It won't matter if Obama or Hillary win the Dem Nom...the GOPers will bring out Michael Bloomberg

[opihimoimoi]

and Naderize the dam election....

Will it work? Possibly....but then thats their only hope as I see it today.

MaC the Hugger is too old

Huck Earth is 6000 yrs old ain't the one

Fred is doomed

Mitt is unfit

Ron Paul is too cool

and the last guy is hiding.....

The Master GOPers are smoking cigars right about now.....HHMmmmmmmmm

[Mythsaje]

1. I'm actually hoping that Ron Paul will go Libertarian.

That would create a four-way split that would be VERY interesting to see. I just have to wonder what it would take to get him to do that.

[Frances]

2. I think Huckabee has a very good chance of being the Repub

nominee. The country club Repubs will be skeptical of him. Bloomberg would be a good choice for those Repubs. And he could get the votes of the Dem and independent Hillary haters.

[veniceboy]

6. That is the only way Hillary can win.

She will get 43% of the vote in a three way which is likely enough to win if there is a three way split, but Bloomberg ISN'T going to run (especially not against a New York Senator or a black man). He's a smart guy and realizes he has no shot as a third party candidate of winning. Only if Edwards and Huckabee are the nominees could I the midget mayor get into the race. Hillary's best chance at a three way split is if a McCain/Rudy/or Romney nomination angers the xianfacsists and gets some religious wacko as a thrid party candidate.

[Frances]

21. I think Hillary could win in a 2-way race,

but it would be very close. She could also lose. A lot depends on who her opponent is and how the campaign goes.

The same goes for Obama and Edwards.

[LostinVA]

49. Hillary can also beat McCain

[GodlessBiker]

3. Nope. If it is Obama, Bloomers won't run.

[Sherman A1]

19. He might

one the ticket with Obama... I recall a well publicized meeting in NY at a coffee shop.

[TwilightGardener]

4. He won't help them--he'll hurt them. Their lack of solid candidates

is what's giving Bloomberg such an opening. If Bloomberg plays up his fiscal skills and plays down his socially-liberal/nanny tendencies, he could do them some damage. I have the feeling he wants Chuck Hagel on his ticket to appeal more to disaffected conservatives, and Hagel is still the only mainstream, prominent Republican who wants to end the war. The anti-war Repub vote in NH went to McCain because Paul's a nut and no one else credibly fills that void.

[Happyhippychick]

7. I agree. Bloomberg running only hurts the Repukes.

[I work for workers]

17. Boolmberg hurts both parties if he runs.

I'm not sure who he hurts more. Sure he ran as a Rep, but he was the ultimate RINO and governs a liberal city.

[pegleg]

12. Many have seen how spineless certain dems have been since

'06 and might be drawn to a 3rd party vote.

[GodlessBiker]

20. Agreed. I think Bloomberg is seen as business tough (smarter than Romney).

And many people like that approach. I think he would hurt both parties.

[ZinZen]

33. True

and CNN was discussing that about half the repubs are dissatisfied with Bush. I thing Bloomberg and particulary Bloomberg/Hagel would hurt the repubs because they have a field of horrid losers.

[cali]

5. One more time: Bloomberg won't run if the candidate is Obama n/t

[Happyhippychick]

8. When will we know when the candidate is? Can Bloomberg hold off that long?

[Inuca]

31. Two answers

1. probably/hopefully after Feb 4th
2. yes

[pegleg]

9. Never say never

[terisan]

10. Bloomberg won the liberal voters in NYC.

[Happyhippychick]

11. So did 9ui11ani. And they aren't lining up to vote for him now.

[terisan]

16. No they they won the Liberal Party vote; the Liberal Party is liberal in name only.

In its early days it was truly liberal but it got coopted.

[terisan]

13. Actually he said early on that he would not run against good candidates like Clinton

He will not want to split the NY vote. It is Obama and Edwards whom he might run against.

