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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:58 PM
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Important Question...Please take a moment...
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 01:06 PM by lala_rawraw
Click on either of these two links and tell me if you have problems accessing the pages, such as "page not found" etc. If you do have problems, please note who your ISP is. Thanks :)

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_Permanent_Republican_...
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/The_permanent_Republican_...

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If you have ATT or BellSouth, please try this and also the Google cache.

If you don't have those ISPs, see about the Google cache.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 12:59 PM
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1. keeping kicked
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:00 PM
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2. Nope, I got both of them. -n/t
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:01 PM
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5. who is your ISP?
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:02 PM
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9. Comcast, in Tallahassee, FL (wherever that puts the server). -n/t
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:00 PM
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3. both worked for me. nt
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:01 PM
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4. They loaded, but slowly.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:02 PM
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7. something damn strange is going on...
I could not load both either from my two computers or from my neighbor's machine. We have the same ISP. I tried to get the google cache, but it too is missing.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:10 PM
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22. It looks like Google hasn't cached those pages.
There doesn't appear to be a Google cache for either page, so I doubt that the lack of a cache is a problem with your ISP.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:11 PM
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25. how does google cache work?
do they not cache daily?

still can't figure out why we are not able to access the links. i need someone who is on either of those carriers in the south to try this out.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:21 PM
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35. How often they cache would depend on how often they spider a site.
I would imagine that a news site like rawstory would be spidered daily. I don't know all of the details about how they decide whether or not to cache.

It looks like the second link hasn't even been indexed yet. The first one is indexed but with no cache.

A website can put things in the page or the headers that tell search engines not to cache pages. Do you know whether or not rawstory does anything like that?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:57 PM
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49. well i for one
have not a clue as to how any of this works... i am just happy to have power back and access to those pages again.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:01 PM
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6. both worked for me
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:02 PM
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8. It came through all right, my isp fairpoint communications
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:02 PM
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10. Both worked fine for me -- a little slow, but not too bad. n/t
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:02 PM
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11. Fine, fine.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:03 PM
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12. are any of you on AT&T or BellSouth?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:03 PM
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13. Both loaded rapidly.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 01:04 PM by drm604
Even the ads.

Verizon DSL.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:04 PM
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14. Can someone with AT&T or BellSouth try?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:05 PM
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15. Anyone on AT&T or Bellsouth out there?
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:06 PM
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17. I have AT&T in Wisconsin and both links work for me n/t
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:07 PM
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18. okay, but that is north backbone...
I cannot account for why my neighbor and I cannot access either link or the Google cache.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:05 PM
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16. They both worked for me
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:09 PM
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19. Both worked fine for me
I am on one of the providers you mentioned.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:10 PM
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21. north or south?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:11 PM
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23. I live in West Texas
That's as much info as I care to give.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:12 PM
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26. no prob, thank you:)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:15 PM
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33. Do try the usual measures
Clear cookies and cache, history. Scandisk. Defrag. Run anti-spyware programs. Check firewall settings. Also, use this baby. It fixes a lot of bugs:

http://www.ccleaner.com/download

In addition, my former dial-up ISP used to block certain sites on port 80. Only it didn't do it when I used Firefox.

Just throwing ideas out there for ya.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:17 PM
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34. I only use firefox...
Tried every measure I could think of, including cleaning cache, defrag, rebooting, same issue. On both machines and neighbor. I will try that baby you got there...maybe that will work. But how would it be possible for a bug to be in two separate homes?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:24 PM
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37. I would have to be sitting in front of your machines to find out
But most definitely use that software. They don't call it crap cleaner for nothing. You might also want to try looking at the programs that autostart when you boot up. There is a program called XTEQ that allows you to tweak hidden files and programs, including auto-loading programs. As well I like HiJackThis because it kills Browser Helper Objects. HiJackThis is free but XTEQ cost money now. Although, if you wish I can arrange for you to download an older, free version ;)

