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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:29 AM
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Army: $2.6 Billion Helicopters Unsafe To Fly On *Hot Days*
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 09:30 AM by underpants
http://www.nbc11.com/news/14553593/detail.html

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The Army said Friday it is spending $2.6 billion on hundreds of European-designed helicopters for homeland security and disaster relief that turn out to have a crucial flaw.

An internal report obtained by The Associated Press said the choppers aren't safe to fly on hot days.

The Army said it was scrambling to fix the problem -- potentially adding millions to the taxpayer cost.

During flight tests in Southern California in mild, 80-degree weather, cockpit temperatures in the UH-72A Lakota soared above 104 degrees, the point at which the Army says the communication, navigation and flight control systems can overheat and shut down. <--- ON EDIT-I am not a pilot but that sounds like it could be important, in a helicopter.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:30 AM
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1. Iraq is cool, right?
as is Iran?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:32 AM
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3. We can only attack in the fall and winter
so much for our whole "night time advantage" thing

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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:32 AM
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2. So I guess sothern border watch missions are out of the question?
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 09:32 AM by Cooley Hurd
At least they'll keep an eye on those poor, hungry Canadians crossing the northern border... :rofl:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:34 AM
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4. We are getting back to the military of the Reagan years
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 09:35 AM by underpants
Every 30 minutes *DING* time to flip over (suntanning)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:39 AM
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5. And has any brave pilot flown the Osprey deathtrap in action yet?
we spent how many billions on it, then changed the specs to match the plane, rather than have the plane match the specs, and it still has major problems.

I have heard of no missions, probably due to weather concerns, maintenance, repairs, and inherent weaknesses of that ungainly bird.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:43 AM
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6. Ugh the Osprey
God knows we can't have the welfare of the military get in the way of a government contract!!!

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:05 AM
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7. who is get'n a big ass'd kick back for buying defective deadly war crap....hmmm
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:32 AM
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8. Okay sam take a wild guess..... does Columbus Mississippi mean anything to you
I know this may be a real shocker but
http://tech.military.com/equipment/view/120629/uh-72a-l...

History

In June of 2006 the United States Army selected the Eurocopter EC-145 as its choice for a pre-existing off the shelf FAA certified helicopter to fufill the role of light duty utility helicopter, designating its version as the UH-72A Lakota. The UH-72A will be manufactured in the US at the American Eurocopter facility in Colombus, Mississippi


http://www.eurocopterusa.com/home/default.asp

WALDEN, DAVID ERIC (AMERICAN EUROCOPTER/PRESIDENT OF SA), (Zip code: 76031) $1000 to SENATE VICTORY FUND PAC, THE on 04/26/04
http://www.city-data.com/elec/elec-CLEBURNE-TX.html

SENATE VICTORY FUND PAC
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.asp?strID=C0020...
Senate Victory Fund
Affiliate: Thad Cochran (R-Miss)
2006 PAC Summary Data

Rep. Roger Wicker (R) Miss. 1st district
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:11 AM
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9. are they planning to fix this death trap before they get to murder our troops with it
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:15 AM
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10. Oh, be realistic!
I don't think anyone could have foreseen that the enemy would reside where it's hot. Give the poor defense contractor a break once, wouldja? Besides, there's a fix: Throw more money at the problem. Works every time for military hardware; not so good for roads and schools and such, so we don't use it for things like that.
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