Edwards becaus of his anti-corporate stand. From Obama he will want certain commitments before he decides to not run against him.

Clinton might give Bloomberg a cabinet post.

[TwilightGardener]

15. He denied and hesitated until NH, when Hillary won--and now he's

starting up his groundwork, so I think you're wrong.

[terisan]

18. No he hesitated until Obama won Iowa and was running ahead in NH polls

[Inuca]

30. He is not "starting up his groundwork" now

the recent news is about research and info he has asked for months ago(I assume that's what you are refering to), so it has nothing to do with how Obama or Clinton have been doing recently. He cab afford to spend a few millions on information he is not going to use after all.

Like you, I continue to believe that he will not get in if Obama is the nominee (and I hope we are not both starry eyed naive idealists for assuming that Bloomberg would not be in it just for the power and the ego thing). It was interesting to hear Kerry today, in the part of his speech that I saw on the cnn site, also emphasize unity.

[TwilightGardener]

51. No, it's true that he's not "starting" now, I just meant that he's

visibly and openly preparing now that Obama is not a shoo-in--I think he's been planning to run for at least a year, but has been doing it quietly.

[Captain_Nemo]

38. He started up the groundwork the night before and the day off the NH primary.

I watched it on CNN before she won NH now you don't hear from him.

[Inuca]

32. I don't think he ever said he will not run against Clinton

he said he does not like polarizing candidates on wither side. Clinton definitely qualifies as such.

[Captain_Nemo]

39. His advisors said he wouldn't run if the nominee had solid support.

[bullwinkle428]

24. Exactly what Brent Budowsky said yesterday - Bloomberg

would push the "change candidate" theme, and he'd look like a pathetic copy-cat if he tried to do that against Obama!

He'd be seen as having some credibility running against Hillary, by those that see her as "status quo" or part of a "continuing dynasty"...

[ZinZen]

34. Cali.

Interested to hear why you don't think Bloomberg won't run if Obama wins? Does Bloomberg have animosity towards Hillary? I am in the dark about this.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. At least it would give the DLC'rs a new home. Or, tent.

[dmallind]

22. Wrong

I would vote for any of the viable Dem candidates over Bloomberg. The DLC types are pragmatists above all - why support a guaranteed loser? That's an idealist's failing, not a Blue Dog's.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. They might not vote for Bloomy because he's "too liberal".

But, you may be right. They do favor those who are "winners". So, if Bloomberg appears to be ahead, they'll go home to their ideological bedmate.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." - Thomas Paine

[dmallind]

35. Too much projection

it's better to let each bloc define itself than do it for them surely? I'm as blue as a dog can get and no Dem outside Kucinich would have any risk of losing my vote - and Dennis has a very slim risk at that, and wouldn't lose it to Bloomberg.

Moderation in politics is not moderation in principle. It is a principle of moderation.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

37. We, obviously, have different principles..

[Hoof Hearted]

23. Nobody outside of the eastern seaboard gives a shit about Bloomburg, let him run

I think it would be GREAT for us. I think it would peel away all kinds of (R) votes.

Go Bloomburg! Waste your money baby!

[Ganja Ninja]

26. That's what I say. Let the man run and see what happens.

The people have until November to decide who they want to vote for. A lot can happen in the meantime. By that time, should Bloomberg run, It might be a 2 way race between him and the Democratic nominee. I'm not buying the argument that running a very liberal Republican will mean splitting the Democratic vote only. People are so disgusted with the GOP that if offered an alternative like Bloomberg they just might express their disgust and the GOP candidate will finish third.

[terisan]

43. People read Bloomberg all over the country. nt

[Johonny]

27. The thing is

I can see myself voting for Bloomberg over Hillary.

