The Garden of Eden was in Missouri???

[polichick]

Wolf Blitzer just announced that Mormons believe this ~ who knew???

[AlCzervik]

1. did you see the "The Mormons" on pbs? It was excellent and explained a lot.

of course the explanations made you say "Whaaaat?"

[Arkansas Granny]

25. It was an excellent documentary and I learned a lot of things I

hadn't known previously.

[LeftyMom]

45. It made me wonder why they forbid alcohol. It might make sense if I got fucked up. nt

[MissB]

2. That and many other fascinating tidbits are revealed in

Jon Krakauer's book Under the Banner of Heaven.

Golden plates.
Magic glasses.

[BrotherBuzz]

29. The heck with the magic glasses and the hat...

I'm still trying to fathom 'magic underwear'. :shrug:

[DCKit]

31. I want some of that magic underwear!!!

A tight butt and a HUGE.... well, you know.

[TechBear_Seattle]

3. Mormons believe a lot of stuff that non-Mormons think is odd

Personally, I don't think any of it is odder that the vast majority of other religious beliefs. :shrug:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

21. What's that? Of course everyone knows the Garden Of Eden was in Mesopotamia

just south, north, and west of Baghdad just a bit. What's odd about that?

[mitchtv]

28. true enough, but the underwear thing fascinates me

what is that anyway? can you pick the planet you get?

[MADem]

30. I think it's odder, because it is more recent. You can almost excuse older religions, because the

myths/stories/traditions were disseminated and passed down from people who were pretty ignorant of how the world works. Most of those stories were invented when everyone thought the world was flat, after all.

Alternatively, though, the more recent Mormon tales have an element of 'Deliberate Stupidity' about them that is, well, a bit craven. The story has elements in it that appear to me to be designed to appeal to dummies who have read the Bible tales, and these fables are "Like the Bible, only trendier, cooler, more up-to-date, with more magic!!!" Perfect for your average dunce in a wagon train.

I remain convinced that the 'religion' was founded by perverts who simply wanted to fuck a lot of women. And if that offends, well, it's just my opinion.

[DCKit]

34. No more than Scientology. Talk about a Woo-Woo belief system...

A lot of THAT was taken from Mormonism as well with additional wacky sci-fi, pseudo-scientific additions.

L. Ron is laughing his ass off in hell.

[knight_of_the_star]

38. Either that or

Yukking it up with Loki for pulling such a fast one on so many people at once.

[MADem]

41. That one is even MORE recent, and even MORE absurd! nt

[Ezlivin]

51. Actually the Book of Mormon plagiarizes the Bible

But the content of the Book of Mormon presents further difficulties. For example, there are many clearly demonstrated plagiarisms. Material has been taken from Ethan Smith's View of the Hebrews (1823), a book that was available to Joseph Smith, as well as from the King James Bible. Some 27,000 words from the King James Bible are found in the book of Mormon.

But if the Book of Mormon was first written between 600 B.C. and A.D. 421, how could it possibly contain such extensive quotations from the King James Bible, not to be written for another 12,00 to 2000 years? The Tanners have listed, one by one, 400 verses and portions of verses quoted from the New Testament in the Book of Mormon in their book, The Case Against Mormonism. Source

[Bucky]

64. O ye doubter of miracles! Know'st thou not that the Bible be in public domain?

[MADem]

73. I find it amazing that they continue to insist that the book wasn't written by a kooky guy

who built a religion in order to fuck a lot of women!!

[Ravy]

4. This Missourian did.

I don't believe it though.

What makes Missouri so cool now is that Illinois sucks and Kansas blows. At Garden of Eden time, they didn't exist.

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[MuseRider]

42. Ahh sorry Ravy but you are mistaken

blow or not the Garden of Eden IS in Kansas. http://www.garden-of-eden-lucas-kansas.com/

[Ravy]

57. Yeah, like they would let two people roam outside naked in Kansas... *grin*

:toast:

[MuseRider]

59. One of my oldest friends

and her husband have a nudist camp here on the outskirts of Topeka. They are forever being hassled but it is still there and functioning I believe.

There are very few opportunities in Kansas to see naked people roaming around, this is true. :hi:

[Ravy]

62. I live in Florida now...

Mizzou alum though. I just have so few opportunities to make Big-8 (as it was called back in "the day") that I couldn't pass this one up.

Given the state of the team north of you it may be a while until I can muse what the N on Nebraska's helmet stands for.

