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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:26 PM
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CNN was caught planting questions with students at a 2003 Dem debate!
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 11:46 PM by Dems Will Win

Did Hillary have a prepared answer to Diamonds or Pearls?

HERE'S THE VIDEO OF THE QUESTION: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/11/cnn_denies_diamonds_and_pearl_girl_was_forced_to_ask_question.php

IT certainly seems so, as she used it to deflect criticism that she has trouble saying a simple YES or NO.

It's SOP for CNN! Planting questions, and the recent showing of the questions to candidates HAS TO STOP! This is ridiculous. CNN admitted they showed the questions beforehand to the candidates at the YouTube debate and now the Diamonds or Pearls Question is a repeat of not only the "boxers or briefs" question but also this 2003 plant on "Mac or PC":

What viewers at home did not know, however, is that Maria Luisa, the UNLV student who asked about this wanted to pose an entirely different question — but CNN “encouraged” her to go with the “diamonds or pearl” question.

Marc Ambinder reports on Luisa’s comments in response to criticism she received after the event. Apparently, she wanted to ask about the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository, but CNN pushed her in a different direction.

“Every single question asked during the debate by the audience had to be approved by CNN,” Luisa writes. “I was asked to submit questions including “lighthearted/fun” questions. I submitted more than five questions on issues important to me. I did a policy memo on Yucca Mountain a year ago and was the finalist for the Truman Scholarship. For sure, I thought I would get to ask the Yucca question that was APPROVED by CNN days in advance.” <…>

“CNN ran out of time and used me to “close” the debate with the pearls/diamonds question. Seconds later this girl comes up to me and says, “you gave our school a bad reputation.’ Well, I had to explain to her that every question from the audience was pre-planned and censored. That’s what the media does. See, the media chose what they wanted, not what the people or audience really wanted. That’s politics; that’s reality. So, if you want to read about real issues important to America–and the whole world, I suggest you pick up a copy of the Economist or the New York Times or some other independent source. If you want me to explain to you how the media works, I am more than happy to do so. But do not judge me or my integrity based on that question.”

It’s probably worth noting that CNN has played fast-and-loose before. Remember this one from 2003?

A college student who asked the Democratic presidential candidates at a debate whether they preferred the PC or Mac format for their computers says the question was planted by CNN.

The news network acknowledged Tuesday that a producer went “too far” in telling Brown University student Alexandra Trustman what to ask.

Josh Marshall concludes, “Can we just close down CNN?”

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13619.html

Here is CNN's confession and apology for 2003:

CNN says it went 'too far' in framing student's question

PROVIDENCE, Rhode Island (AP) -- A college student who asked the Democratic presidential candidates at a debate whether they preferred the PC or Mac format for their computers says the question was planted by CNN.

The news network acknowledged Tuesday that a producer went "too far" in telling Brown University student Alexandra Trustman what to ask.

CNN televised the debate, co-sponsored by the nonprofit Rock the Vote organization, last week. It was billed as an event geared to the interests of young people.

CNN spokeswoman Christa Robinson said the cable network regrets the producer's actions. She would not identify the employee.

"In an attempt to encourage a lighthearted moment in this debate, a CNN producer working with Ms. Trustman clearly went too far," she said. All of the other questions from the audience originated from the person asking them, she said.

In an editorial written for the Brown Daily Herald, Trustman said she was called the morning of the debate and given the topic of the question CNN producers wanted her to ask.

Trustman said she was "confused by the question's relevance," and constructed her own question "about how, if elected, the candidates would use technology in their administrations."

But when she arrived in Boston for the debate, Trustman wrote, "I was handed a note card with the Macs and PCs version of Clinton's boxers or briefs question" and told she couldn't ask her question "because it wasn't lighthearted enough and they wanted to modulate the event with various types of questions."

She referred to a 1992 student forum where Bill Clinton was asked what kind of underwear he preferred.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/11/cnn.question.ap/

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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:40 PM
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1. Put 2+2 together
They frame questions.

