Lies that You Must Believe - The Money Party (3)

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Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0711/S00308.htm

M.Collins: The Money Party (3)

Bansky

Big Lies that You Must Believe

Michael Collins
Scoop Independent News
Washington, D.C.

Because if you don't, the whole scam may fall apart.

Previously in The Money Party series, we discussed the fact that there is only one political party in the United States, The Money Party. It has two wings, Republican and Democratic. That party represents excessive concentrations of wealth in the hands of corporations, other organizations, and individuals. They put up the money and get what they pay for every time.

They make sure that the election system is rigged to rely on money like a junkie relies on heroin. The system takes care of them. They don't have to obey the same rules that we do. Why? Because they're above the law.

The Money Party owns the mainstream media entirely. NBC is really General Electric, ABC is Disney, CBS was Viacom but now it's just the name for a mega-corporation, and Fox is News Corp., the Rupert Murdoch financial empire. That's why it's called the corporate media. They're publicity shops, "corporate communications divisions," owned and controlled by Money Party members.

The job of corporate media is to emulate George Orwell's "1984" by generating meaningless concepts that bind us to false choices.

It's a series of interconnected lies. Let's look at some of the key lies that we must believe to keep them in power.

Big lie 1: "We're the world's leading democracy." Not since Bush-Cheney took over. We're dropping fast. Maybe it has something to do with the Patriot Act and all that illegal wire tapping of U.S. citizens? Maybe it has something to do with a http://tinyurl.com/2rvlma">Congress that does nothing to stop an out of control president. Ratings on democracy show us behind 14 nations.

SNIP

Big lie 4: "The federal government just screws everything up." Oh, like going to the moon, developing the internet, and providing health insurance (Medicare) for many times less overhead than private health insurance companies. The Money Party hates the government with a passion when it serves the general public. But when the federal government fixes competition so that only big money wins, when it ignores problems that might require some sacrifice, and when it prolongs a war for profits, the federal government is their best friend.

It's not a conspiracy. It's just what they do, what they've always done…further their own interests at our expense. There used to be some restraint to maintain appearances but the Money Party is now on steroids.

SNIP

In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible.
George Orwell

ENDS
Previously:
The Money Party – The Essence of Our Political Troubles
The Money Party (2) – Why We Get Such Lousy Leaders and How to Get Rid of Them

Permission to reproduce in whole or part with attribution of authorship and a link to this article in Scoop.

Full article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0711/S00308.htm

[Kurovski]

1. K&R.

Going to Scoop now to read it.

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2. You're up late/early

Ola, enjoy our freedom while waiting to get shut down by H.R. 1955.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-993&sort=vote

[Kurovski]

5. Time is just a construct of our alien overlords.

;-)

It might be just me, but the links in your article are leading me to "The page cannot be displayed".

America is 14th in Democracy worldwide. Not very special, is it?

Edit: Oops. No, I guess America would actually be rated #15, since 14 other nations are ahead if it.

[Clark2008]

12. I'm not quite sure how my Representative is still a Republican:

Nay TN-2 Duncan, John

He also voted against the Iraqi War Resolution and most of the subsequent funding.

Wow... I'm lucky that I have a Republican who acts like an old Dem.

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27. Duncan is on the honor roll!

H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (Vote On Passage - Passed 404 to 6 (3 Dems/3 Reps voting no)
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2007-993&sort=vote

HERE'S THE HONOR ROLL (READ THE BILL, IT'S A NIGHTMARE)
Representative

Nay HI-1 Abercrombie, Neil Dem
Nay IL-12 Costello, Jerry Dem
Nay TN-2 Duncan, John Rep
Nay AZ-6 Flake, Jeff Rep
Nay OH-10 Kucinich, Dennis Dem
Nay CA-46 Rohrabacher, Dana Rep

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I'm going to check out Mr. Duncan. This bill is the biggest assault on free expression on the internet that I've seen. It turns outrage against the administration (any to follow) in to outrage that might "facilitate" attacks on the U.S.A. Wow.

Look at the list above. Rohrabacher is my least favorite face (until this) on the tube but he stood with Kucinich on October 23, 2007.

Live and learn. Thanks for sharing.

[K Gardner]

42. Just read the Bill.. it IS a nightmare, how did I miss this?

Or has it not been covered anywhere but on the internet??