[MuseRider]

68. I can't even begin to talk this language.

Sorry, football holds no interest for me especially college football. I am glad you stated Nebraska because I was busy trying to figure out who you were talking about. I know that is sacrilege in these parts but oh well. :) For you, "Go Mizzou" I guess. :shrug:

[Drunken Irishman]

5. Yes, Mormons believe it's in Missouri.

They also believe that American Indians are descendents of the original Israelites, even though DNA testing has proven this is not true.

[El Supremo]

17. But Mel Brooks had the indians speaking Yiddish...

in Blazing Saddles.

[MADem]

74. Heya heya Oi Vey!! Ta hell with the non-matching D-N-A!!!! NT

[northzax]

22. and let's not forget

that black people were burned black when they were cast out of heaven for not helping in the fight against the Luciferian rebellion! good times.

[tekisui]

26. You got it off a little.

Black people carry the "mark of Cain". After Cain killed Abel, he and his "people" carried this mark for the rest of time. Same shit as what you said, though.

[Bucky]

67. Actually, you're giving an explanation used by mainstream Christians in the 1800s

Besides, everyone knows the Jews killed Abel.

[tekisui]

70. A lot of Mormons belief this, too.

Of course, mormons started their religion in the 1800's christianity.

[Terran]

6. Hmmm

I live in the middle of the state and it's really a beautiful (almost exotic) place...but most of it used to be at the bottom of an inland sea, so I don't know about this. :think:

[TahitiNut]

7. Yup. Fort Leonard Wood.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[CK_John]

8. Did he say anything about 100% made in USA. n/t

[Bitwit1234]

9. When I think of Mormons

I always think of the massacre of the wagon train. And that it was approved by the leader.

[Bucky]

66. Mormons were pretty intensely persecuted before they marched west

It was an age of steel and lead. I hardly think a 150 year old atrocity is a valid basis for singling out one religion.

[displacedtexan]

10. My favorite Mormon belief...

That Jesus and Lucifer were brothers, and they had a
falling out when the god-members of the extraterrestrial
board of gods voted Jesus as the savior to send to earth.

[snooper2]

11. I grew up in Missouri...

and left as soon as possible, if there is one place the "Garden of Eden" is not, it's Missouri :)

[Faygo Kid]

12. Show Me.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/yhst-56299508002466_1971_2509794

[spanone]

13. that's a strip joint on the edge of town

[El Supremo]

14. And hell is still Texas.

The land of Nod is in Arkansas.

[Hieronymus]

15. He also mentioned that Mormons believe that God is in human form, and

that there is no original sin. I go along with the no original sin thing, but lots of those evangelicals will have a problem with it.

[NeedleCast]

16. The Mormons have some scientology-like

stories in the Book of Mormon, which, as I understand it, is their bible version 2.0. They still believe in the bible, but they also believe there's another bible, the Book of Mormon. All kinds of fun stories in there.

[tekisui]

19. That's right. But, more importantly,

They believe in "Moder Day Revalation" with modern prophets. They believe everything their prophet says is scripture. So, the Book of Mormon is 2.0.

They also have "The Pearl of Great Price" and "The Doctrine & Covenants" translated/written by Joseph Smith thru revelation.

And all of the subsequent words of all of their prophets and leaders for a couple hundred years.

[NeedleCast]

36. I was out in Salt Lake

in 2006 for business and took a tour of the mormon conference center. Very beautiful place. Little scary. At one point there was a series of paintings and the tour guide (nice old lady) told this story about how the Mormons and the anti-mormons fought a huge battle in south America circa 2000 years ago involving millions of native south americans using iron-age weapons. I asked her what evidence they had that such a battle took place. Surely a battle or even war, involving millions of people using iron-age weapons would have left some sort of evidence. She told me that "some evidence had been found" but mostly they just believe it. I have never heard of any evidence that iron-age technology existed in south america during about the same time the Roman Empire was at it's height...in fact there's quit a bit to the contrary.

One other thing I noticed at the Mormon Church visitors center that I found interesting. It is almost completely staffed by very good looking 20-something girls. I wonder if there's some psychological thing going on there? As soon as I walked in I was approached by three girls all asking how they could help me. I thought of several way, but most would have been illegal in a public setting.

[SpiralHawk]

39. "What a crock." - Atahualpa

"Would you anti-American republicon homelander fascists stop making shit up. Sheesh."

- Atahualpa

[tekisui]

52. Those were missionaries.

Every young man is told from childhood that they are to go on a two year mission when they are 19. Women are told they CAN, not nearly as encouraged. A lot of the missions that women go on are spending two years working at a visitor's center or some other church post.