Ergo, they frame the news.

Face it Americans, we're hamsters.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:48 PM
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2. I think you've found the secret tunnel under everything.
Keep digging.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:50 PM
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3. GET A FUCKING LIFE, PEOPLE!!!!!
THE COLLECTIVE FUCKING IQ OF DU HAS DROPPED 75% IN RECENT DAYS BECAUSE OF THIS STUPID FUCKING PLANTED QUESTION THING. I CAN'T BELIEVE THE ABSOLUTELY STUPID SHIT BEING POSTED BY PEOPLE THAT ALLEGEDLY ARE MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THE GARDEN VARIETY STUPID FUCKING REPUBLICS.

GROW UP, PEOPLE AND GET A FUCKING LIFE!!!!!!! IT'S CALLED POLITICS AND A FUCKING POLITICAL CAMPAIGN, OR DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS????????? IS THIS YOUR IDEA OF INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION OF THE ISSUES???????? EVEN MORE DISTURBING, DO YOU THINK THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE???? THE POTENTIAL ANSWER TO THAT SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME!!!



...sorry... had to get it out of my system
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:52 PM
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4. No, wait, I think YOU have found the secret tunnel under everything.
:hide:
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:55 PM
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6. You're WRONG! YOU have found the secret tunnel under everything!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:59 PM
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8. If too many people find the secret tunnel under everything, it's no longer a secret tunnel.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:54 PM
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5. So you support CNN planting questions and having James Carville as the analyst afterwards?
Don't you see that you've been had?

This is not America and we want it to stop. Not dumb, smart!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:58 PM
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7. DON'T YOU SEE THIS IS A STUPID FUCKING ISSUE?
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 12:00 AM by Gman
IS THE WORLD THAT FUCKING STUPID THAT PLANTING A QUESTION IS AN ISSUE TO PEOPLE????? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE????? AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF CNN OR ANYBODY PLANTS A FUCKING QUESTION. I'M A LOT MORE INTELLIGENT THAN TO GIVE A FUCK. I THOUGHT DU WAS TOO.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:45 AM
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20. ARE YOU SO FUCKING SHEEPISH
THAT YOU FUCKING WANT TO BE LIED TO? DO YOU FUCKING LOVE LIES?

MORE FUCKING LIES PLEASE!!! I FUCKING LOVE THEM!!!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:27 AM
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23. LIES??? YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS KIND OF LIES?
THIS COUNTRY IS STUCK IN A QUAGMIRE IN IRAQ SPENDING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE OF LIES AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT PLANTED QUESTIONS? WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOME TRUTH THAT WILL PROBABLY SHOCK YOU...

THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUSE OR EASTER BUNNY


SO MUCH FOR WORRYING ABOUT STUPID FUCKING LITTLE "LIES"
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:55 AM
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24. Soooo.. that's a yes? n/t
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:00 AM
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9. let's say you are in Las Vegas
and you're sitting at the blackjack table. Then you find out every other player at the table is employed by the casino to make you increase your bets on a losing hand by pushing up the wager, when they all know what the dealer has in her hand.

how would that make you feel?

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:03 AM
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10. LIKE AN IDIOT IF I EVEN TRY TO ANSWER SUCH A RIDICULOUS
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 12:05 AM by Gman
AND IRRELEVANT QUESTION. AND ANYONE THAT PLAYS BLACKJACK LIKE THAT IN VEGAS IS AN EVEN BIGGER IDIOT THAN THE PEOPLE OBSESSED WITH PLANTING QUESTIONS. YOU DON'T INCREASE YOUR BET IN BLACKJACK ONCE THE CARDS ARE DEALT.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:12 AM
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11. Why are you SHOUTING...dick.
Planted questions reveals MSM bias and suggests that Hillary is not comfortable addressing issues without scripting.