Now it goes to the Senate.. will they pass it, too??

*In a slowly heating bathtub, you'd be boiled to death and never know it*

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48. I missed it until DUer reprehensor posted his open letter to Jane Harman, Subcomm. Chair,.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2312655

It's on of the first full responses. Only six voted against it. Interesting collection form
opposite ends of the spectrum.

"The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change."

As I read it, if you say something that gets someone angry enough to do something stupid, then this
bill covers you. The reference to the Engineers group is specious. I don't agree or disagree with
them but their position won't make anyone do much.

Here's a little on the committee hearing.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7339

But this is just another big lie put forth by The Money Party that's designed to throw us off track.
We are not allowed to get these questions answered. in fact, we can't even ask the questions.

- Why are we still in Iraq?
- What about th electoral mandate?
- Why did it take CBS to discover this? http://tinyurl.com/yv9xvh
(This is what we want MSM to do. What a blockbuster. Kudos for Armen Keteyian of CBS.

[K Gardner]

50. Thank you for this info ! Now if we could only "plant" a debate question about it! n/t

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60. My dream...the aware, an there are many, get to ask questions.

And how about this one: "Mr. Rudy, what do you have to say about the 1,100,000 dead Iraqi civilians due to this war?"

[K Gardner]

41. You're in my district!

Hey there..just ran across this and saw you're in JDs district, too!

I go about 10 rounds with his aides every other year or so over something or another. Most recently, his NO vote on SCHIP and his refusal to vote to override the veto. But I agree his Iraq votes are reason to cheer. Its awfully good to know I'm not the only DU'er in this part of Tennessee !

[HCE SuiGeneris]

3. K&R... I've some reading to do.

You do fine work Mr. Collins.

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28. Thanks! I too am a BushDespiser ...

It's really time for Impeachment, like right now. Instead of passing stupid legislation attacking free speech on the internet and groups that express themselves honestly and with real questions about PTB, they should stop the killing in the name of .... Bush-Cheney & Congress...

[leftchick]

4. excellent!

K&R!

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29. A little left, right;)

:hi:

[leftchick]

32. right!

:hi:

[Kurovski]

6. So I'm wondering,

now that I've read this and responded in agreement, am I too a terrorist?

Wouldn't it have been fun if H.R. 1955 was numbered as H.R. 1984?

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30. It would be but they have no sense of irony or sport.

They'll just do stupid things and ignore the real issue - death in Iraq, threats of mega death due to climate change (not on AOL News - yesterday - pretty popular topic).

I think the label "philospher king" is better for you!

[lonestarnot]

7. Most excellent!

Thank you! :thumbsup:

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31. Thank you for your feedback.

:thumbsup:

[LWolf]

8. I hear Big Lie # 2 quite a bit:

Big lie 2: "Just let the markets handle it. The free enterprise system will work it out." This is supposed to appeal to our love of capitalism. Well, we don't have capitalism in the United States.

We have socialism for the rich and survival of the fittest for the rest of us.

When you hear about the wisdom of "the markets," you know that The Money Party is attacking some new law or regulation that might give us an equal footing and create real competition. The party can't stand free enterprise because it won't play any game that it might lose. Count on it. NAFTA - just let the markets handle it. Health care – it's the market at your service. Pollution – you guessed correctly, it's a "market thing. "We wouldn't understand." Dumping mercury in the Great Lakes, it all makes sense to the party.

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52. Me too.

I'd heard it so much, it almost made sense...but it's just the "bottle rocket" theory of economics.
Just fire off a bunch of them, it's all good. That's what Russia did when they left their version of
socialism behind. It was the 'Wild East' and the results are obvious.

There are more little gems, quite a few. We can all collect them, have a top 10 phrases that make
no sense.

[truedelphi]

72. If you haven't seen the hilarious rendition of

The greeat genius and intellect behind the Stock Market you should check it out:
http://tinyurl.com/2wpm8w

It describes in a nutshell the in's and out's of our "free market" society

[LWolf]

76. Thanks, lol. n/t

[Perry Logan]

9. SECURITY! Someone's at the wrong forum.

The thesis of the thread is that there is no Democratic Party, that there is no significant difference between the parties. This is hardly a novel line of thinking in the world today. I'm sure you've all heard it a million times, from a million different sources.

