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I was beat up, handcuffed and arrested by Miami police after photographing them against their wishes

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I was beat up, handcuffed and arrested by Miami police after photographing them against their wishes
The cops slammed me to the pavement even though I offered no resistance, causing a deep abrasion on my right knee.

One cop grabbed me by the back of the head and repeatedly bashed my forehead against the sidewalk, causing abrasions and swelling to the right side of my forehead.

Another cop grabbed my right hand and bent it backwards in a 90 degree angle, causing me to scream out in pain and continued to do so even after the handcuffs were placed on me.

As I verbally protested, one cop threatened me with a taser gun if I did not stop talking.

I was charged with five counts of disobeying a police officer, one count of obstructing justice, one count of obstructing traffic, one count of disorderly conduct and one count of resisting arrest without violence.

I ended up spending 16 hours in the Miami-Dade County Jail, a rat-infested building that is more Abu Ghraib than American Grade.

I plan on suing the Miami Police Department for false arrest, excessive violence, destruction of personal property, including a $400 camera flash and medical expenses incurred as I had to go to urgent care for x-rays. At the doctor's request, I also need to get an MRI to make sure there is no internal bleeding in my skull.

Today, I will contact the Miami ACLU office about this, where I happen to be a card-carrying member.

The incident occurred Tuesday night on Biscayne Blvd and 69th Street, where I was on a journalism assignment about the transition of Biscayne Blvd from seedy motel strip to trendy urban center. I had spent the day at the Anna Nicole Smith Media Circus
and I was now switching gears towards more serious journalism. I had just finished a cell phone conversation with one of my editors about the progress I was making on this story.

After hanging up, I walked over to an area where five cops were questioning a man, threatening him with arrest for reasons that were unknown to me. The cops were standing in a gravel construction area between the road and the sidewalk. I was standing on the gravel as well, but I was about 20 yards from them. The gravel area is part of the expansion construction that has been ongoing on the Blvd, which will eventually convert the street from two lanes to four lanes.

One of the cops told me to keep walking because this was a "private matter".
I said that I will not keep walking because this is a "public street".

Within seconds, the five officer left the man they were questioning alone and came after me. One cop escorted me across the road. As I stood on the sidewalk on the opposite side of the road, the cops began surrounding me, which was when I took several more photos.

That was when they slammed me against the pavement, bashed my forehead repeatedly against the sidewalk, pulled my wrist back in an extreme unnatural position and threatened to shoot me with a taser gun.

On the arrest affidavit, the cops lied several times in order to justify their arrest. They accused me of photographing them without identifying myself, which is not true (and not even against the law as far as I know). As soon as one of the officers questioned me about taking photos, I immediately identified myself by name and stated that I was a journalist.

They accused me of stating that “I can do whatever the hell I want” when I said no such thing. I remained professional throughout the entire incident, even as I tried to remind them that I had a full legal right to photograph them.

And they accused me of standing in the middle of Biscayne Blvd while I was taking photos, obstructing traffic, which is why they had to arrest me. This is not true, as anybody familiar with the street can confirm, I would have been struck by a car within seconds.

In fact, one of the photographs I took as they approached me clearly shows that Biscayne Blvd is behind them.



It is obvious that they arrested me because they did not appreciate me taking their photos. This is a clear violation of my First Amendment rights. I plan on fighting this all the way. Wish me luck.

