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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:24 AM
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Fighting Back: How to defeat the corruption of Big Media, and those hiding behind it!
Sometimes it seems that we are facing a hopeless situation regarding the government moving towards endless war, martial law, and tyranny that we cannot avoid or stop… A slow and inevitable slide towards fascism and the end of Liberty. I do not accept this. It is self-defeating, and simply wrong… Nothing here is inevitable, all it will take from us to turn this thing around is the will to succeed, and the effort to make our fellows aware of what has happening at a grass-roots level…. Changing one mind at a time. For we must all now examine this hard Truth: As long as we have a controlled mainstream media, the United States is no longer a free country.



What are we talking about here? The utter control of our mainstream media, much like that of a totalitarian state’s. The slow decline of our Liberties and our Constitutional Rights. The undermining and corrupting of our government and way of life. Perhaps even our eventual enslavement in one form or another. We are talking about the lying-to and brain-washing of the American people to an extent that Hitler and Goebbels only dreamed of: The “dumbing-down” and wholesale manipulation of an entire nation.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=6256
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:33 AM
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1. One of the most important issues of our day...imo
Kicked and Recommended.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:41 AM
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2. If we cannot unite sufficiently
to conduct a civil primary contest, then we'll NEVER defeat the corporatist msm. They own us; we ALLOW them to.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:01 AM
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3. Kicked onto the "Greatest" Page
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:15 PM
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4. I'm conflicted about this piece...
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 01:18 PM by Psyop Samurai
It's interesting to witness the theory of a grass-roots truth movement being articulated and disseminated. However, while I don't wish to disparage the efforts of those who struggle and have struggled valiantly, I do not share the autor's optimism. The pace is glacial (moreso than the glaciers themselves these days), and while tiny inroads are made over a period of years, whole generations die out and new ones born to be manipulated before anything approximating "truth" takes sufficient root. It appears to have been this way for a very long time, and I see no indications of the state of things changing sufficient to inspire optimism.

It seems the most we can aspire to in this life is not truth, but the least pernicious fiction that does not fundamentally challenge the psychopaths in control. To those who would protest such a statement, I agree it is a pathetically low aspiration, and goes against all conscience. But I'm not the one who decided on it. In fact, I resisted it greatly. That struggle, however, does not change the larger reality. It doesn't change the timelines. It doesn't change the numbers.

In short, the theory of a grass-roots truth movement, while completely rational, assumes facts not in evidence. People (as in anything even remotely approaching a critical mass) do not want to know. And even knowing, will not change one iota. Therefor, at least for the foreseeable future, we are left with advancing the least pernicious fiction, knowing we are powerless before wholesale enslavement and murder.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 PM
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5. Broadcast all over the Internet.
Use sites like Digg and Reddit, and our sites like DU, Daily Kos and such.

They own the old media: the newspapers, TV and radio.

We own the Internet. And people are starting to realize they get something that's a lot closer to the truth on the Web than they can by watching FOX or CNN.

Our voice is here. Everyone can participate, and anyone who bullshits here on the web gets called out for it.

I'm personally convinced that one of the things that's kept us alive and fighting despite all the GOP fascists have done is the Internet. They can't silence us here.
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 02:09 PM
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6. Wonder why this article on such an urgent matter is not being discussed here?
I joined DU about the same time you did, AC, and certainly if this OP choice of yours is an accurate representation of your own views, we see very much eye to eye on this one!

But even for those DUers who see things differently from how this article presents them or who disagree on methods for "fighting back," I'm curious about why we are not getting more posts on this thread for the sake of discussion -- simply because it IS such a crucial issue that needs addressing in a big way!

Of course, this sort of thing happens here a lot, where threads with great potential sink fast even if "recced" to the Greatest Page. I understand that. Guess I'm just curious why this one in particular hasn't drawn more posters and in-depth probing.

In my case, I didn't contribute a post in the middle of the night when I recced the OP, either, like most of the 10 others, it seems; but that was because I was falling asleep and planned to respond today after I re-read the article and followed a couple of links in it to more information from and about the writer of the piece.

Yes, that's it! Everyone else is doing this too! :)

Well, anyway, I find I'm still very interested after reading further, and I wanted to make more of the article readily available to others here (for those who aren't moved yet to click the link).

I should probably mention that I do recognize the writer is not highly polished, and that might put some folks off a bit. However, he seems intelligent and he does present his ideas clearly enough, so I feel we can see past minor syntax or punctuation errors, right?

Immediately following the excerpts you have included in the OP, here is a paragraph which made a great deal of sense to me:

These are “wild conspiracy theories”… Yet many of us here know the controlled media part at least to be quite true nonetheless. When attempting to change another’s mind on these subjects, “conspiracy” is itself an important term to cover. After all many of us know that the media and government have spent considerable time and trouble to insure the phrase “conspiracy theory” is derogatory and “auto-discounting”… So that anything coming before or after it is automatically ignored or even derided. Point this out to the person you are attempting to enlighten. Also mention the national poll of the early 90’s that listed over 90% in the U.S. believes there was a conspiracy in the Kennedy Assassination, yet no one in mainstream media has ever voiced those opinions on-air. Another tool for removing the “conspiracy” bias is the official story of who was responsible for “911”: Point out that the Bush administration’s accusations against Osama Bin Laden are nothing more than conspiracy theories in themselves (he has never been officially charged with any crimes regarding “911” by the FBI).


Oops! It mentions 911, darn. But only as a brief example of the "MSM" utterly failing to cover properly a hugely important subject that certainly merits the investigative journalism work and exposure it has NOT received.

What I'd like to know from others -- including you, AC -- regarding the point in this paragraph is if you agree with Corvus here. I have been for some time appalled and angered at just how easily people have apparently been manipulated by the media to not only avoid any deep thinking that might possibly be labeled "tin foil" but also how quick many are to taunt and dismiss others on this point.

In other words, they've not only complied, but they have joined right in, helping the media (and thus their controllers) in their dastardly efforts to humiliate everyone into avoiding publicly asking questions!

There is much more in this meaty article and regarding the background and the broader ideas of the writer which I would like to talk about, but let's see if we get any further discussion going at least on this narrower, key issue first. If not, I can take a hint. ;)

For now, at least.


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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 12:07 AM
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7. I agree with the author and with your further elaboration...
In a sense, this is the ONLY issue. It's the Orwellian nightmare which I've basically "lived" for the past five years.

As suggested in my previous post, however, I see little hope of any kind of breakthrough, or recognition reaching any kind of critical mass, at least, not in this lifetime. The consciousness simply isn't there. That is very bad news indeed, but much experience has led to that conclusion. Nonetheless, I appreciate the effort to articulate theory and a strategy for breaking through - hopefully someone will find it among the ruins.

Yes, the manipulation is a piece of cake - like taking candy from a baby. It is as you described, and worse - "they" are inside you. The underlying conditioning is very deep. I have personally been ineffective in cutting through it.

While I acknowledge that concerted strategy can make inroads, I see nothing vaguely approaching a realistic timeline for an effective transformation of consciousness. And that is what is required, nothing less. In my experience, such transformation presupposes a leap, a "looking glass" moment, if you will, beyond the conventional accrual of knowledge to which people are accustomed, and to which egos are attached.
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