The idea is pandemic among alienated white-guy types. You hear it from libertarians. You hear it from conspiracy guys. You hear it at StormFront, if you dare to go there. You hear it mostly from extremely alienated people--fine folks, most of them, but staggeringly alienated. For these poor people, there is no help from the Democratic Party.

You can see why the right-controlled corporate media would want to spread this idea as much as possible: it weakens and demoralizes the left, which is what the mainstream media is for. Needless to say, alienated people are easy prey for bummer scenarios like this.

I guess this thread is for Democrats who like to be insulted. We were just too dumb to see we're exactly the same as the Republicans. Hilk! We were fooled. We're sheeple. Silly us!

Other people who don't seem to know are the world's sociologists, historians, journalists, or political scientists. Only the people with a bad case of angst can see through the bullshit.

Besides being right-wing propaganda and an excellent recipe for total despair , the meme is based on an almost total ignorance of the Democratic record, which is, oddly enough, totally different from the Republican record.

In any case, I wonder if this theme--diverting though it may be--is all that appropriate at a Democratic forum. The writers are trying to win converts to their depressive point of view. This nonsense cannot possibly help us.

[Selatius]

10. There is a Dem Party. It's just too close to the Repubs on several key issues.

That's the intellectual laziness that Nader can be faulted upon, but what is oft unmentioned is that the Democratic Party's record, for instance, on foreign policy, is too much the same with the Republican record on foreign policy since the end of the Second World War. There has scarcely been a few years where the US government has not intervened somewhere in the world in third world countries, often with devastating consequences for the locals.

[Perry Logan]

11. I largely agree with you about our foreign policy. But not the whole "parties are the same" meme.

And even in foreign policy, I think the Democrats have a far better record. There's a "Bill Clinton Boulevard" in Kosovo. We had allies under Bill Clinton; we have none under Bush. If the parties are marching to the same master, they sure are behaving differently.

[Selatius]

13. It's the foreign policy that's killing us. That's what people are forgetting.

If you don't want more terrorist attacks on US soil, then the Democratic Party must demonstrate that they truly will establish a different foreign policy than what we currently have in the Clinton-Bush era, which is intervention and military adventurism.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

26. The Bush Administration has essentially GUARANTEED another attack against us.

Blowback.

The latest and greatest will likely arise from this administration's AFRICOM.

Our foreign policy. What is it?

Our foreign policy has been and IS about the best interests of U.S. corporations. Human beings are dirt.

[puebloknot]

21. You're referencing our past, under Bill Clinton. In the present...

...nothing substantive is getting done by the Dems to counteract Bush's disastrous "leadership" over the last seven years. We have become a pariah among nations. And our foreign policy record, today, can be summed up with one word: Iraq! And that "independent" Dem-controlled Congress just keeps writing the checks for the war!

You're not imagining there's going to be a Hillary Clinton Boulevard in Baghdad, are you? After the Dems save us, that is!

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57. Bill Clinton was the consumate diplomat-leader and they all knew he'd prefer to talk and work things

out. I'm not talking about Clinton. I'm referring to the last seven years of absent party leadership.
Post 2001, Al Gore, after his self imposed exile, has been the leader I most admire. As for
domestic issues, check out the Senate roll call votes on Bush tax cuts and the bankruptcy bill on
economic justice and the FISA bills. There's a core 16-20 something Democratic Senators who
consistently vote with Bush, the most conspicuous being Feinstein. The tax cuts have threatened
the fiscal picture left by Clinton and thus Social Security. The bankruptcy bill is a nightmare
that is becoming more evident. The only good thing to say about that one is that there was no
provision for debtor prisons. This is the type of voting that would make any of the Democratic
presidents since FDR simply gag. It's not the Democratic Party I grew up in.

An what of the progressive wing? Take a look at Florida 2006. The Florida Democratic Party failed
to fund even one of the eight progressives running for Congress. Not one penny. Only one candidate
got money from the national/state official party, DCCC's $1500 for David Bruderley. On the other
hand FDP and DNC gave to two last minute Republicans turned Democrats, one running for Foley's
seat. The California progressives and regular Democrats wanted to censure Feinstein recently
as you probably saw here on DU. The motion was not allowed. And now the H.R. 1955 bill. One
outcome is going to be a real pull back on internet intensity and dialog for fear of being labeled
someone who "facilitates" dreadful acts that have nothing to do with anything said. That passed by
404 to 6.