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   GET THIS TO KEITH OLBERMANN. K&R  helderheid   Feb-23-07 11:14 AM   #1 
   Seconded on that! Here's KO's email addy  Whoa_Nelly   Feb-23-07 11:31 AM   #26 
   Better yet send a copy of this thread to the cop station.  Maraya1969   Feb-23-07 02:40 PM   #93 
      great idea  helderheid   Feb-23-07 07:18 PM   #236 
   Good. It's important to punish the bad cops.  mainegreen   Feb-23-07 11:15 AM   #2 
   Good luck.  donco6   Feb-23-07 11:15 AM   #3 
   Is it a police state yet? Recommended.  dicksteele   Feb-23-07 11:15 AM   #4 
   yes, but most americans don't care. that's the real problem. nt  HardRocker05   Feb-23-07 03:36 PM   #127 
   Very good luck to you.  Lautremont   Feb-23-07 11:16 AM   #5 
   Give the ACLU all the photos, get eyewitnesses to back you up.  Selatius   Feb-23-07 11:16 AM   #6 
   Good Luck  Binka   Feb-23-07 11:16 AM   #7 
   I hope you nail them.  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 11:17 AM   #8 
   excellent point  barbtries   Feb-23-07 08:26 PM   #250 
   Good luck!  ceile   Feb-23-07 11:17 AM   # 
   Holy shit, Raging. I hope you are okay and your lawsuit prevails.  babylonsister   Feb-23-07 11:17 AM   #9 
   FYI - This IS Amerikan "justice"  ProudDad   Feb-23-07 07:36 PM   #241 
   Please contact the ACLU. Please.  TahitiNut   Feb-23-07 11:17 AM   #10 
   Good Luck RIM. This is a violation of your rights.  Touchdown   Feb-23-07 11:18 AM   #11 
   Greg Palast complained about being harassed for taking photos of oil refineries on the Gulf Coast --  AikidoSoul   Feb-23-07 03:20 PM   #111 
      And a friend on another board had his camera broken  Wednesdays   Feb-24-07 01:54 AM   #301 
   Oh gracious  qanda   Feb-23-07 11:18 AM   #12 
   That is terrible, just terrible. I hope you are safe and will be okay.  Sequoia   Feb-23-07 11:18 AM   #13 
   Be interesting to track down the guy in the black car  Sydnie   Feb-23-07 11:18 AM   #14 
   I think this is so beautiful  jollyreaper2112   Feb-23-07 11:18 AM   #15 
   Good god.. Well, at least there's no doubt about who was there.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 11:20 AM   #16 
   I am sorry to hear this.  peace13   Feb-23-07 11:20 AM   #17 
   K&R  agtcovert   Feb-23-07 11:22 AM   #18 
   Get the bastards! A little media attention wouldn't hurt, either.  Dangerously Amused   Feb-23-07 11:22 AM   #19 
   AFTER you talk to a lawyer:  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 11:23 AM   #20 
   Send this to Olbermann and I wish you luck with your lawsuit  LSK   Feb-23-07 11:24 AM   #21 
   Glad you're alive to report this  malaise   Feb-23-07 11:24 AM   #22 
   No kidding. The trauma of being beat up by armed people  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 11:31 AM   #25 
      It's shocking  malaise   Feb-23-07 02:35 PM   #92 
         Poor people have always gone through this kind of abuse.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 05:45 PM   #211 
   With today's penchant for the cops using video evidence to protect themselves  zbdent   Feb-23-07 11:26 AM   #23 
   It's funny how often evidence disappears when  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 11:35 AM   #31 
   Not all departments have cameras in their cars  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 02:05 PM   #84 
   First contact the ACLU, then the FBI for civil rights violations.  Dr.Phool   Feb-23-07 11:27 AM   #24 
   and don't keep  barbtries   Feb-23-07 08:30 PM   #253 
   wishing you good luck and good lawyers  ensho   Feb-23-07 11:34 AM   #27 
   chickenshit assholes, everyone of them.  PLF   Feb-23-07 11:34 AM   #28 
   Nail their asses.  swimboy   Feb-23-07 11:34 AM   #29 
   Glad to hear you're OK.  verse18   Feb-23-07 11:34 AM   #30 
   OMG! This is HUGE! K&R n/t  snappyturtle   Feb-23-07 11:36 AM   # 
   What does "disobeying a police officer" entail, though?  WinkyDink   Feb-23-07 11:36 AM   #32 
   if you enhance that photo...  grasswire   Feb-23-07 11:38 AM   #33 
   SUE EEEE!  demrabble   Feb-23-07 11:39 AM   #34 
   The things they charged you with  ninkasi   Feb-23-07 11:42 AM   #35 
   If Bush is looking for people who "hate us for our freedoms," this thread should give him a clue.  Bozita   Feb-23-07 11:49 AM   #36 
   K/R bigtime. Good Luck and go get 'em.  montanto   Feb-23-07 11:55 AM   #37 
   Have you contacted People Magazine? What did they say?  Junkdrawer   Feb-23-07 11:56 AM   #38 
   I hope we still have the right to take photos in public.  Cobalt Violet   Feb-23-07 12:03 PM   #39 
   The scum of the earth. Police run amok.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Feb-23-07 12:08 PM   #40 
   only four of them? I think your out of court settlement will be huge.  TheBaldyMan   Feb-23-07 12:09 PM   #41 
   Five  RagingInMiami   Feb-24-07 07:52 AM   #309 
      take it easy, don't get too wound up - it's bad for the blood pressure  TheBaldyMan   Feb-24-07 08:06 AM   #310 
   They need to be gone from the police force. Attacking a journalist?  tsuki   Feb-23-07 12:13 PM   #42 
   Protect and serve!  Mrspeeker   Feb-23-07 12:16 PM   #43 
   Why in gawd's name do they need five officers to question one man?  Straight Shooter   Feb-23-07 12:29 PM   #44 
   Wow talk about brown shirted thugs!  proud2Blib   Feb-23-07 12:34 PM   #45 
   Welcome to fascist Amurikkka: good luck in your fight  indepat   Feb-23-07 12:48 PM   #46 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-23-07 12:49 PM   #47 
   K & R  wicket   Feb-23-07 12:49 PM   #48 
   K&R  meldroc   Feb-23-07 12:51 PM   #49 
   If you haven't heard  vpilot   Feb-23-07 12:51 PM   #50 
   Look at those cocky assholes!  buddyhollysghost   Feb-23-07 12:52 PM   #51 
   In general, I believe everything I am told by complete strangers on the Internets.  theboss   Feb-23-07 12:52 PM   #52 
   I know Raging In Miami and I have read his posts for years.  Hissyspit   Feb-23-07 07:29 PM   #238 
      pigs count on people believing them over you  sodenoue   Feb-24-07 02:14 AM   #304 
   K&R  Seldona   Feb-23-07 12:52 PM   #53 
   No offense, but why exactly were you interfering in a situation with which  Katherine Brengle   Feb-23-07 12:53 PM   #54 
   Say what???? There are now "Free View Zones" where citizens...  Junkdrawer   Feb-23-07 01:07 PM   #56 
   The original problem was him interfering with a police matter --  Katherine Brengle   Feb-23-07 01:10 PM   #60 
      Ah... a reporter????  Junkdrawer   Feb-23-07 01:12 PM   #64 
      "but who the fuck walks up into a situation like this that has literally nothing to do with them?"  wicket   Feb-23-07 01:15 PM   #66 
      Even if he wasnt' a journalist.  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 01:18 PM   #69 
      Exactly  RagingInMiami   Feb-23-07 01:25 PM   #71 
      Amen to that  wicket   Feb-23-07 01:32 PM   #73 
      Cheers to that! Or is the rule now that only journalists connected to the event in some  MJDuncan1982   Feb-23-07 02:00 PM   #82 
      That is crazy.  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 01:16 PM   #67 
      There is no law against photographing police while they are in the line of duty  RagingInMiami   Feb-23-07 01:16 PM   #68 
      Exactly  RandiFan1290   Feb-23-07 01:37 PM   #75 
      I'm sure the cops who were  ProudDad   Feb-23-07 07:43 PM   #244 
      He was NOT interfering, he was merely standing nearby.  Shakespeare   Feb-23-07 02:18 PM   #87 
      Agreed.  Seldona   Feb-23-07 05:17 PM   #203 
      kcik  JackBeck   Feb-25-07 01:57 AM   #326 
      'splin this one to me  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 02:24 PM   #90 
      Uhm, a reporter, duh, another freelancer reporting in...  Solon   Feb-23-07 03:10 PM   #107 
      How was this "interfering"? Seriously? How?  uppityperson   Feb-23-07 04:41 PM   #179 
      It's like Frank in Blue Velvet. "Don't look at me!" smack! n/t  John Q. Citizen   Feb-23-07 05:13 PM   #201 
      You Keep Using That Word, "Interfering." I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means  Crisco   Feb-23-07 06:20 PM   #217 
      Inconceivable!  Junkdrawer   Feb-24-07 10:10 PM   #323 
      Read the constitution and remind yourself, or try to -  northofdenali   Feb-23-07 08:29 PM   #251 
      A real journalist? n/t  tsuki   Feb-23-07 08:35 PM   #257 
      I guess you are for a police state  HughMoran   Feb-23-07 09:04 PM   #265 
      "interfering"?  rman   Feb-24-07 09:33 AM   #312 
      What exactly is a police matter?  digitalterrain   Feb-24-07 09:39 PM   #322 
   Taking photographs in public is interfering?  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 01:09 PM   #58 
   A couple of years ago...  snacker   Feb-23-07 03:38 PM   #129 
   How is 20 yds. away "interfering" or "getting involved"?  Cobalt Violet   Feb-23-07 01:10 PM   #59 
   Watching what's going on on a public street is interfering?  soup   Feb-23-07 01:18 PM   #70 
   I have to disagree. A public space is a public space. If the city can videotape  MJDuncan1982   Feb-23-07 01:57 PM   #81 
   "Interfering in a situation with which you had no familiarity"?  ArbustoBuster   Feb-23-07 03:09 PM   #105 
   That is a cool picture!!!  graywarrior   Feb-23-07 09:19 PM   #270 
      Isn't it!  sammythecat   Feb-23-07 11:48 PM   #286 
   Apologists for such BS never cease to amaze me..  converted_democrat   Feb-23-07 03:37 PM   #128 
   She imediately went and posted another thread about  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 03:40 PM   #133 
      No they don't  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 03:44 PM   #135 
   Oh, brother. No, citizens. Do NOT keep an eye on what your public servents are up to...  Hissyspit   Feb-23-07 07:33 PM   #240 
   Screw that!!! Screw that!!! Screw that!!!  ProudDad   Feb-23-07 08:07 PM   #246 
   You are so in the wrong here  HughMoran   Feb-23-07 09:02 PM   #264 
   What publication are you a journalist for?  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-23-07 01:03 PM   #55 
   The link on the OP says he was on assignment for People's Mag. n/t  Junkdrawer   Feb-23-07 01:08 PM   #57 
   This assignment wasn't for People Magazine  RagingInMiami   Feb-23-07 01:14 PM   #65 
      oh man, I had to respond again,  themartyred   Feb-23-07 05:54 PM   #214 
   I am a freelancer  RagingInMiami   Feb-23-07 01:11 PM   #61 
   Wow! Thanks for posting here  Duppers   Feb-24-07 03:10 AM   #307 
      I've covered the police beat for years when I worked for daily newspapers in the Southwest  RagingInMiami   Feb-24-07 08:14 AM   #311 
   What does that have to do with anything?  shance   Feb-23-07 03:14 PM   #108 
