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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:14 AM
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Why I'm for Edwards
He's declared war on our behalf against the greed, corruption, and casual malice of the status quo. He knows the score, knows how compromise with certain agencies is killing America. He speaks the language of labor, and understands the blue collar blues. When he looks at someone and says, "I know where you're coming from," he isn't just spitting game. When he speaks out against the industry lobbyists and the DC insiders, he's talking to people like you and me, the kind of people who don't trust the suits. He's talking to each and every one of us who's felt the bite of the insurance companies, the credit card companies, the banks, and saying "government isn't here to protect them from you, it's here to protect YOU from THEM."

And every time he says something like this for people to hear, he makes another enemy. Powerful enemies, with lots and lots of money. But he's faced such foes before, and beaten them soundly. He got rich doing it.

People say he's selling "snake oil," and he's "just in it for his ego."

You show me a presidential candidate who doesn't have a healthy ego and I'll show you someone who'll never win. There are arenas in which humility and self-doubt do not belong, particularly in this day and age.

I like it that he's pulling aside the curtain to show us the mechanisms of the Class War. He's talking about how money is influencing politics, and how the people are losing because of it. He's speaking the language that anybody in jeans and a workshirt can understand. The "suits," the corporate lawyers, the insurance execs, the bankers, the downsizing and outsourcing CEOs, are the people the common man naturally distrusts. With good reason.

He's speaking to the awareness that greed isn't good, that those who live for money are picking our pockets, and the government is acting in collusion with corporate plunderers who are taking from us and giving us almost nothing in return. That our government as it stands is working to protect them, to hold them behind walls of legality while the rest of us scrabble and suffer.

And he's saying this out loud, speaking to the very heart of the hard-working sod just trying to feed his or her family...to buy a house, or send at least one kid to college. To have a chance to build a better future for his or her kids.

Saying it out loud, pointing this out to the common man or woman, is not a way to win friends in high places. If he's selling "snake oil," what's the end game? To be President to what--help the friends he doesn't have? We know what Bush's friends are getting out of HIS administration.

How many Jack Abramoff's do you think are on John's Christmas Card list? How many insurance company execs show up to his barbecues? How many media moguls do you think the Edwards family plays kissy-face with? How many Saudi Princes know him by name?

One thing I'll bet on. He has very little in common with the people in the White House now. Rich or not, I'll bet he has more in common with US in that regard than any Bush.

I think he's a winner for all of these reasons and more.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:19 AM
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1. Recommended.
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urbuddha Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:51 PM
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33. Does he still have that thing[mole maybe?] above his lip ?
Just curious.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:14 PM
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44. No, but he's got rising poll numbers for mid-November forward.
I think he'd probably rather have the rising poll numbers.
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youngharry Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:50 PM
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43. John Edwards and NBC
Brian Williams just announced that the 2 leading Candidates for the Democratic Party were Hillary and Obama. I sent them an email and thanked them for telling us who the leading candidates were, but that we, in the Democratic Party, would determine who the candidate would be. Everyone should email or call [email protected]
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:16 PM
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45. I'll go along with that, youngharry, and will send along an email
expressing concern about the network's impulse to ignore other candidates.

Good deal. Thank you.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:19 AM
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2. That's why he has my vote.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:22 AM
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3. I was just about to
sign off and I saw your post. I sure liked that interview he did with KO tonight and that ad that's just in..Political Videos, too.

I know the m$$$$m will continue to crucify him but I want him to break through all that..this isn't 2000 or 2004 anymore.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:22 AM
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4. But he won't do speaking engagements for free so he's the devil
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 12:24 AM by Der Blaue Engel
Sorry, I just can't go over that one. :rofl:

(I'm for Edwards, too, and you are right on. :thumbsup:)

edited for mental breakdown typo
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:32 AM
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21. No, the devil is the one telling him to bail on same-sex marriage.
He's hardly alone, though, and otherwise he's pretty cool.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:23 AM
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5. I agree. Plus, personally, I like that he was involved in 2004 in a
way that gives him insight into issues, I mean up close and personal insight into issues, like, for example the "corporate media" and our "election process."