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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:56 PM
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48. is there a way to see if
your computer is being accessed? i have firewalls and such, but hell, given what i do, i am developing tin foilitis ;)

and sure, any software would be great... i did download that cleaner, but since the power came on, i can access the two pages (strange, though).
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:13 PM
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53. Hey, sometimes a reboot is all it takes
I'm not a true geek, I just play one on the Interwebs. I am not skilled or knowledgible enough to tell you how to detect true spying. I would definitely check to see if any rootkits or keyloggers are installed. Your firewall should protect you from most physical attempts to scan your machine. Truth is, there's a lot of adware/spyware/malware out there and there's are new variants made every day.

In fact, I had to clean my Linux PC of cookies because RawStory displayed a kinda scary geo-targeted ad. I may have picked the bug up from another site and it kicked in when I visited Raw. Does RawStory take ads from Dick Blick Art supplies? Not accusing, just curious.

I'm thinking there's some new, hellish Flash exploits out there that are screwing with my browser.

As far as that program, I will PM you with a link.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:09 PM
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20. can a techie tell me if there is a logical
reason for this so I don't go all tinfoil?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:13 PM
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29. I can tell you that there is very likely a logical explanation
although I can't tell you for sure what it is. What do you see when you try to load them?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:15 PM
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32. I get
Page not found error. When I go to cache, I get nothing at all. I tried this on both computers and also my neighbor, same problem.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:22 PM
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36. Can you load other rawstory pages?
Can you load the main page?
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:49 PM
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40. yes... all of them
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:14 PM
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41. Did you see my suggestion in post #38?
Try that and tell me if it works.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:53 PM
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45. i did just now...
but it did not matter, because as soon as i got power back, then it all worked. i guess storm glitch, right? or no? i don't know how this all works in terms of storms and pages on a site, etc.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:11 PM
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24. no prob-ATT in Texas
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:12 PM
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27. kick
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:13 PM
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28. Both quickly loaded with Verizon FiOS in Rockville MD (nt)
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:13 PM
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30. Let's try it this way...
Anyone with those two carriers in the southeastern part of the country... please give this a try. Apparently the north and west are working fine. So that still leaves open a region in which I am currently at...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:14 PM
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31. No problem either link.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:31 PM
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38. Lala, try loading the www version of those pages.
Put www. in front of rawstory.com in those URLs and see if that works.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:51 PM
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44. okay...
so there is a storm and the power went out... when it came back, i could access the pages. was it a storm glitch then?
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:23 PM
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55. Not likely.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 04:24 PM by drm604
It's more likely that the computers rebooting fixed something. Either that or it was some sort of net glitch that coincidentally was fixed during the time the power was out. Or maybe there was some kind of page or address caching going on somewhere.

Anyway, glad to hear that it's working now. I was pretty sure that it wasn't some kind of conspiracy, but these days I can't blame you for being a little suspicious.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 01:46 PM
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39. Both loaded just fine for me. n/t
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:27 PM
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42. cox.net loads them both up quickly here in San Diego
nt
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:29 PM
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43. both worked for me. Time Warner. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:54 PM
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46. No problem I guess Time Warner is not playing the games
:-)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:55 PM
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47. I'm in NC, on Verizon, and both links work OK. nm
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:58 PM
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50. No problems.
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:59 PM
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51. thank you everyone...
it appears the storm, power down, then power up resolved the issue - i don't know how exactly, but it works now. magic perhaps, but thank you for trying to help :)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:07 PM
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52. We all sport the foil chapeaux now, m'dear. . . You might just
be our Canary, so we have to pay attention.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:15 PM
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54. AT&T Downtown Los Angeles here...
Worked well for me!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:26 PM
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56. I'm on Bellsouth, both worked nt
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 04:32 PM
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57. no problems on MediaCom cable
... serves a bunch of rural areas. They tend to have very light filtering, mostly for e-mail spam.
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