   I live in the area and want to read/see some of his work  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-23-07 03:20 PM   #112 
   What badges are you looking for, Freddie?  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 03:48 PM   #137 
      I am curious about any local publications  Freddie Stubbs   Feb-23-07 04:19 PM   #156 
         I see. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:33 PM   #173 
   Needs to be seen by everyone  sakabatou   Feb-23-07 01:12 PM   #62 
   good luck and fight the good fight  WindRavenX   Feb-23-07 01:12 PM   #63 
   David Caruso they ain't. Sue the bastards. NT  Benhurst   Feb-23-07 01:27 PM   #72 
   Two things from the photo  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 01:34 PM   #74 
   "Damn this is why all departments should have a civil review commission that WORKS!"  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 01:54 PM   #79 
   Yes San Diego California  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 02:01 PM   #83 
      I can vouch for that... a co-worker of mine is on the review board  MindPilot   Feb-25-07 11:41 AM   #328 
   Excellent advice. n/t  Shakespeare   Feb-23-07 02:20 PM   #88 
   Rip 'em a new one, friend.  Zavulon   Feb-23-07 01:38 PM   #76 
   If the proper lawyers get involved  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 01:40 PM   #77 
   This reminds me of my favorite Stoic philosopher, Epictetus  NinetySix   Feb-23-07 01:49 PM   #78 
   Another story for those of you who don't believe we're becomming a police state.  LibInTexas   Feb-23-07 01:55 PM   #80 
   That's a great link. Thank you.  PA Democrat   Feb-23-07 03:20 PM   #110 
   I wish you the best...  lies and propaganda   Feb-23-07 02:12 PM   #85 
   Nail the bastards......There is a nasty Chief of Police there, right?  Nimrod2005   Feb-23-07 02:18 PM   #86 
   oh yeah...we're living in a free country, alright...frigging police state. eom  NotGivingUp   Feb-23-07 02:22 PM   #89 
   I know the street where you were, I agree anyone standing in the middle taking pics woul be DEAD  Nimrod2005   Feb-23-07 02:25 PM   #91 
   This is the same Police Department..  Scurrilous   Feb-23-07 02:42 PM   #94 
   Are you a member of any photographer's or journalist's associations?  progressoid   Feb-23-07 02:42 PM   #95 
   My thoughts.  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 02:48 PM   #96 
   Wrong. We are not required to relinquish our civil rights on demand. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 03:01 PM   #101 
   You Should Move To China.  jayfish   Feb-23-07 03:01 PM   #102 
   WOW!  PA Democrat   Feb-23-07 03:06 PM   #103 
   Incredible posts, huh  davekriss   Feb-23-07 10:59 PM   #282 
   20 yards is NOT inside most police  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 03:10 PM   #106 
   20 yards...exactly... 60 feet away on a busy street and he could hear their conversation?  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 03:27 PM   #114 
      He had those extendo ears that Inspector Gadget has...  Solon   Feb-23-07 03:31 PM   #119 
      God thanks for the laugh  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 03:34 PM   #124 
      Well, see, that explains it!!  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 04:05 PM   #145 
      No, he didn't claim to hear any of their conversation with the man or each other.  piedmont   Feb-23-07 03:33 PM   #123 
      Um...yeah....he did actually.  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 03:59 PM   #143 
         Like I said, happened before he was photgraphing  piedmont   Feb-23-07 04:29 PM   #168 
         No, he didn't. See #139.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:46 PM   #181 
      Where did the poster claim to hear that, AzBlue?  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 03:35 PM   #126 
      Right here:  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 03:53 PM   #139 
         "for reasons that were unknown to me"  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 03:58 PM   #142 
         Nice dance move!  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 04:10 PM   #147 
            Bullshit. You made the false assertion that the OP claimed to hear  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:16 PM   #153 
         The one cop was yelling at the top of his lungs  RagingInMiami   Feb-23-07 04:11 PM   #149 
         Just ignore it, C. Take care of yourself today.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:19 PM   #155 
         Ah, then that is different.  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 04:25 PM   #166 
            It's not "different" than the OP. It's different from your conclusions  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:31 PM   #171 
         No, he has a pair of eyes...  Solon   Feb-23-07 04:12 PM   #150 
         Where did he mention handcuffs?  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 04:21 PM   #157 
            Why stop now? n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:22 PM   #161 
               Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-23-07 04:29 PM   #169 
                  I don't even remember the last time I had pleasure.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:34 PM   #175 
         He didn't say he heard it.  Cobalt Violet   Feb-23-07 04:14 PM   #152 
         MAYBE THEY WERE TALKING REALLY LOUD  uppityperson   Feb-23-07 04:44 PM   #180 
      Police beating people's heads against the sidewalk IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.  kineta   Feb-23-07 03:44 PM   #136 
      Where did I say it was?  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 03:55 PM   #140 
         no. you were just ignoring the important point of his post  kineta   Feb-23-07 10:56 PM   #281 
      You know what I find atrocious, you actually think he is lying...  Solon   Feb-23-07 03:52 PM   #138 
         You need to look up the word "evidence"  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 03:58 PM   #141 
         Let's see, in the photograph, I see the police vehicle accross the street...  Solon   Feb-23-07 04:08 PM   #146 
         True, there's a police vehicle across the road.  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 04:16 PM   #154 
            But you aren't taking all the facts into account, which is a basic error  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:21 PM   #158 
            To the left you say?  Solon   Feb-23-07 04:37 PM   #176 
               You missed AZBlue's point  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 04:51 PM   #188 
                  Yes, there are any number of narratives one can concoct  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:54 PM   #190 
                  please define the facts for me  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 04:59 PM   #195 
                     You'll listen to my argument? Really.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 05:10 PM   #199 
                        all fine and dandy  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 05:18 PM   #204 
                           I never said your opinions were invalid and I'd never say such a thing.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 05:23 PM   #206 
                              I'll quote you  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 06:35 PM   #220 
                                 No. And I'll quote me here:  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 06:48 PM   #225 
                                 Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-23-07 06:52 PM   #228 
                                    So kind of you to think of the freaksters.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 06:53 PM   #229 
                                    so, again you avoid stating your "facts"  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 07:15 PM   #235 
                                    Still trying to bait and still failing, I see.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 10:27 PM   #277 
                                    You seem quite concerned about making us palatable to freepers. Not a big worry on this board.  BleedingHeartPatriot   Feb-24-07 11:05 AM   #316 
                                 You should listen a little more carefully  ProudDad   Feb-23-07 08:16 PM   #247 
                  That wasn't part of the arrest though...  Solon   Feb-23-07 04:55 PM   #191 
                  There are two stories: his, and the police report  piedmont   Feb-23-07 05:50 PM   #212 
                     and how is the photo consistent with the OP story?  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 06:26 PM   #219 
                        You do know the definition of consistent, right?  piedmont   Feb-23-07 06:49 PM   #226 
                           maybe we could ask  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 06:54 PM   #230 
                              He can do what ever he pleases with them.  piedmont   Feb-23-07 07:00 PM   #233 
         That photo is evidence that the OP wasn't standing in the street  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:13 PM   #151 
         I'm not doing anything to anyone.  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 04:23 PM   #162 
            No assault. I asked a question.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:26 PM   #167 
         The last two sentences of the two-page arrest affidavit states ...  RagingInMiami   Feb-23-07 04:31 PM   #170 
            IMHO,...  jayfish   Feb-23-07 05:39 PM   #210 
         There are actually two patrol cars parked across the street in the photo.  piedmont   Feb-23-07 04:24 PM   #164 
         Didn't notice it at first...  Solon   Feb-23-07 04:47 PM   #183 
            No, it lends further support to the claim that the cops were across the street  piedmont   Feb-23-07 04:49 PM   #184 
         Very apparent  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 04:31 PM   #172 
            No, but then I don't have years of good experience with Faux  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:39 PM   #178 
               I see  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 04:54 PM   #189 
                  I am convinced that I need to bring all of my experience to bear  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:56 PM   #193 
   Great post!!  AZBlue   Feb-23-07 03:24 PM   #113 
   Taking pictures from 20 yards is NOT interference  tkmorris   Feb-23-07 03:32 PM   #120 
   Having worked in the streets  nadinbrzezinski   Feb-23-07 03:33 PM   #122 
   It is neither logic nor sanity to give up your civil rights just because  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:24 PM   #163 
