Sibel Edmonds claims now tied to Valerie Plame and Brewster Jennings (UK Times)

[kpete]

for the third sunday, beginning on january 6 the uk london sunday times continues to not only scoop every u.s. news outlet on the sibel edmonds story, but also to hurl a gale-force wind at the bush house of cards...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-edmonds-claims-now-tied-to.html

January 27, 2008

Tip-off thwarted nuclear spy ring probeInsight:

Chris Gourlay, Jonathan Calvert, Joe Lauria in Washington

AN investigation into the illicit sale of American nuclear secrets was compromised by a senior official in the State Department, a former FBI employee has claimed.

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The firm, Brewster Jennings & Associates, was a front for Valerie Plame, the former CIA agent. Her public outing two years later in 2003 by White House officials became a cause célèbre.

The claims that a State Department official blew the investigation into a nuclear smuggling ring have been made by Sibel Edmonds, 38, a former Turkish language translator in the FBI’s Washington field office.

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Her latest claims relate to a number of intercepted recordings believed to have been made between the summer and autumn of 2001. At that time, foreign agents were actively attempting to acquire the West’s nuclear secrets and technology.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3257725.ece

[Marblehead]

1. DU was saying this

years ago...It had nothing to do with getting even, it was all about traitors not getting caught.

[leftchick]

2. why does Joe Wilson stick to his theory

that it was a warning to others not to cross the * administration. I always thought it was about nukes.

[mmonk]

3. One wonders

Could be a number of reasons including maintaining relationships.

[NNN0LHI]

4. It appears that Sibel was everywhere

Is that possible?

Don

[mmonk]

5. You don't have to be everywhere when

you've listened to years worth of counter intelligence taping.

[DCKit]

12. Additionally, people love to brag about what they know.

In DC, that can be some pretty heavy shit.

[Name removed]

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[SpiralHawk]

7. "Move along. There is nothing to see here. - republicon corporate media Ministry of Truthiness

"You can be sure we won't touch this story. Please stop dealing with facts, and thinking for yourselves.

"Why don't you kick back and have a nice smoke? After all, it's time for a an UPDATE on Bill Clinton and Monica's Oval Office tryst. Smirk."

- republicon corporate media Ministry of Truthiness

[Toots]

8. What if Valerie turns out to be a bad guy in this deal?

What if it turns out she was involved in sneaking secrets to the Turks. Would that mean Karl Rove would suddenly be a hero? The thought of that makes me ill.

[AntiFascist]

10. K&R, I think I read somewhere, between all the redacted material...

they may have been involved in operations selling secrets to people like Iran for plans that were faulty. This complicates the whole mess and makes it all the more difficult to parse what was really going on. It also makes for a handy excuse for people (not Plame) who were profitting off of the deals.

[AntiFascist]

11. Also, keep this in mind....

it wasn't too long ago that certain officials were making the point that Iran was at least 10 years away from developing a nuke. Suppose that they were being given secrets A, B, C, D and E in order to accelerate their technology. Suppose that A,B,C and E were correct plans, but that D was false. That makes D the key thing which becomes extremely valuable to the party developing the nuke. This becomes all the more tempting to agents holding on to the real secret D to be able to sell it for profit.

[librechik]

16. thanks, I was about to mention this

it was a complex operation, with many contradictions and layers.

[Peace Patriot]

9. Read the opening carefully. Kpete, you shouldn't have omitted para 2.

Here's the full lead:

"AN investigation into the illicit sale of American nuclear secrets was compromised by a senior official in the State Department, a former FBI employee has claimed.

"The official is said to have tipped off a foreign contact about a bogus CIA company used to investigate the sale of nuclear secrets.

"The firm, Brewster Jennings & Associates...etc."

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So, SOMEBODY ("an official") was outing Plame before the Novak outing. This may be why some Bushites used the defense that "everybody knew." THEY knew. Because they were ALREADY committing treason to protect BUSHITE illicit weapons dealings.

Oh, boy, the plot thickens.