J
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:18 AM
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13. I'M SHOUTING BECUZ
AN EPIDEMIC OF BEING FUCKING STUPID HAS HIT DU. SOMETIMES SHOUTING IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THROUGH TO PEOPLE THAT ARE INFECTED WITH STUPID.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:49 AM
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27. and the caps lock key differentiates you from stupid....how?
:shrug:
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:17 AM
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12. YOU should remember that
stress is the enemy.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:22 AM
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14. NO!!!!! BEING FUCKING STUPID IS THE ENEMY!!!
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:23 AM
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15. LOL!
I've been dying to post something along those lines. Thank you for doing it for me.





Oh, and no, I don't think many people here actually know what a political campaign entails.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:38 AM
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17. I HAVE FUCKING HAD IT

WITH THE EPIDEMIC OF BEING FUCKING STUPID HERE!!!

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:57 AM
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21. Then WHY DON'T YOU TAKE YOUR FUCKING ATTITUDE AND LEAVE!
My, what an ass you are...
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:08 AM
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22. BECAUSE
AFTER MY NAME IT SAYS "I DONATED TO THE FOURTH QUARTER FUND DRIVE"!!1

I'VE NEVER SEEN A COLLECTION OF SUCH HIGHLY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE BEING SO FUCKING STUPID!!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:30 AM
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16. unleash the fury
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 12:30 AM by TahitiNut


:eyes: :boring:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:39 AM
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18. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The Inquisitive Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:51 AM
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25. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT !!!
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:44 AM
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19. So what?
The other side has been feeding the mokey-in-chief his answers through a fuckin headset for his whole reign...

I am pretty sure every politician has pre-prepared, loaded questions...welcome to the information age.

Non-issue...move the fuck on to shit that matters like our economy and healthcare and the decline of our society into mediocrity and complacency.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:43 AM
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26. Never mind
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 09:43 AM by Gman
I'm better this morning...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:50 AM
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28. too much drugs, not enough drugs?
as we used to say in college.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:58 AM
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29. OK I'm up and I promise not to scream.
The problem with giving the questions beforehand is that in the Presidency, the problems come at you without any foreknowledge. THe people have a right to see how the candidate can handle adversity without being scripted, and knowing the question beforehand takes that away and fools some of the people all of the time.

It has to stop.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 10:19 AM
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31. Each and every one of the candidates has a history going back many years
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 10:19 AM by Gman
and they have at some point talked about the subject of just about any question that can be asked. So all information about any candidate's position is out there for the taking. Any debate that is NOT sponsored by the League of Women Voters will invariably turn into a sham dog and pony show where everybody plays "gotcha" and/or piles onto the frontrunner.

I just get royally pissed off when I see trash posted here on DU about Hillary then hear about the same attack the next day on Hannity or Rush or even Glen Beck (we lost Air America here many months ago so I've no choice).
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 09:58 AM
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30. It's Not A Debate, It's A TV Show
Debates don't have candidates parading on stage like its the start of some game show...debates don't have the moderator dominating the answers and using up as much of the discussion time as the candidates. A real debate allows candidates to directly question one another...speak for more than 30 seconds about a serious issue. This was a TV show...staged and manipulated. The candidates know it as its worth thousands in free advertising to be on the stage and play as part of this game show.

Look at how CNN promoted the hell out of this thing...then did all that "pre-game" and "post-game"...this wasn't about issues, but getting eyeballs to watch and then to manipulate those ratings into advertising dollars. Thus, since its their show and their dime, they also feel entitled to frame the questions (which they did all night...Wolife has those talking points down to perfection) and plant them if needed. This was about making CNN look good...like Wolfie's the "kingmaker", Campbell Brown is a "journalist" and Roberts isn't so bad that CBS promoted Couric ahead of him...and then to let their spinner and bobble heads spend endless hours talking about it. They wanted the "confrontation"...the "gotcha"...it had nothing to do with allowing the candidates to speak about issues of substance, but rather the strawmen and talking points of "the village".
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