I think Edwards is a fighter. I think he is fighting for America and for average American citizens against the corporate interests that have literally taken over our government, against corruption in government and against the NeoCon agenda. Edwards has taken on big adversaries before, and like you said, he won.

Go John!
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:25 AM
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6. I'm strong for Edwards!!!
:kick:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:28 AM
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7. Yes. His stance on lobbying is very much in the direction of the people.
I loved hearing him talk about lobbying derailing the will of the people.

This is going to be a great year. If only they could all be in the Oval office.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:41 AM
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8. All the reasons he's my choice too. Thanks! (n/t)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:43 AM
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9. A kick for the Carolinian.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:47 AM
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10. So we can pull out of the WTO?
and square the $50 billion deficit with the manufacturing we no longer have.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:54 AM
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11. We need to reinvest in America.
I don't know anything about the WTO at this point.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:42 AM
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13. Agreed. The WTO has 15O member countries.
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 02:03 AM by lamprey
Most of the rest are currently applying. It is the international body that regulates trade. Most notably it restricts tariffs, quotas and subsidies between member countries on a set slate og goods (generally not farm produce). It also protects copyright, patents, trademarks and other intellectual property. More or less all the industrialized world belong to the WTO. Tariffs and quotas would give US manufacturers some break against imports. It would also open the door for any WTO country to place discriminatory prohibitions against American goods. IP becomes difficult to enforce, pleasing Microsoft etc al. immensely. Outside the WTO the US is free to negotiate bilateral trade agreements with anyone one, for example Australia. Generally we can poll out of any trade agreement with six months notice - eg. NAFTA.
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Reno.Muse Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:11 AM
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12. John Edwards will be the Seabiscuit candidate. He will win. He hopes with us
for a better way in America.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:42 AM
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14. John Ewards has my vote!! He is a wonderful man!! eom
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:48 AM
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15. Right on Mythsage. Watched Edwards hour long interview
on Charlie Rose. He has grown so much. His convictions
are palpable.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:54 AM
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16. I feel the same. He's got my vote.
Every time I hear him speak I feel more strongly about it. I hope that as President he could actually accomplish his goals. Money is power and as you point out he's threatening the rich and powerful.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:40 AM
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17. How many Jack Abramoffs are on John Edwards' Christmas list?
That says it all. I back John Edwards.

He is talking about the one topic Republicans don't dare talk about: Two Americas, the increasing divide between the rich and poor in our country.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:20 PM
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30. misplaced
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 01:21 PM by defendandprotect
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:07 AM
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18. Kick and Rec for Edwards!
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:09 AM
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19. Agreed.
Anybody who counts Edwards out is in for a big surprise.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:10 AM
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20. It sounds as if you are basing your support on his words rather than his deeds
He was a coporate support while in Congress. Check his record. Clinton, Obama, Biden are much more liberal and supporting the little guy in their deeds than Edwards is.


He is putting on a show to win an election. He has appeared to transform. It is too quick a transformation for me.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:38 AM
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22. We need John Edwards
To lead us out of our mess.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:52 AM
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23. Hey there! Another good one.You sure can write Mythsaje!
Edwards is beginning to surge and he is doing it without a lot of money.He isn't trying to "buy " this election and that indicates "solid' support! Edwards is hitting the right buttons because unlike the former frontrunner, he speaks for us! thank you Mythsaje, great post!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:25 PM
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24. Yesirree!
THIS is the MAN - THIS is the MOMENT! I'm tickled to be able to watch this pivotal moment in US history where the people finally get a voice FOR THEMSELVES in the oval office. Yes!!!

:kick: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Johnny GO!
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:27 PM
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25. Recommended. For all you note, and others, Edwards evokes
actionable words; targets for change in a corrupting government. For those who mock his words,Bah! Look at his life: successful, resourceful, intelligent, indeed, one who has endeavored to perservere. If one has enmities and disdain against such qualities, for such a one as might work to uphold and strive for such qualities, then reason cannot achieve consensus with that individual.