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One of the commenters on the Times article sums up the situation nicely:

"Think about the beauty of this setup. Sell nuclear secrets to country X. Terrify the public with the ominous threat that country X will share nuclear weapons with terrorist. Attack country X to keep the 'military industrial complex' awash in money. Finally, proclaim yourself heroes for having dealt with country X."

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It's interesting that the unnamed "official" was State Department. I've often wondered about Colin Powell's role in the Plame outing. Was he not the one who carried the "top secret" memo about Plame onto AF-1 (which was flying over Africa) at the time of the outing? I'm trying to remember. At the time this came out, I thought he might have been trying to implicate - to get the goods on - top Bushites, by establishing (with concrete evidence) that they knew who she was. But we should never forget the role Colin Powell played at the UN, with his 100% pack of lies about Iraq. Some people like to think he is/was the "good guy." But I don't know. The one lie he omitted was the one about the Niger/Iraq nuke connection, but this omission may not have been because he knew it was provably false, but rather to distance himself from the plot to put it BACK into Bush's State of the Union--a mysterious development that may not be related to propagandizing Americans and the world, about Iraq, but rather to something yet more nefarious--a plot to PLANT nuclear weapons or components IN Iraq, to be "discovered" by the U.S. troops who were "hunting" for them after the invasion (notably accompanied by NYT war shill, Judith Miller).

Thus, Bush makes the accusation official, then Bushite operatives make it come true: nukes "discovered" in Iraq!

Powell is not "clean," as far as I'm concerned, until this whole matter is exposed. We don't know what part he played in any of it. And the stories making him out as the "good guy" are much to be distrusted. He may have resigned not for good reasons, but for bad ones (like Rumsfeld)--to try to hide his tracks to something. But, on the other hand, we don't know what psyops are in motion AGAINST him, if he is some sort of "good guy." And we also don't know how Bushites/NeoCons may have been operating against him in his own department.

But this news that it was a State Department "official" who outed Brewster-Jennings to illicit weapons dealers in 2001 sure rattles my tinfoil hat.

Note: I think the above outlined plot--to PLANT nukes in Iraq--if true, may be what got British weapons expert David Kelly murdered, four days after Plame was outed by Novak. Kelly surely knew something more than he told the BBC (that the Brits had "sexed up" their pre-war intelligent report). They hunted him down within government, interrogated him at a "safe house," threatened him with the Official Secrets Act, and then outed his name to the press, and sent him home without protection and, apparently, without surveillance. Plame was outed July 14, 2003. Four days later, Kelly was found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances--having bled to death all night, from a minor wrist wound, under a tree, out in the rain, near his home--on July 18, 2003. (WHERE were his watchers? Surely they were watching him!). His office and computers were searched. And, four days after that--on July 22, 2003--Novak outed the entire Brewster-Jennings network, so that, if the bad guys in foreign governments and illicit weapons networks hadn't figure out who Plame's covert agents/contacts were, they could now look for (and kill or disable) anyone with connections to the front company.

July 14, 2003: Plame outed.
July 18, 2003: Kelly found dead--his files searched.
July 22, 2003: Brewster-Jennings outed.

Tell me these things aren't related.

Also, on July 7, 2003 (while AF-1 was over Africa, and one day after Wilson's op-ed--July 6), Tony Blair was given the results of Kelly's interrogation, and was told that Kelly "could say some uncomfortable things" (Hutton report). Not "had said." COULD say. (Kelly's whistleblowing to the BBC had occurred in late May 2003). They weren't worried about what he HAD said, but about what he COULD say.

What was it?

Could be about Cheney/Rumsfeld/Pakistan nuke dealings. (Kelly was a UN weapons inspector--in Russia, and Iraq.) Could be many things. But an awful lot of evidence (including Kelly's friendship with Judith Miller) points to a specific plot regarding Iraq's weapons--something that truly shocked him. (Kelly once told another friend that, if the west invaded Iraq, "I'll be found dead in the woods"--a haunting prefiguration of his death, similar to what he wrote to Judith Miller in his last email, on July 17, 2003, expressing his concern about "the many dark actors playing games." Given Miller's "Mata Hari" role, with Libby and others, that has since been revealed, the irony of this email is seering. Did he intend it ironically? I'm not sure.)