   Yeah, we are all for human rights & freedom  HughMoran   Feb-23-07 09:16 PM   #268 
   You seem to have no clue about Police matters...  Solon   Feb-23-07 03:30 PM   #116 
   This post is a whole lot of...  piedmont   Feb-23-07 03:30 PM   #117 
   I don't think you are right  AbbyR   Feb-23-07 04:10 PM   #148 
   Thanks,,,and  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 04:47 PM   #182 
   Did you read the OP? n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 04:49 PM   #185 
   Can you walk up to 60 ft away and watch or listen?  uppityperson   Feb-23-07 04:58 PM   #194 
   sure, you can  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 05:02 PM   # 
   Stick to what the OP said instead of making up straw-men  piedmont   Feb-23-07 05:02 PM   #197 
   and you know this because?  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 05:13 PM   #202 
      So the "walk right up" part is the onlt bit of your strawman you'll defend?  piedmont   Feb-23-07 05:37 PM   #207 
         so the "60 feet" is your total argument?  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 06:25 PM   #218 
            Actually, I don't believe he needed to be 60 feet from them to not interfere  piedmont   Feb-23-07 06:38 PM   #221 
               "Hey, I'm not the one making up stuff that wasn't in the OP."  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 06:50 PM   #227 
                  Right. I'm taking RaginginMiami's word on it instead of making up things that he never said.  piedmont   Feb-23-07 06:59 PM   #232 
                     so when the shrub  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 07:20 PM   #237 
                        Uh, just 'cause I'm willing to believe RaginginMiami doesn't mean I believe anyone  piedmont   Feb-24-07 12:13 AM   #287 
   I'm really not trying to argue with you  AbbyR   Feb-23-07 06:06 PM   #215 
      not arguing with you either  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 06:47 PM   #224 
         Dude, I could have been six feet from the cops and I still would not have been breaking the law  RagingInMiami   Feb-24-07 01:08 AM   #294 
            Oh, snap! LOL, Raging!  BleedingHeartPatriot   Feb-24-07 11:12 AM   #318 
   Good response  HughMoran   Feb-23-07 09:19 PM   #271 
   Wrong.  uppityperson   Feb-23-07 04:50 PM   #186 
   if it was 60 feet.... remember... if it was... n/t  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 04:56 PM   #192 
      OK, what if it was 60 ft? And, if not, #1 still applies.  uppityperson   Feb-23-07 05:01 PM   #196 
   60 feet is a safety zone? What a load of shit  Little Wing   Feb-23-07 05:03 PM   #198 
   two points...  sojourner   Feb-23-07 06:45 PM   #223 
   You say "We all get along fine" and then you give a bunch of examples of how you DO NOT get along  Hissyspit   Feb-23-07 07:38 PM   #242 
   what I said was  Bushies gotta go   Feb-23-07 09:17 PM   #269 
      Their program includes bodily injuries to a man with a camera?  btmlndfrmr   Feb-23-07 09:47 PM   #273 
   You have the right to be uncritical of the police BUT  intaglio   Feb-23-07 08:31 PM   #254 
   Whadda crocka chickenshit bullshit.  Jim Sagle   Feb-23-07 08:51 PM   #259 
   The line between the good guys and the bad guys get more blurred every day.  lpbk2713   Feb-23-07 02:51 PM   #97 
   In addition to my PM to you with some legal advice, I add this.  Divernan   Feb-23-07 02:52 PM   #98 
   AND buddy up with someone who can help you get that done.  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 02:59 PM   #99 
   It sounds as though you witnessed something that they didn't want seen  me b zola   Feb-23-07 03:00 PM   #100 
   Aw, man! I hope you are ok and that no further harassment enuses  GreenPartyVoter   Feb-23-07 03:08 PM   #104 
   k&r  Swamp Rat   Feb-23-07 03:19 PM   #109 
   Good luck man.  geomon666   Feb-23-07 03:30 PM   #115 
   Land of the free? Home of the brave? Has martial law been declared in Miami?  IWantAChange   Feb-23-07 03:30 PM   #118 
   You have to remember, that this was the police department that took potshots...  Solon   Feb-23-07 03:35 PM   #125 
   Take them and the fascist Miami dept to court  Malikshah   Feb-23-07 03:33 PM   #121 
   Dude, glad your somewhat OK...  Solon   Feb-23-07 03:38 PM   #130 
   Scum like that tarnish the reputation of all cops.  seawolf   Feb-23-07 03:39 PM   #131 
   They do and should be drummed out of the cop business  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 03:43 PM   #134 
   Goddamned Cops!  chefgirl   Feb-23-07 03:39 PM   #132 
   Oh, man, Raging. I hope you are okay and successful with your lawsuit. Keep us updated.  mnhtnbb   Feb-23-07 04:02 PM   #144 
   Miami was where the cops beat up the FTAA/free-trade protestors  TheBorealAvenger   Feb-23-07 04:22 PM   #159 
   If that's what happened, sue their asses off.  BullGooseLoony   Feb-23-07 04:22 PM   #160 
   Definite Agenda  Madspirit   Feb-23-07 04:25 PM   #165 
   Well, the law is pretty clear on this:  impeachdubya   Feb-23-07 04:34 PM   #174 
   If some people had there way that would be the law.  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 05:18 PM   #205 
      If we allow them to *act* as if it is the law, what is the difference?  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 05:51 PM   #213 
         Agreed.  ThomCat   Feb-23-07 06:19 PM   #216 
         you took the words right outta my mouth  sojourner   Feb-23-07 06:55 PM   #231 
   Assholes  MilesColtrane   Feb-23-07 04:37 PM   #177 
   So sorry that happened to you RIM.  Cleita   Feb-23-07 04:50 PM   #187 
   K & R. Best of luck in your fight for justice. I'm so sorry your rights were violated like that. nt  nonconformist   Feb-23-07 05:12 PM   #200 
   Of COURSE Raging is telling the truth  themartyred   Feb-23-07 05:37 PM   #208 
   cops in miami  themartyred   Feb-23-07 05:39 PM   #209 
   Good Luck, Dude!  zidzi   Feb-23-07 06:41 PM   #222 
   I am glad you are out of jail and in shape to tell us about it.  peacebuzzard   Feb-23-07 07:13 PM   #234 
   Thank you four courageous stand, RIM.  Vidar   Feb-23-07 07:32 PM   #239 
   I wish you the best of luck!!!  Lost-in-FL   Feb-23-07 07:39 PM   #243 
   Cops HATE camera's and video gear. It's the freedom y'know.  Porcupine   Feb-23-07 07:53 PM   #245 
   call the aclu  barbtries   Feb-23-07 08:20 PM   #248 
   Well, as you can see, Raging, DU has your back.  northofdenali   Feb-23-07 08:26 PM   #249 
   Dont take this as if I'm saying I dont believe you  RL3AO   Feb-23-07 08:29 PM   #252 
   Sheeesh!!  Sparkly   Feb-23-07 08:33 PM   #255 
   I'm not a photographer either...  RL3AO   Feb-23-07 08:34 PM   #256 
   camera flash... car lights... other ambient light... what exactly are you suggesting? n/t  slowry   Feb-23-07 09:14 PM   #267 
   There are shadows.  Cobalt Violet   Feb-23-07 10:21 PM   #275 
   And Raging would need you to believe him why? n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-23-07 10:29 PM   #278 
   A 400.00 flash = lots of lumens ...heh n/t  btmlndfrmr   Feb-23-07 10:37 PM   #280 
   Holy Shit, Dude!  impeachdubya   Feb-24-07 01:54 AM   #299 
      Bwahahaahahahaahaha!!!  wicket   Feb-25-07 10:50 AM   #327 
   Wow! Good luck with your fight.  Janice325   Feb-23-07 08:40 PM   #258 
   one count of resisting arrest w/o violence? How does one do that?  lonestarnot   Feb-23-07 08:55 PM   #260 
   Good pic. Many people have it now.  AX10   Feb-23-07 08:55 PM   #261 
   .  Hav   Feb-23-07 08:58 PM   #262 
   Bad cops, no donut  HughMoran   Feb-23-07 09:00 PM   #263 
   do it, go forward, lawyer up and sue the bastards...  bridgit   Feb-23-07 09:09 PM   #266 
   I think they messed with the wrong guy this time.  Cobalt Violet   Feb-23-07 10:27 PM   #276 
      me too...  bridgit   Feb-24-07 11:31 AM   #320 
   Their bosses  SaneInSC   Feb-23-07 09:23 PM   #272 
   I hope you win a big law suit and they fire the cops  Time for change   Feb-23-07 10:02 PM   #274 
   Best of Luck, RaginginMiami. Sue the blue pants off the nazi thugs.  entanglement   Feb-23-07 10:37 PM   #279 
   You get 'em, Raging!  Kajsa   Feb-23-07 11:03 PM   #283 
   Justice: A Question of Race?  msedano   Feb-23-07 11:31 PM   #284 
   This whole "Post 9/11 world" mentality  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-23-07 11:33 PM   #285 
   Good Lord.....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-24-07 12:14 AM   #288 
   168 recommendations.  NYC   Feb-24-07 12:24 AM   #289 
   Those cops have fucked with the WRONG DU'er....  file83   Feb-24-07 12:24 AM   #290 
   GOD DAMN FASCIST PIGS!!  StrictlyRockers   Feb-24-07 12:38 AM   #291 
   Good luck to you. Sorry you are hurting. :(  cui bono   Feb-24-07 12:53 AM   #292 
   I support you 100%...you stood tall for freedom. K&R n/t  autorank   Feb-24-07 01:02 AM   #293 
   I'm a journalist and your are right....so sue the lieing bastards  Swagman   Feb-24-07 01:29 AM   #295 
   This probably set them off:  mmonk   Feb-24-07 01:43 AM   #296 
   You know what to do  enigmatic   Feb-24-07 01:45 AM   #297 
   Raging, you know, it's the Miami Model (CAFTA)  Synnical   Feb-24-07 01:51 AM   #298 
   You threatened their authority. Good luck and I hope you get them  Rex   Feb-24-07 01:54 AM   #300 
   Glad to see you're not letting this go.  Kurovski   Feb-24-07 02:04 AM   #302 
   Sue their ass and I hope you win.  IMModerate   Feb-24-07 02:14 AM   #303 
   Go get 'em tiger!!  kdpeters   Feb-24-07 02:25 AM   #305 
   Oh. my. gods. Raging, please be well and safe. Thank you for your work,& best of luck with your suit  Hekate   Feb-24-07 02:38 AM   #306 
   WTF?? what country is miami in?  orleans   Feb-24-07 03:48 AM   #308 
   THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!! HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?!?!  Xenotime   Feb-24-07 10:00 AM   #313 
   When did reporters become fair game?  sfexpat2000   Feb-24-07 11:29 AM   #319 
   A similar thing happened at Galveston Mardi Gras...  Lisa0825   Feb-24-07 10:57 AM   #314 
   The same thing happened to a reporter from the Eugene  CabalPowered   Feb-24-07 11:01 AM   #315 
   Can we get a pdf of the police report?  AngryAmish   Feb-24-07 11:12 AM   #317 
   Hey  Left Hook   Feb-24-07 12:33 PM   #321 
   194 recommendations!  RagingInMiami   Feb-25-07 12:54 AM   #324 
   please contact me  Artiechoke   Feb-25-07 01:40 AM   #325 
   anything which is in public view can be legally photographed.  Lerkfish   Feb-27-07 01:28 PM   #329 
   good luck with your case  Blue_Tires   Feb-27-07 02:34 PM   #330 
   Florida's "peacekeepers" would be out on their ass in Germany  lebkuchen   Feb-27-07 02:36 PM   #331 
 
helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:14 AM
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1. GET THIS TO KEITH OLBERMANN. K&R
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:31 AM
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26. Seconded on that! Here's KO's email addy
KOlbermann@msnbc.com

Let it be known what was done to you, RIM!

Am keeping you in my thoughts as you go through all the processes, emotional, physical and legal. :pals:
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 02:40 PM
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93. Better yet send a copy of this thread to the cop station.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 07:18 PM
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236. great idea
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:15 AM
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2. Good. It's important to punish the bad cops.
The best way to do that is make departments pay big bucks for keeping these loose canons on the force.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 11:15 AM
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3. Good luck.
Sounds like a solid case for you, IMO.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:15 AM
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4. Is it a police state yet? Recommended.
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 03:36 PM
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127. yes, but most americans don't care. that's the real problem. nt
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:16 AM
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5. Very good luck to you.
Buncha dirty harries.
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:16 AM
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6. Give the ACLU all the photos, get eyewitnesses to back you up.
Build your case. Take them to court.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:16 AM
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7. Good Luck
What a story. Sue the thugs!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:17 AM
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8. I hope you nail them.
People who defend cops as supposed saints who defend us all always ignore stories like this, where entire groups of cops violate people's civil rights as a matter of routine, and usually get away with it. Every one of those cops should be arrested and thrown in jail, and if that means that we empty that precinct and put them all in jail, then so be it.

