If the Freepers think a news source is way too liberal and DUers think it's way too conservative...

[Bicoastal]

...isn't that a good sign it's probably somewhere in the middle?

Or did I just commit treason here?

[Trajan]

1. Nah ... not treason ....

You have only committed a fallacy .....

The fun will be your going to find out which one it is .....

[EFerrari]

2. Freepers have this thinking block so I wouldn't take their opinion

very seriously -- unless you think anti-intellectualism is the road to enlightenment.

[jonnyblitz]

3. what source did you use?nt

[Bicoastal]

4. NPR.

After years of Conservacreeps talking about "that Liberal radio station funded by my tax dollars," I wake up to find out that many here think it's a mouthpiece for the right.

And NPR is one of the few sources that I've always felt never really had much of slant. Guess I was wrong.....?

PS: For the record, Wikipedia mentions the Conservative AND the Liberal bias accusations

[jonnyblitz]

5. I never listen to NPR but I was always under the impression

it didn't have much of a slant or it tended to leaned more liberal. I know wing nuts complain about it being liberal. I have never really heard the opposite. :shrug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

6. Opinions from either end of a spectrum

should be taken with a healthy spoonful of cynicism.

The more likely correct answer is "neither." "Somewhere in the middle" isn't incorrect, but it's far too vague.

[ConsAreLiars]

7. So if some say the earth is flat and others claim it is ovoid,

what would you conclude?

You have to be joking, I hope.

[Bicoastal]

8. Unfair comparison.

A bias is much different than stating plain facts.

[ConsAreLiars]

9. The RW crazies have their "facts" just as do the flat-earthers.

Which you choose to accept as credible is a matter of your own bias, unless you actually do the research. Truth does have a liberal bias, so to speak, but PBS and NPR, like the FCC and so on, have been taken over by RW appointees. Check it out for yourself. Giving any credibility at all to RW rantings is the sign of a weak mind. They are flat-earthers, and if you haven't noticed that, well, sad.

[sandnsea]

10. No, probably purely corporate

And destroying the voice of the people entirely.

[baby_mouse]

11. I thought you were going to say: "why can't we both just agree to boycott it?"

Or "Get rid of it" or something...

[aquart]

12. There's that six of one half a dozen of the other thinking.

Who on earth told you the middle was a good place? Here's Paradise. Here's Hell. In the middle is Purgatory. Still wanna go there?

[Crunchy Frog]

13. The freepers are delusional. They think Faux News is too liberal.

I don't know why anyone would think that their opinions should have any meaning at all to reasonable people.

The "somewhere in the middle" notion is a perfect example of a logical fallacy.

No, you didn't commit treason, just stupidity.

[Perry Logan]

14. No. Wingers think all news is too liberal, no matter what.

[Snarkturian Clone]

15. Thanks for bringing this up.

I've seen it plenty of times here myself re CNN. Users here thinks it's a RW controlled corporate conspiracy propoganda machine while the freepfucks think it's a liberal hippy-run leftist propoganda machine.

[Lord Wortherington]

16. What would you call somebody who contributes to both parties?

An opportunist. The media is biased toward it's own self interest, which is making money for it's parent organizations, which in a lot of cases happen to be defense contractors. It's bias isn't necessarily a political one, it's an economic one.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

17. That depends.

The US TV media sucks, and I don't blame anyone for hating it regardless of their political affiliation. Some of the print media is worthwhile, though. The freepers tend to hate all print media (with several obvious exceptions) because words and ideas scare them.

[tom_paine]

18. In a healthy democratic-Republic with a strong, vigorous, independant Free Press,

what you say would be absolutely, 100% correct.

Be we are NOT living in a strong, healthy democracy, and our Free Press (especially TV, which is how most people get their "news") more frequently looks like Soviet Pravda TV with hot blonde babe anchors and Celebrity News ("Today, Comrade Kasparov's dog bit the leg of a Politburo's son, let's go right to the Show Trial...").

Further, we are living in a time when a tyrannical sub-cabal of our Ruling Class has literally abandoned belief in the principles America was founded on, and have set about making their vision our nightmare. In doing so, they have dusted off the old playbooks of totalitarian evil.

Like the Nazis and Soviets, their propaganda is designed to vortex someone in, turn them into an unquestioning drone, thus making it impossible (or next to impossible, depending on the depth and strength of the programming) for them to ever escape, for all information not sanctioned by Comrade Bushevik Media is immeditaly dismissed, regardless of it's ironclad factuality.

The Free Press has been parasitized and neutralized by the Bushies in a host of different ways, too numerous to mention here (Google it up, many people have marked this occurrance and explained it in detail - be perpared for a long read, though).

I'll give you a clear example of why your comment is correct, yet incorrect for the time and place in which we live. Once I wrote a reporter who did an interview with Annthrax Coulter, in which she glibly and gleefully repeated echoes of old Nazi Propaganda against the Jews (but she called the hated Jews, "Liberals", which makes it OK in our reprogrammed country, to say the vilest things one would never say in public about a race - that's why the Bushies made the change).

So, we dialogued a bit back and forth, and during the conversation the reporter said something close to this, "Look, like most Americans I am just trying to navigate my way to the truth. I watch FOX and I watch CNN. As these are at the extreme ends of the ideological specturm I assume the truth is in the middle."

See? A reporter who should have long ago been schooled in critical thinking skills watches, CNN and FOX then splits the difference to form her "gestalt-based" false reality. Hey, at least she gave it some thought instead of, like most Bushies I have encountered, mindlessly absorbing and regurgitating Hannity, O'Reichley or Savage. She probably wasn't a Bushie, but a misled American.

I wrote her back, saying, "You assume that because FOX is far right, then CNN must be Far Left? Consider this for a moment: What of, over the course of time, CNN has drifted to the Right-Center. NOW when you watch these two channels and 'triagulate' between them, you are now triangulating between Center-Right and Far-Right."

The response? Predicatble silence. End of conversation. I have found the power of denial in (I only have living experience in one, though I have read about many of the rest) a nation which is blatantly and rapdily tranisitioning from Liberty to Tyranny, is magnified tenfold from it's normal power over the minds of us humans. Apparently, the more horrific the truth, the more powerful the denial.

Anyway, no, you did not commit DU "treason". You merely pointed out somthing which was correct and true under the paradigm of Old America (1776-2000, RIP old friend), that has been made untrue now, by circumstance.

It may one day again be true, but for now, looking at BushPutinist Amerika with the same critical analysis one applies to Old America will leave you endlessly confused, because the two nations have very little in common, from their respective core beliefs radiating outwards to all things except whatever vestiges remain from the old ways, which are being eradicated as quickly as possible. In 50 years, few will be left alive who ever experienced a significant portion of their adult lives in Old American Freedom. The BushPutinist State is all they will know.

If you accept the fact (some still dare to call it an unproven assertion still, in spite of the literal mountains of evidence to the contrary) that we are in some variation of what the Caesars did to the Roman Republic, or Hitler to the Weimar Republic, then suddenly, the majority of happenings that seem puzzling suddenly become crystal clear.

Please click on my lower link, which is to a youtube video of a lecture given by Naomi Wolf in which she fleshes these idea out much further and with much better research than I ever could. It is only 47 minutes, but is worth it, if you wish to view it.

[marmar]

19. That assumes that Freepers are rational, thinking beings.......

..... :crazy: :dunce: :dunce: :crazy:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. For the Freeps, anything that is left of "Mein Kampf" or Revelations is "too liberal".

[rug]

21. Scumsucking centrist.