[seemslikeadream]

13. State Department "official"

Mark Grossman






http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2771387&mesg_id=2771510

[blogslut]

14. And Grossman told Armitage...

[seemslikeadream]

15. But there is a worse journalistic sin than being scooped, and that is participating in a cover-up

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/012208a.html

For the second time in two weeks, the entire U.S. press has let itself be scooped by Rupert Murdoch's London Sunday Times on a dynamite story of criminal activities by corrupt U.S. officials promoting nuclear proliferation.


But there is a worse journalistic sin than being scooped, and that is participating in a cover-up of information that demands urgent attention from the public, the U.S. Congress and the courts.

For the last two weeks -- one could say, for years -- the major American media have been guilty of ignoring entirely the allegations of the courageous and highly credible source Sibel Edmonds, quoted in the London Times on Jan. 6, 2008, in a front-page story that was front-page news in much of the rest of the world but was not reported in a single American newspaper or network.

It is up to readers to demand that this culpable silent treatment end.

Just as important, there must be pressure by the public on congressional committee chairpersons -- in particular Rep. Henry Waxman and Sen. Patrick Leahy -- who have been sitting for years on classified sworn testimony by Edmonds -- as she reveals in the Times' new story on Sunday -- along with documentation in their possession confirming parts of her account, to hold public hearings to investigate her accusations of widespread criminal activities over several administrations that endanger national security.

They should call for open testimony under oath by Edmonds -- as she has urged for five years -- and by other FBI officials she has named to them, cited anonymously in the first Times' story.




http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_01_28/article1.html

The American Conservative


FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds spills her secrets.

by Philip Giraldi

Most Americans have never heard of Sibel Edmonds, and if the U.S. government has its way, they never will. The former FBI translator turned whistleblower tells a chilling story of corruption at Washington’s highest levels—sale of nuclear secrets, shielding of terrorist suspects, illegal arms transfers, narcotics trafficking, money laundering, espionage. She may be a first-rate fabulist, but Edmonds’s account is full of dates, places, and names. And if she is to be believed, a treasonous plot to embed moles in American military and nuclear installations and pass sensitive intelligence to Israeli, Pakistani, and Turkish sources was facilitated by figures in the upper echelons of the State and Defense Departments. Her charges could be easily confirmed or dismissed if classified government documents were made available to investigators.

But Congress has refused to act, and the Justice Department has shrouded Edmonds’s case in the state-secrets privilege, a rarely used measure so sweeping that it precludes even a closed hearing attended only by officials with top-secret security clearances. According to the Department of Justice, such an investigation “could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the foreign policy and national security of the United States.”

After five years of thwarted legal challenges and fruitless attempts to launch a congressional investigation, Sibel Edmonds is telling her story, though her defiance could land her in jail. After reading its November piece about Louai al-Sakka, an al-Qaeda terrorist who trained 9/11 hijackers in Turkey, Edmonds approached the Sunday Times of London. On Jan. 6, the Times, a Murdoch-owned paper that does not normally encourage exposés damaging to the Bush administration, featured a long article. The news quickly spread around the world, with follow-ups appearing in Israel, Europe, India, Pakistan, Turkey, and Japan—but not in the United States.

Edmonds is an ethnic Azerbaijani, born in Iran. She lived there and in Turkey until 1988, when she emigrated to the United States, where she received degrees in criminal justice and psychology from George Washington University. Nine days after 9/11, Edmonds took a job at the FBI as a Turkish and Farsi translator. She worked in the 400-person translations section of the Washington office, reviewing a backlog of material dating back to 1997 and participating in operations directed against several Turkish front groups, most notably the American Turkish Council.

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Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=344x144

[HCE SuiGeneris]

17. The truth will out! Keep this snowball rolling with K & Rs

[blogslut]

18. So, Grossman was lying?

Richard Armitage said that he found out about Valerie Plame because he saw a 2002 Memo - Bureau of Intelligence & Research Report. Marc Grossman saw the same memo, yet, according to Sibel Edmonds, Grossman knew about Brewster Jennings in 2001.