They couldn't pull this kind of shit without knowing it would be supported by their higher-ups. This isn't one or two bad cops. This is a disease that infects the entire police department.
x(
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 08:26 PM
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250. excellent point
and it goes all the way up to the bloody white house
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:17 AM
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Good luck!
Keep us posted.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 11:17 AM
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9. Holy shit, Raging. I hope you are okay and your lawsuit prevails.
Where did our America go, or have I been living in fantasy land?
It's looking more and more like fascism every day, isn't it.
Thanks for sharing your account, and I hope you keep us posted.
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ProudDad (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 07:36 PM
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241. FYI - This IS Amerikan "justice"
This is the way it is, has been and until we change the system always will be.

The cops who attacked you are the guardians of capitalism... That's always been their job and it gets worse every year as the cops become more and more militarized.

Sue THEIR F*CKIN asses off. I hope you're awarded $100,000,000! Until those F*CKS feel the pain, they'll still be pursuing business as usual.

And please folks, don't think this is an aberration performed by some cowboys on the force. This is business as usual where I live -- where the bottles break and the pavement's broken. This is standard operating procedures for the guardians of capitalism, the defenders of the rich.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:17 AM
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10. Please contact the ACLU. Please.
This interference with civil rights in contravention of the First Amendment is reprehensible.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 11:18 AM
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11. Good Luck RIM. This is a violation of your rights.
Check out the Pop Photography archives for the article "The War Against Photographers". It's chilling. A guy was just taking morning shots of a refinery wit6h the sun rising in silhouette, and his camera was confiscated...always under the guise of "fighting terrorism".

Go get 'em. :hi:
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 03:20 PM
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111. Greg Palast complained about being harassed for taking photos of oil refineries on the Gulf Coast --
the argument against him was that he was showing terrorists where these refineries are located-- or something idiotic like that. Palast said he was aided by powerful friends who made some calls and the dogs were called off -- but it's scary to know that evidence can be contrived to ruin you if authority figures make you a target.

Best of luck to you.... and please keep us updated, although your attorney probably won't want you to talk about this case until it's settled.

Best of luck to you.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-24-07 01:54 AM
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301. And a friend on another board had his camera broken
Edited on Sat Feb-24-07 01:58 AM by Wednesdays
And threatened with arrest because he was photographing trains:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:18 AM
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12. Oh gracious
I hope you're okay and I hope you'll get justice. That is awful.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:18 AM
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13. That is terrible, just terrible. I hope you are safe and will be okay.
You better let Amy Goodman know about this on Democracy Now. They love to cover stories like this and expose the police state. That is if it doesn't interfere with your legal rights. I hope you get a very good lawyer. Were there any witnesses who could come to your aid or would they be threatened too. (Probably). I'll say a little prayer for you. Peace!
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:18 AM
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14. Be interesting to track down the guy in the black car
behind them. He was checking out what was happening and could testify that you weren't in the road, as he as driving in the road at the time.

Good luck!
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jollyreaper2112 (955 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:18 AM
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15. I think this is so beautiful
Really, it is. Ebony, ivory, oppressing in perfect harmony. It's so nice to see that white cops and black cops can come together in the interest of kicking the fucking snot out of an innocent citizen. I mean, this is what racial progress is all about! Remember when it was just white cops beating people up?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:20 AM
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16. Good god.. Well, at least there's no doubt about who was there.
What a disgrace these people are.

I'm happy you're safe now. :scared:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:20 AM
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17. I am sorry to hear this.
I wish you a speedy recovery. I can't imagine being in that situation. Be safe. Peace, Kim
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agtcovert (98 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:22 AM
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18. K&R
Sorry you had to endure this. Keep fighting the good fight.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:22 AM
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19. Get the bastards! A little media attention wouldn't hurt, either.




Best of luck to you, and please keep us updated. This should be a very interesting case.



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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:23 AM
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20. AFTER you talk to a lawyer:
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 11:25 AM by sfexpat2000
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:24 AM
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21. Send this to Olbermann and I wish you luck with your lawsuit
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:24 AM
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22. Glad you're alive to report this
Sue them.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:31 AM
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25. No kidding. The trauma of being beat up by armed people
is bad enough, though.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 02:35 PM
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92. It's shocking
but increasingly less surprising.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 05:45 PM
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211. Poor people have always gone through this kind of abuse.
That it's spreading now to the middle class is predictable and a real cause for concern. :(
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:26 AM
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23. With today's penchant for the cops using video evidence to protect themselves
(especially in even just a minor traffic violation), I wouldn't be surprised if the surveillance video which would capture this "disappears" ...

