat at the table when it comes to the party's process of nominating its candidates.

I think I like a caucus system. If you want to take participate, then you have to be willing to commit several hours of your time to being part of the process. I would think that caucuses pretty much preclude Republicans from showing up -- you'd have to be awfully ballsy to do something like that.

[formercia]

6. and Dennis still won.

November is going to be interesting.

[zanne]

7. The questions is; Who did they vote for? nt

[undeterred]

10. good question

In Texas it was Hillary Clinton. But there are reports that earlier on the right wingers were telling people to vote for Obama. Which gets confusing, because some Republicans actually like Obama. Republicans have this idea that Hillary is uber-liberal, which is strange, because Democrats see her as more to the center than Obama. Its all very strange.

[Irishonly]

8. I Wish It Were Fraud

bit it isn't. My deep mistrust of the republicans runs deep. I have problems with them voting in democratic primaries which isn't a good thing. I am sure there are thousands of republicans fed up and want to see change. My problem is there is no way to know. Personally I would like to see national primaries but unless we completely change how elections are run it won't happen. Lesser known candidates wouldn't get any coverage. The MSM would have to change also and there's about as much of a chance of that as there is snowing in Hades.