Time for new leadership and a party that reflects the membership, not the big money dues owed for
all that cash raised. Kerry proved that we can raise huge sums from modest donations. Why not
follow that model instead of one that requires House candidates to have $250,000 on hand to get
funded by the party (at least in Florida 2006)?

[truedelphi]

78. And in California, even $ 250,000 of your own money is not gonna get you any where

Steve Westly wanted to run for Governor against Schwartzennegger.

The guy has plenty of bucks. we are talking Billions. Voters liked him - and despite the absence of the traditional party support, he forced the other Democratic primary candidate, Phil Angelides, to a run off.

But the Democratic Party wanted a party loyalist (ie Angelides) run against
Ahnold. Despite Angelides having all the charisma of a rodent. Their decision guaranteed that Ahnold was a shoe-in.

So the question becomes - is the Dem leadership in CA that stoopid??

Or is the Dem leadership here just a group of GateKeepers who will help the Repugs for whatever they get in return, (Money, contracts, a promise that the skeletons will remain in the closet, etc)
and nothing more than that?

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83. Well, ask yourself this.

Can you win by losing?

[truedelphi]

85. The Dems in power have got to be winning by losing SOMEHOW

Haven't gotten the secret file that spells it out yet though.

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88. It may well have something to do with the revolving door.

You get in, you support the "right stuff" and then you're rewarded on the way out the door.

It's worth looking at how the new House members voted on key issues.

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56. "Bipartisan foreign policy."

This was the sacred phrase, invoked with the corollary, don't criticize the president when he/she is
traveling overseas. How strange Jefferson and Jackson would have found this. They each took huge
volumes of abuse from opponents and the press and they gave it right back. There were debates on
foreign olicy at a time when the United States was a new country. We didn't trash free speech and
start censoring the press after the War of 1812. What's the problem with dialog now, robust dialog?

Bipartisan foreign policy has been to our detriment, with the exception of World War II and some
other period I can't think of;)

I saw a list of military engagements in a book by Gore Vidal - like the one you mentioned.

This looks like a pretty decent list.

http://www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/interventions.htm

[mod mom]

14. Democratic Party has two parts 1. Corporatists and 2. Populists

Whether you want to support the faction that works for and represents the people or the corporations is up to each individual.

If you've devoted a large chunk of your life to exposing the last couple of stolen elections, like Auto has, and been shocked by that portion of the Democratic leadership which likes to sweep it under the rug, (thus protecting the neocon thugs who have not only stolen them but have caused destruction and havoc on this country) then you will understand what he is talking about. Blind loyalty is NOT PATRIOTIC regardless of what party you support.

[nashville_brook]

24. "trying to win converts to their depressive point of view," that doesn't make it untrue...

or something that we shouldn't concern ourselves with.

and, what's more depressing? confronting the abuse of power or burying one's head in the sand?

[Junkdrawer]

25. Bottom Line: A Democratic politician USED to have a presumption....

of representing the average citizen better than a Republican politician.

That presumption is almost completely gone. It didn't disappear because of some unread rants of "Conspiracy Theorists". It disappeared because of betrayal after betrayal.

"You can fool some of the people, most of the time. You can fool most of the people, some of the time. But you can't fool all of the people, all of the time."

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58. Fooling around is over. We have such a challenge. We need a FDR Democrat

The tasks all involve coordinated government efforts, regardless what the Paul supporters say. I'm
glad they oppose the war but they oppose government action and support unrestricted business practices.

FDR was a great talent scout and manager of huge egos. It was a key part of his job. He chose the
best and knew they required special attention and treatment in some cases. Quite a guy. We need
another like him.

Wouldn't that be great.

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33. Perry, I'm sorry if the truth makes you feel bad.

Why don't you deal with the points and offer some evidence that the information control does not include these elements. I'm happy to respond to that.

I'm not alienated, quite the contrary and I want there to be a diametric difference between the parties, which there was when I became a Democrat.

So talk about content instead of veiled statements that are applied to me.

[truedelphi]

74. Well, many "Democrats" are simply the children of people who were

Really Democrats - but it would be too upsetting to them to find out that
their behavior is actually that of a Nixon era Republican. That when they put their Dady's corporation into bankruptcy and distributed the worker's pensions to themselves through the guise of Golden Parachutes - that that is not exactly what a progressive Democrat would do.