Like the tape which would have put McKinney away for good when "she assaulted" a security person ... strangely in the very area which was NOT covered by security cameras ...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:35 AM
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31. It's funny how often evidence disappears when
it would implicate cops.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 02:05 PM
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84. Not all departments have cameras in their cars
that is truly a misconception, and I would not be too shocked if Miami Dale doesn't
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:27 AM
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24. First contact the ACLU, then the FBI for civil rights violations.
Keep several copies of your photos. Also contact the District Attorneys office to file criminal charges, and the cops Internal Affairs unit.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 08:30 PM
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253. and don't keep
'em all in one place. you have one here on DU, i'd love to view the whole roll

i mean you can skip the anna nicole smith ones.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 11:34 AM
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27. wishing you good luck and good lawyers

politics in Miami is vicious
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PLF (414 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:34 AM
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28. chickenshit assholes, everyone of them.
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:34 AM
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29. Nail their asses.
I hope to heaven that you prevail and they are majorly chastised. This cannot continue to happen. I am sorry you were injured but I am proud that you stood firm against their intimidation.

Keep us up to speed. You are fighting for all of us. Many thanks.

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verse18 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:34 AM
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30. Glad to hear you're OK.
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 11:39 AM by verse18
Thugs like these need to be put UNDER the jail.

ETA: The fact that they left the other guy alone to harass you is very telling.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:36 AM
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OMG! This is HUGE! K&R n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 11:36 AM
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32. What does "disobeying a police officer" entail, though?
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 11:37 AM by WinkyDink
"When a private, law abiding citizen encounters police, the amount of intrusion a Law Enforcement Officer is allowed to demand is limited. Some areas have laws against "disobeying a police officer" or "obstructing an officer from their duties", but the bounds of what officers can reasonably require someone not suspected of any other criminal activity in a peaceful situation have not been clearly drawn by the courts."
http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:cTKu0EBmm_0J:www.er...

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:38 AM
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33. if you enhance that photo...
...you could probably get the license plate of that black car.

I'm sure you've thought of that already.

Be sure to let the police department know that you've posted the photo and the narrative to an activist message board with 100,000 members who stand ready to pass the information to their media contacts and extensive lists of email contacts nationwide.
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demrabble (500 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:39 AM
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34. SUE EEEE!
Those pigs look like the swine they are.

And you should SUE the City of Miami, Miami/Dade County, the Police Department, and each cop individually.

It just is one more sign of how * (and, in Florida, his brother, Jeb) have turned this once proud democracy of ours into a fucking Police State!

Good Luck on obtaining J.U.S.T.I.C.E.
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ninkasi (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:42 AM
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35. The things they charged you with
are really just smokescreens, because your real offense apparently was to exercise your Constitutional rights. Those with power in the country today are doing everything they possess to eliminate those rights. This goes from low-level thugs like the police officers who beat you up and arrested you on bullshit charges, to the president himself, whose opinion of the Constitution is that it's "just a god-dammed piece of paper". I wish you luck, and hope you sue the pants off them.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 11:49 AM
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36. If Bush is looking for people who "hate us for our freedoms," this thread should give him a clue.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 11:55 AM
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37. K/R bigtime. Good Luck and go get 'em.
What first amendment?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 11:56 AM
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38. Have you contacted People Magazine? What did they say?
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 11:57 AM by Junkdrawer
:shrug:
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:03 PM
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39. I hope we still have the right to take photos in public.
I hope your okay and something is done about this.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:08 PM
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40. The scum of the earth. Police run amok.
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:09 PM
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41. only four of them? I think your out of court settlement will be huge.
I dare say police forces are getting used to paying out over cases like this.
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-24-07 07:52 AM
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309. Five
There is one hidden behind the cop on the left. And on the extreme left, you can see the right arm of the Sgt who was leading the assault.
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-24-07 08:06 AM
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310. take it easy, don't get too wound up - it's bad for the blood pressure
and think of the payout as well ;)

Imagine you are basking in the sunshine in the Bahamas as a tax exile and those guys are pounding the beat in stifling heat.

peace
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:13 PM
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42. They need to be gone from the police force. Attacking a journalist?
Brainless. n/t
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Mrspeeker (671 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:16 PM
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43. Protect and serve!
Themselves.

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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:29 PM
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44. Why in gawd's name do they need five officers to question one man?
Belly-boy on the far right of the photo looks like he's already spoiling for a fight. What's he reaching for?

Go for it, Raging. These officers were waaaay out of control.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:34 PM
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45. Wow talk about brown shirted thugs!
Hope you are doing better physically. What a nightmare.
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indepat (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:48 PM
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46. Welcome to fascist Amurikkka: good luck in your fight
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:49 PM
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48. K & R
Good luck! :hi:
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meldroc (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:51 PM
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49. K&R
Hope you nail their asses to the wall.

One of these days, some brownshirts are going to go too far and end up shot.
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:51 PM
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50. If you haven't heard
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 12:52 PM by vpilot
of this forum, have a look and by all means post you info, don't know if it will help but it's worth trying! http://www.copwatch.com / BTW best of luck in righting this wrong!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:52 PM
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51. Look at those cocky assholes!


You can see they're just itching for a fight. "Keeping the peace" isn't in the officer's lexicon these days.

Today's cop mission: inflict pain on and deny the Constitutionally protected rights of as many Americans as you can! Cuz we badass mofo's!!!!!!

Sorry you went through this. Good luck with your lawsuit.
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theboss (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:52 PM
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52. In general, I believe everything I am told by complete strangers on the Internets.


But for some reason, I'm not completely buying it today.

Why am I guessing there is more to this story than what you describe?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 07:29 PM
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238. I know Raging In Miami and I have read his posts for years.
There is no reason to believe he is not being accurate.

Yeah. Miami police. They clearly should have the advantage on trust and veracity. :eyes:

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sodenoue (83 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-24-07 02:14 AM
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304. pigs count on people believing them over you
never trust scummy low paid cops. Not to discredit any good cops there may be, they are just few and far between.

I hope this guy gets those 5 fired. A-Holes.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:52 PM
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53. K&R
If this does indeed go to court, please let us know. I for one will give up a weekend fun trip with the kids to pitch in on your legal fund. Not that you should need it. This is an open and shut case as far as I can see.

I wish you good luck, and hope you are feeling well.

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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 12:53 PM
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54. No offense, but why exactly were you interfering in a situation with which
you had no familiarity?

It sounds like the police response was over the top, but you had no business getting involved in their work.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:07 PM
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56. Say what???? There are now "Free View Zones" where citizens...
can watch what police are doing on public streets?

You know, like "Free Speech Zones"...
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:10 PM
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60. The original problem was him interfering with a police matter --
AFTER that the other charges came about.

If he had left them the hell alone, none of this would have happened.

