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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:41 AM Original message |
Who was the first neocon? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. Satan. nt |
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negativenihil (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. C'mon... |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. Leo Strauss |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. ding! |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
41. Nope, Carl Schmitt, who Strauss studied and Hitler employed. |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. they follow Leo Strauss but he was much earlier |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. In that case I'd have to say Aristotle |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. Evil doesn't have a start date (n/t) |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Does it have an expiration date? |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Judgement day, although no one knows when that will be (n/t) |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. do you really believe that, judgement day |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. Greedy Eve who just had to take a bite from the forbidden apple........ |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Cain |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Cain |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. Niccolò Machiavelli |
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RebelSansCause (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. the Nazi's distorted Nietzsche and his sister who published his later works under |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I didn't say Nietzche was a Nazi |
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RebelSansCause (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. it's implication is obvious |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Well, that's not what I meant by my statement |
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RebelSansCause (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. i am not saying i understand you better than you do |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Hey, no problem |
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RebelSansCause (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. quite, we don't want the neocons to have us fight with each other |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. Genghis Khan |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Thrill of conquest is inaccurate. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. This only goes to prove my point... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. My first response would be Leo Strauss, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. And you are wrong on both, he is a trained classicist, and his model is |
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Mr_Monday (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Neocons |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
14. Who was the first person to say this land here, this is mine |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
16. I was going to say Cain too.... |
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Bright Eyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
17. Irving Kristol |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That's right - Irving Kristol, William's dad. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. DING. DING. DING. DING |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. Scoop Jackson. . . . . . .n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
31. Pontius Pilate? |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I thought he wanted to free Jesus. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
34. Tomás de Torquemada |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
35. Tomás de Torquemada dupe posted while being waterboarded. |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
37. Benedict Arnold? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
39. Hitler? |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-28-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Hitler's idol- Carl Schmitt |
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CAG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-29-07 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
42. This guy... |
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