People might not like my saying that HRC is a Nixon era Republican - but that is basically what she is.

The only way that a person can say there is a difference between Dems and Repugs is that nowadays the Repugs are running under the ban of the American Taliban - Jesus on their right hand shoulder and Pat Roberston on their left. So yes there is a difference between Biden and Hillary and obama and a candidate like Mike Huckabee.

But the shame of it is that only Huckabee is aware of how the regressive tax code - left untouched during Bill Clinton's Presidency - is hurting the middle income person in the USA.

[conspirator]

75. You are either brainwashed or making propaganda yourself

It's not about left or right. It's about up and down. Between those who print the money and control the weapon and energy industry,
and those who have to work long hours until they are old or ill.

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80. Yep!!!!! n/t

[Me.]

15. Let's See

At this moment the Dow is down almost 200 and China is telling its citizens to dump dollars. But things are fine and if anyone tells you differently they're big, fat, blue-faced liars.

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34. It's like Slim Pickins in the last seen of Dr. Strangeloge...

Pretending doesn't make it OK. We can't "fake it 'till we make it."

You're right, it's emergency time. These losers running the White House have to go.

Congress is obligated to make that happen. Sooner rather than too late.

Very well said.

[Jim Lane]

16. Millions of minimum-wage workers would disagree

Why did "The Money Party" decide in January 2007 to increase the minimum wage, for the first time in years?

Here's a hint: There are actually two parties, and one of them smacked the other one in the November 2006 elections.

As other responders have said, the Democrats are too close to the Republicans on some issues, but it's just silly to jump from that to saying that there are no real differences between the two parties.

[puebloknot]

17. "...one of them smacked the other one in the November 2006 elections..."

And then they retired to their usual collegial do-nothingness.

The minimum wage is pablum, a distraction to avoid facing the fact that the Dems have done *nothing* to hold accountable the criminals in the White House. Any mature society takes care of the social needs of its citizens -- health care, for example -- as a matter of course, without trying to look heroic because they did what they should have done quietly, without fanfare, years ago.

Millions of minimum-wage workers, if they were really aware, would hardly find it a great bargain to give up their civil rights in exchange for a few dollars more. And just to anticipate your likely come-back: Yes, they *deserve* the few dollars more -- and much more besides.

[tomp]

55. the democratic party is the official bone-throwing wing...

...of the money party.

the only reason we the people get anything is because we fight for it, and then what we get is about one eighth of what we should have got, and probably would have got, had we not slinked off gracefully to gnaw on our bone. the democratic party knows this game very well and plays it to perfection. the new deal was a bargain compared to what a real populist/socialist would have cost the big boys.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

23. Unfortunately, they will be where they were due to increased 'survival' costs.

But, you are correct. The Democrats ARE responsible for increasing the minimum wage. At least, minimum-wage earners will be at status quo rather than worse off than they were.

It saddens me, though. My grandpa was a school-bus driver and was able on his wage to buy a home and sustain his family albeit not much extra. That is not possible, today.

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35. There were real differences, now they fade.

Elected to leave Iraq, Congress does very little to nothing. No oversight hearings to speak of and

NO MENTION THAT 1,100,000 CIVILIANS ARE DEAD IN IRAQ BECAUSE OF THIS WAR

NO MENTION THAT THE SUICIDE RATE AMONG SERVICE PERSONNEL WHO SERVED THERE IS FRIGHTENINGLY HIGH...THE SUICIDE RATE. EITHER NBC OR CBS HAD TO FIND THAT FACTOID.

THAT'S A LACK OF OVERSIGHT.

BRING THE TROOPS HOME.

[NotGivingUp]

64. Why? Because they think we're stupid, idiot, brainwashed people.

They think that little bone..which really isn't a bone with all the high inflation...will convince us that THEY are working for us. I'm not falling for it, and there's a lot of other THINKING people that arent' falling for it either.

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82. They do but we were smart enough to figure out Iraq without MSM.

As Yogi Berra would say, "Who woulda thunk it?"

This is a huge change in the culture, people figuring out the big scam on their own.