There is no reason to reject the premises that Edwards represents. If one has another choice of candidate, fine. Just don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

NoFederales
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:42 PM
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26. Man! Can not believe I missed this!
Wonderful post. And welcome to the greatest thread page.

Feels good don't it?

Do you hear us America? Edwards 08
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:51 PM
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27. Edwards is my choice, as well
He's the only one I am enthusiastic about, and think he'll try his best to right many of the wrongs created by greedy neocons over the last all too many years.
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Michael101 Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:05 PM
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28. All Talk and no action...
Don't you think that if Mr. Edwards join Dennis Kucinich on trying to impeach Dick Cheney we would get a lot done in the congress.

Hmmm... I wonder why. Oh that's right he doesn't want to jeopardize his chances on the presidency. Wow he's really thinking about the people he's going to be serving.


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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:24 PM
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32. And how do you propose he do that, considering he's no longer
a member of Congress?
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Michael101 Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:29 PM
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34. He doesn't have to be a member of congress...
Imagine if publicly announced that George Bush or Dick Cheney should be impeached what a great statement that would be.

In one of the debates they asked all the candidates if they would support DK in impeaching DC and no one, including Mr. Edwards raised his hand.

No Guts, No Glory.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 11:43 AM
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49. It is Edward's job to win this thing, not polarize himself.
He is calling the Washington/corporate system corrupt, I'm sure he is not against impeachment. Unfortunately there are those in the media who would still brand a person a fringe radical if pushing for impeachment. You can bet they would jump all over Edwards, as he is already a threat to the whole corrupt system. He is wise in being silent on the matter.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:19 PM
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29. Well, the "Ron Paul"/Dennis thing has moved me completely to Edwards ---
and I think we should be discussing VPs . . .
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Michael101 Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 02:36 PM
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35. Ron Paul
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 02:46 PM by Michael101
I think that you should go back and consider Mr. Dennis Kucinich. Hasn't his record not shown you what he stands for, and how he's NOT EASILY INFLUENCED.

Always voted with his heart and people in mind.

I trust Mr. Dennis Kucinich he has proven to me that he is a man of integrity.

The Ron Paul does not bother me. I know what RP stands and I don't like it either but maybe DK thinks that they could bring a good balance.

Maybe RP can do the fiscal and economy stuff. I don't know.

but what I do know is that ACTIONS speak louder than words. And DK has proven to me that he can be trusted NOT because he says so, but

because HIS RECORD SHOWS IT.

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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:21 PM
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46. That's what made me move from DK to JE
Anyone who would ticket with loony tunes Republican trash isn't someone I can support.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 01:21 PM
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31. Let's hope he gets to the WH with Elizabeth --- the better half of the team . . .
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:08 PM
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36. Love Your Comments... Been My Choice BEFORE Many Others Have
come to realize that he IS actually genuine. ALL candidates have flaws, if they didn't we may as well construct a ROBOT for President! Oh, excuse me, WE ALREADY have one!!!!!
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 03:11 PM
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37. Good post, wish more Dur's would do the same when talking about why they like a certain candidate...
There is no reason to bash others, such actions remind me of grade school antics, why not just stick to the facts? Anyway, well said.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:08 PM
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38. WELL, you sold me after the first sentence!
lol... but still, great job!

and I concur with you...

he's our hope -

GO JOHN!

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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:31 PM
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39. You didn't convince me
But things crystallized for me a bit today, and I sent John what little I could afford. There. Money now placed where my mouth has been taking me. I guess I am no longer on the fence. And so I get around to reading your post, and my inner self nods in agreement as your words roll on. If nothing else, this country needs someone who knows that greed is not good, that government's right role is to serve the people, and that liberty cannot be sustained by lies or equivocation.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:34 PM
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40. Edwards '08 n/t
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 07:50 PM
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41. There's a reason why Musharraf jailed the lawyers and juges first...
a lot of people forget about that when they're talking about them here at home.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:55 PM
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42. You hit dead center.........
John Edwards holds real people values and would make a good president, even though the bar is as low as a painted line.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:21 PM
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47. DK is my #1, but John Edwards is a close second. n/t
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:25 PM
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48. Excellent post, Mythsage K&R n/t
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