The missionaries spend two years eating, breathing and studying mormonism. It is very indoctrinating.

[NeedleCast]

65. I'm sure it is

Thanks for the information. I knew the part about doing two years of mission work but I didn't realize women of mormon faith were "encouraged" to work at the Mormon temple site in Salt Lake.

They were cute as hell though. I would have listen to them try to sell me car insurance for an hour.

[Disturbed]

23. Mitt's politics are whatever gets him elected.

He was like that when running for Gov. & when he was Gov. I wouldn't vote for him if
suddenly became a Green Party member or a Dem.

[warren pease]

18. If it's heat and humidity you seek...

...and paralyzing cold in the winter, Missouri's the place to be.


wp

[Javaman]

20. Ummm, so why did they pick Utah to live? nt

[DCKit]

35. Driven out by the locals.

NY -> MO -> UT -> world domination -> the STARS

[LeftyMom]

48. You missed a few.

NY-> OH-> MO-> IL-> UT-> global domination through Republican voting and breeding that would shame rabbits -> profit!

[NoFederales]

54. Check out Morman war; Missouri wouldn't have 'em. nt

NoFederales

[CyberPieHole]

24. Yes, it was. And a talking salamander guarded the Book of Mormon...

or something to that effect. I know it had something to do with magic and Joseph Smith. It's all hoakum IMHO.

[underpants]

27. Two words-MAGIC UNDERPANTS

google it

[Disturbed]

32. DNA Science is wrong?

Humans did not evolve from beings in Africa but from Native Americans?

[Blaze Diem]

37. Yep Native Americans who apparently came from Siberia..

hmmm.
They also believe, I am told, that when the man marries his wife, he gives her a secret name at the ceremony. This is never spoken again ...until he is dead and he calls for her in the afterlife. BUT only if he feels she served him well on earth. Then he calls her secret name and she joins him. But only after she gives him lots of children, because for every child she bears him, HE is given a higher place in the afterlife.
I once lived near Utah and many Mormans resided there also. The word on the street was that they wanted to have 13 kids for the father's ascension into heaven someday. It was in the early nineties then, and custom vans were trendy. At least there they were. Locals called them BMW's. Big Mormon Wagons. I guess the vans were functional for the size of the families.

Why do the pukes always seem to invoke the name of JFK when they cannot make it on their own reputation?

[DemGa]

33. Perhaps Romney will then be queried

Boxers or magic underwear?

[MuseRider]

40. I always knew

you were magic, underpants. ;)

[Disturbed]

46. Repug Candidates that don't believe in Evolution & one that

doesn't believe in DNA Science. Does America need that sort of Pres.?

[MuseRider]

49. Was this for me?

I guess I do not understand how my little silly quip to underpants about underpants would bring this response. For what it is worth I totally agree with you. :shrug:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

50. I have holey underpants - do those count?

[Lucinda]

43. I did. Do I win a prize?

No ponies please.
That Verizon commercial playing 24/7 around here has me very anti-pony at the moment.

[Occam Bandage]

44. Yes. And Jesus, after the resurrection, preached in upstate New York.

Also not kidding.

[rug]

60. Not in Utica. There's nothing living there.

[mitchum]

47. Mrs mitchum says that all of their shit sounds like something made up in a treehouse

[rjones2818]

53. Yes!

And Branson's the modern day flaming sword to keep people away!

:evilgrin:

[Wizard777]

55. Yes it was and Hell is in Crawford Texas. n/t

[trashcanistanista]

56. But heaven is in

California!

[Hawaii Hiker]

69. Heaven would be being in Los Angeles, CA in a Four Seasons suite

w/Lindsay Lohan!, :woohoo: :woohoo:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

71. I think that would be Fred Thompson's Heaven too

And having chocolate mousse at Spago instead of Moose Chili in a country gun store.

[OzarkDem]

58. They created their religion by looking in a hat with a magic stone

and having visions which were translated into script that became their Bible.

What else can you expect? Heck I love Missouri, but even I know its too damn hot in the summer to be the garden of eden. Comes close, though.

[Milo_Bloom]

61. Dum Dum Dum Dum Dummmmmmmmm

http://www.southparkzone.com/episodes/712/All-about-the-Mormons?.html

One of my all time faves!

[asdjrocky]

63. Right next to Pigly-Wigly

[slackmaster]

72. I've been there - It's drastically overrated

Too many mosquitoes, chiggers, lots of poison ivy, etc.