I'm not saying the violence was necessary or called for, but who the fuck walks up into a situation like this that has literally nothing to do with them?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:12 PM
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64. Ah... a reporter????
:shrug:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:15 PM
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66. "but who the fuck walks up into a situation like this that has literally nothing to do with them?"
A journalist, which is what the OP is.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:18 PM
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69. Even if he wasnt' a journalist.
In public we all have a right to keep an eye on our police. Even if he wasn't a journalist the police have no right to dictate where someone can be or what someone can do unless there is a valid public saftey reason for their order. boosting their own egos and insulating themselves from monitoring are not valid public safety reasons.
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:25 PM
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71. Exactly
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 01:26 PM by RagingInMiami
A journalist does not have any more right than a non-journalist when it comes to these matters.

The law states that all citizens have the right to photograph police on a public road as long as they are not interfering. This is a First Amendment right.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:32 PM
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73. Amen to that
:hi:
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 02:00 PM
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82. Cheers to that! Or is the rule now that only journalists connected to the event in some
non-professional manner can report on it?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:16 PM
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67. That is crazy.
You're saying that if we ignore everything police do, don't watch them, don't report on them, don't ever put ourselves in any position where were could hold the police accountable for anything then there wouldn't be a problem.

Yes, let's mindlessly obey police and never monitor them at all. That will prevent police brutality. :eyes:

Wow.
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RagingInMiami (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:16 PM
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68. There is no law against photographing police while they are in the line of duty
And I was not interfering. I was more than 20 yards away.

Do you believe the guy who videotaped the Rodney King beating was "interfering with a police matter"?
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RandiFan1290 (572 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:37 PM
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75. Exactly
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 01:40 PM by RandiFan1290
The biggest threat to these thugs is a camera. That is the only way they will ever be caught. Even then they stick together and deny the video evidence.

Anyone doing police surveillance should have at least two camera persons. One to film the thugs and one to film the other camera person when the thugs attack them.

If there was no video of Rodney King no one would have believed him over those pig's bullshit story.
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244. I'm sure the cops who were
beating up on Rodney King thought the guy videotaping was "interfering with a police matter." They'd probably say (and probably did say), "if it hadn't been for that guy everything would have been fine."

Good luck Raging. Keep up he pressure!
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #60
87. He was NOT interfering, he was merely standing nearby.
And that is NOT illegal. He's a photojournalist and was doing his job in a public place.

When you're a journalist, you walk up on lots and LOTS of situations that "have nothing to do" with you.

Jesus Christ. No wonder this country is becoming more Orwellian every day.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #87
203. Agreed.
Now these guys are good cops.

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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Feb-25-07 01:57 AM
Response to Reply #87
326. kcik
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Feb-23-07 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #60
90. 'splin this one to me
how is taking a photograph 20 yards from the scene inferfeting with emergency workers?

Now ther are ways to interfere with the work of emergency workers, but having been one at one time, a photograph is not one of them. (unless of course, you do not want any photographic evidence of things that you were doing that are not kosher)

Jeebus H Chirst what is this about cops are always right and civies are always wrong?

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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #60
107. Uhm, a reporter, duh, another freelancer reporting in...
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 03:10 PM by Solon
Of course, I wasn't a photographer, but my notepad was always with me, and I scrounged up my own stories for a local news magazine. But, I've done plenty of stuff related to photography or writing that involved walking up to a "situation" that had nothing to do with me. I'm also working on a book for the history of University City, its an update of a book by my Grandmother, she worked for the city from the 1960s to the 1990s, she penned the Integration legislation in the city. The original book was her own, written in the 1960s, but the city backed her on it, and at this moment, I've been working on the graphic design and photography. I've walked up and down Delmar Loop, even took photographs of the U-City cops, unlike Miami PD, they were photogenic, and SMILED for the camera.

At the time they didn't know what I was working on, but, to their credit, they didn't beat the crap out of me for taking some pictures. By the way, RaginginMiami, I hope you sue the crap out of them, and able to retire, this abuse is inexcusable.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #60
179. How was this "interfering"? Seriously? How?
Is taking pictures for a ways away "interfering"? Is noticing that something is happening "interfering"?

Are we supposed to look the other way whenever police appear, not notice them? Are we supposed to let police do whatever they want? I am amazed and appalled at what you write. You do realize that police are public servants, and we are the public, don't you? Who the fuck stops to watch police do something? Who the fuck should not?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #179
201. It's like Frank in Blue Velvet. "Don't look at me!" smack! n/t
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #60
217. You Keep Using That Word, "Interfering." I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means
Interfering would mean he was doing something that prevented police from doing their lawful job.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-24-07 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #217
323. Inconceivable!
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #60
251. Read the constitution and remind yourself, or try to -
that until people like you take over, it's still a free country, and a public thoroughfare is just that - public. At 20+ yards away, "interfering" isn't even in the equation.

Most cops are okay. These guys weren't. Get over it.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #60
257. A real journalist? n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #60
265. I guess you are for a police state
Where people are thrown into jail for looking the wrong way.

This is the second time I've read a completely outrageous position from you.

What is up with that?
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rman (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-24-07 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #60
312. "interfering"?
:wtf:
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digitalterrain (1 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Feb-24-07 09:39 PM
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322. What exactly is a police matter?
A crime scene I can understand, but even then, journalists are allowed to film them from whatever perimeter is set up. AFAIK, a "police matter" is hoey for "we don't want you photographing us". The first amendment is the first amendment. I read no such terms in that amendment, in fact, quite the opposite. He was on public land. If they lie in concert well enough, they will prevail. The real shame in all this is there is an arm with three stripes to the left of the shot - when supervisors enter into this type of basic rights violation, that's where the REAL crime occurs.

Wilk
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. Taking photographs in public is interfering?
You really go over the top defending cops, don't you? It's always the victim's fault somehow.
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snacker (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 03:38 PM
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129. A couple of years ago...
my teenage daughter had just gotten a digital camera and was taking pictures in the parking lot of a mall. She was innocently snapping photos of a movie theater sign across the lot (fascinated with the ability to take nighttime photos with her new camera) and a mall security guard drove up and told her to stop because you can't take pictures of buildings like that. Of course, she got scared and obliged.
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Cobalt Violet (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #54
59. How is 20 yds. away "interfering" or "getting involved"?
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #54
70. Watching what's going on on a public street is interfering?
Sounds to me like they 'involved' RagininMiami rather than the other way around.

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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #54
81. I have to disagree. A public space is a public space. If the city can videotape
the citizenry, the citizenry can videotape the city.
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ArbustoBuster (934 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 03:09 PM
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105. "Interfering in a situation with which you had no familiarity"?
Every American has a right and responsiblility to "get involved with the work" of the police. They are not our overlords.

There is a difference between taking photographs of the police from across the street and, say, pulling a cop off of a person he or she is arresting. The first of these things is enshrined in our Constitution. The second of these things is interfering. Kindly learn the difference before you go accusing a journalist of improper behavior again.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Feb-23-07 09:19 PM
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270. That is a cool picture!!!