The use of the internet is, I strongly suspect, exactly the reason we've got this strange bill,
H.R. 1955, associating the internet with terra and worse. They've spent all this money and
time building the perfect system of control but all they've ended up with is the Maginot Line.

[truedelphi]

73. Except how does the minimum wage help anyone??

It rarely has anything to do with the amount of money needed to survive.

And in places where immigration is rampant - there is no minimum wage - jobseekers MUST tell the storefront owners that they will work under the table. Otherwise they will not get the job.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

18. What they call "capitalism" is really just SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH!!!

No shit!!!

[puebloknot]

19. You're furnishing uppers with this article, I assume!

And you're not making points with those who say, "Yes, Virginia, there still *is* a Democratic Party in America." (You just can't recognize it, Virginia, because it's wearing a big, stuffed bi-partisan harmony suit!)

Great, absolutely accurate article, Mr. Collins! Keep writing. It's just what you do, and many of us believe you! Some don't want nobody bringin' them no bad news, but you can't win 'em all!

[autorank]

43. Hey there.

We face a big task. The masses in the party are unified - out of Iraq, stop dissecting the Constitution, come up with a really good universal health care program. It's not getting across to
the PTB, however. It's like the leadership is playing the old North Carolina four corners stall game.
Hoping that the Republicans will get in ever more trouble, which they will, and make hey when it's
a slam dunk. But, we need some action. I'm amazed that there is all the hesitation on impeachment.
Didn't we have impeachment for lying about sex. Well, this is lying about a war and more on top
of that.

:hi:

[earth mom]

20. K & R & Bookmarked!

:thumbsup:

FYI- Links for parts 1 & 2 don't work.

[Imagevision]

22. Once again! - Big business founded this country naturally big business will continue to run it >

regardless of your party affiliation.

[shance]

53. Yep. They must have owned the information machine from the git go.

For everyone to be so brainwashed and hornswaggled.

Edward Bernays was quite the deceitful magician.

The only way those in power can remain in power is by hornswaggling and brainwashing and telling us to shop until we drop.

[me b zola]

36. k&r

:kick:

[lonestarnot]

37. kicking this where it belongs!

:kick:

[KoKo]

38. Yep....Money Party! K&R!

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44. KoKo01

No irony here. I get all this stuff from Edwards;) Seriously, I'm ready to see him let loose and
just pound on his populist theme relentlessly. He's got the words, now for a little anger. Maybe
he should just think of that stupid hair cut set up and hold that thought. That's an example of
a "big like" in a particular case. Totally irrelevant and outrageous...but hey, that's what the
corporate media does, the bidding of their masters (it was a Washington Post senior guy, I believe,
who invented that non event).

[KoKo]

62. OH...I agree about both parties being the Money Party but with a populist wing on the Dem Side

that doesn't get any respect. Good for Edwards at least giving some cover to us "populists.' He's bringing up the issues the others give a little lip service to...but no depth.

:hi:

[Oldenuff]

39. The links are at the bottom of the article

The first link takes you to part 3.The links at the bottom of that article will take you to 1 and 2.(and they worked for me).

Excellent post.

Looks like we've got nothing to worry about as long as we vote the party candidate.:sarcasm:

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

40. Even those who swear to NEVER FOFGET where they came from,...FORGET.

They "FORGET".

[FogerRox]

45. The Money party, and dont you forget it....

KnR

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47. Time to talk about the big issues.

Iraq, climate change, an economy poised for a fall (further).

We don't need Madam Marie to tell us this. It's obvious.

I want to see one of these candidate debates in front of a Jersey audience. Now that would be
an event to remember.

[Kurovski]

46. Kick. (nt)

[bridgit]

49. No doubt, I went & dug this out of my journal for'ya = money, advertising, mass appeal & propaganda

go too often hand in hand http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x21615

[shance]

51. Kind of sums it up there doesnt it?

n/t

[tomp]

54. just read all three parts. well done!!

that's an awful lot of truth in one place. thanks!

[autorank]

59. Thanks. This is the best place to get feedback, period.

Where else do you get a concentration of people who keep pushing for the common good despite the odds.

:hi:

[rainy]

61. Thanks for this. I'll come back and read it later. nt

[NotGivingUp]

63. I'm very glad to see it on the greatest page, and that it didn't get deleted/locked/disappeared.

If this continues, I just might make a donation.