[AndyTiedye]

28. A Bloomberg Run Would Allow the 29%ers to Choose the Next President

[opihimoimoi]

29. Thats what I am afraid of....

[RL3AO]

36. Go Bloomberg! Take a handfull of states with you!

Let the Dem controlled house elect the president. I don't mind. Now that would be screwing the republicans! :)

[cynatnite]

40. Sorry, but I can't see Bloomberg winning...

One commercial saying he's trying to buy the WH would sink him, IMO. He's got 6 billion bucks to blow and I think that would not sit well with a lot of folks. Plus independents usually don't do well in elections.

[BadgerLaw2010]

41. What makes you think Bloomberg takes orders from Republicans?

[terisan]

42. 1; Bloomberg won't want to split NY vote 2. Bloomberg won't run as Republican

so he may plan to run against Obama or Edwards

for a clue look at Bloomberg's social, financial, international issues and interests.

Don't forget NYC was already ground zero and he has security concerns, Bloomberg is somewhat of a social liberal who only ran as Republican because he knew he couldn't get on the Dem ticket so he switched his party, and has now left the Republican party. He attracts both Dem and Republican and Independent voters in NYC so may think he can do same nationally, He is sharp-probably will only run if he knows he stands a reasonable chance or thinks the other candidates are so terrible or dangerous that he must make a run to sound the alarm.

He has no party affiliation, no need to raise money, has developed a concern about global climate change and has begun planning for NYC survival, has an interest in peace in the middle east.

I honestly don't know which nominee he would run against but filing time is running out. I would hate to see Chuck Hagel on his ticket though would not like to see hagel ever in a position to nominate anyone to SC.

[Octafish]

44. ''Mitt is unfit.''

Ha ha ha ha!!!!

Ironic.

Goldy, too.

Cigars are called for because the turds also have a plausible story to cover their shenanigans counting votes.

[Hubert Flottz]

45. One way or another the GOP will try to cheat us.

It's the only way they can "win".

[Hubert Flottz]

46. K&R

The GOPers can't afford to let a democrat in the White House to investigate what all Bush and Cheney have done.

[opihimoimoi]

52. They are going all out to prevent a Dem takeover in the WH.

Going camping for the Weekend....roughing it...no water/power...only fishes

[Vinca]

47. I really don't know that much about Bloomberg, but for some reason

I thought he was a bit liberal for the rank and file Republicans so maybe he wouldn't get their support.

[KharmaTrain]

48. They Need A New Storyline

Remember, Opi...this is a Reality TV show...a popularity contest...Survivor for political junkies. Substance has no place here...neither do truth or real reality. This is making "good TV"...stuff that gets ratings and the more vacuous the better. You preach "bi-partisanship" and how "this is what the people" want out of one side of your Situation Room and put on two political hacks to spin away on the other.

In the political junkie game, money is the ultimate woody. The more money, the bigger the woody, the more turned on the beltway village cocktail weenie-eaters are. They oogle that this guy can throw away a billion dollars and not even find it in his holdings statement. Since he's got such a large woody, he must be a "force".

I'd be more concerned with a GOOP third party...specifically a Dr. Ron Paul whose been milking the GOOP primary system for money and exposure. He's got Paulbots all across the country and they're not gonna go into a cave after the primaries...and Paul has hauled in a pretty good "woody" that could make him the George Wallace of this election...far greater pain to the Repugnicans than Democrats.

Let Bloomberg throw his money away...but I doubt he really will. I think he's getting his own woody from all the media attention...something his money usually can't buy. I don't see him being an alternative to those who don't like either Hillary, Obama or Edwards...and supressed Repugnican vote will diminish the "Nader effect" on Democrats this year. We're just too pissed.

Aloha...and thinking of a nice Maui Waterfall on a cold Midwest day...

:hi:

[Clarkansas]

50. Bloomberg and Nader will probably run against Hillary, but they won't run against Obama. eom

[kentuck]

53. I think you may have hit the nail on the head...

With Hillary or Obama, Bloomberg may run.

[book_worm]

54. Bloomberg won't be the GOP candidate. Yeah, Ron Paul is "cool" for a racist.