[autorank]

68. There you go.

Top right corner yesterday, Naomi Wolf; today, Kucinich protesting School of the Americas. The modest Money Party series is at home there;)

Thanks!

[msedano]

65. money makes the world go...

there's the song from cabaret, with the lyric, "money makes the world go around" but that's not what i'm thinking when i read the sobriquet "the money party".

i think of guy grand setting up a large swimming pool filled with money,money,money. but the large denomination bills float in human shit. and people fight each other off for the opportunity to dive in, uncle scrooge-like, to get theirs.

terry southern, the magic christian.

recommended.

mvs

http://labloga.blogspot.com

http://readraza.com

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69. Terry Southern.

A series of images from the past...Dr. Strangelove - the story of our times, all the time.

:hi: Happy Thanksgiving!

[Baby Snooks]

66. The reality

Anyone who takes the time to study the economic history of our country will know that we moved quickly from a democracy to a qausi-oligarchy and have moved finally into an actual oligarchy which perhaps is what Benjamin Franklin was alluding to when he predicted that our Constitution would not survive 200 years and would collapse under the weight of corruption. He knew well the basic greed of man. As did a German banker by the name of Mayer Rothschild.

"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes its laws." And with that, the House of Rothschild was born.

At the time Mayer Rothschild spoke those words, he had five sons with five banks in five countries. And there was a new country, the United States of America, and with that new country came a vision of a central bank in that new country through which the world's banking business could eventually be controlled through it and the five Rothschild banks. And with the new nation came the new capitalism. Venture capitalism. Backed by the Rothschilds. Better than any other standard. Including gold. The great American fortunes, including the fortunes of JP Morgan and the Rockefellers, were built on venture capital provided by the Rothschilds to increase their own wealth and their own empire. And through that empire, the Federal Reserve and the International Monetary Fund were eventually created. To serve the Rothschilds.

Anyone who believes that the Federal Reserve and the International Money Fund are not controlled by the Rothschilds is a total fool. Among the biggest fools are the Bushes. There are now 30 Rothschild banks in 30 countries.

Looks like the Rothschilds no longer like the dollar. Or like it better devalued. Part of the OPEC meeting the other day was "accidentally" televised. Accidentally on purpose no doubt.

According to some historians, Nathan Rothschild went to the London Stock Exchange knowing that the Battle of Waterloo had been won and began selling his bonds, knowing that observers would believe the Battle of Waterloo had been lost and that they would then quickly sell their bonds as well. And of course he bought them back just as quickly as they sold them knowing that as soon as the news hit that the Battle of Waterloo had actually been won, the bonds would go up. Which they did. And so the second creation of the Rotschilds was born. Market manipulation. And the markets have been manipulated, quite openly in some cases, ever since. Bank runs are always started by rumors. Market slides are always started by "news releases." And dollar devaluations perhaps are caused by accidentally televised OPEC meetings.

You have to wonder if a Rothschild was standing by as the OPEC meeting was "accidentally" televised.

JP Morgan and the Rockefellers of course created two banks which are now one. JPMorgan Chase. The Rothschilds most likely have an interest in every bank in this country at this point. In addition to their own.

With 30 banks in 30 countries, it may be that the Rothschilds no longer need a central bank so to speak. They have become the central bank.

Empires rise and fall on the whim, and some say the wisdom, of the Rothschilds. I suspect we are about to fall along with the dollar.

[fascisthunter]

67. I Stopped Believing in the Lies Once it Was Apparent

the Dem leadership was protecting Bush from impeachment. Lot's of corruption in our government these days.

[bleever]

70. Fortunately, we have elections to counterbalance purely monetary interests.

Elections run by experts.



Great series, Mr. Collins. :patriot:

[conspirator]

71. May I suplement your thread with this amazing documentary:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b_6P7LoJVuk

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79. Thanks, I'll check it out. n/t

[Kurovski]

77. Kick. (nt)

[JanMichael]

81. Agreed but on DU some 50% will be offended.

BFD.

I love your post. I am not offended but agree 100%.

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84. Thanks!

Things seem to be going well so far on this thread. I'm encouraged.

[Leo 9]

86. Thanks for posting this article.

I'll have to print it for later use.

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87. Thanks for reading it!

Working at this more compact format for the essentials is good discipline.

Happy Thanksgiving!