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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:16 PM
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Lieberman: ‘Paranoid, Hyper-Partisan’ ‘Left-Wing Blogs’ Wrote ‘Conspiracy Theories’ On Iran
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 05:17 PM by babylonsister
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/08/lieberman-iran-blogs-conspiracy/

Lieberman: ‘Paranoid, Hyper-Partisan’ ‘Left-Wing Blogs’ Wrote ‘Conspiracy Theories’ On Iran



Speaking today at the Johns Hopkins Center for Politics and Foreign Relations, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) accused “left-wing blogs” of making up “conspiracy theories” about the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which passed the Senate last month. It designated part of the Iranian army a terrorist organization. Lieberman called opponents of the amendment “politically paranoid” and “hyper-partisan.”

He also claimed that the “amendment contained nothing” that could be seen “as a green light” for war:

These were absurd arguments. The text of our amendment contained nothing–nothing–that could be construed as a green light for an attack on Iran. To claim that it did was an act of delusion or deception.

On the contrary, by calling for tougher sanctions on Iran, the intention of our amendment was to offer an alternative to war.

Lieberman’s argument is the only “deception” going on. It didn’t take “conspiracy theories” to realize that the amendment would move America closer to war with Iran. In the original version of the bill, which was only changed after pressure from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), language was included that explicitly endorseed the use of “military instruments” against Iran:

(4) to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments, in support of the policy described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies.

Even after the “military instruments” language was removed from the amendment, the final bill still shifted America into a more war-prone posture. As Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) noted at the time, just labeling Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp as “a foreign terrorist organization” could “mandate” the military option against Iran:

It could be read as tantamount to a declaration of war. What do we do with terrorist organizations? If they are involved against us, we attack them.

Given the language of the bill and Lieberman’s previous calls for “aggressive military action” against Iran, progressive blogs were hardly “delusional” in warning against the dangers of the amendment. But Lieberman would rather lash out at straw men caricatures of “left-wing blogs” and “hyper-partisans” than deal with legitimate criticism.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:20 PM
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1. these would be the same blogs whose "conspiracy theories" of past years
read like today's news headlines? :shrug: :eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:20 PM
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2. what a toad
and it's clear he's just grinding his little ax; he hates the left because of their support for Ned Lamont. If there's one thing that's clear it's that this admin and Liebertoad would love to go after Iran. Whether they will or not, is still unknown.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:20 PM
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3. I guess all foundations of international law then
have been produced by paranoid hyper-partisan left wing blogs as well. He is becoming such a rightwing nutcase.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:20 PM
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4. He would have been vice-president
:scared:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:46 PM
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12. That's the one thing I've got against Gore.
How could he not have known what a POS Lieberman is?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:21 PM
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5. What a useless sack of flesh this asshole is......
Connecticut.....why?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:26 PM
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6. one of his rationales for the resolution fell apart....
Those Iranians that the US military kidnapped from the compound of our ally Abdul Aziz al-Hakim and from the consulate in Irbil? Turns out that they weren't espionage agents after all, or Qods Force operatives, or anything. The US military is releasing them. The charges against them formed one of the bases for the Kyl-Lieberman resolution in the senate and also for the recent designation by Bush of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps as a 'terrorist' organization (even though it is a state organ!) So will those two measures now be repealed?


http://juancole.com/
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:27 PM
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7. Oh come now Liebershitz
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 05:28 PM by DemGa
And Shrub's IWR was a resolution for "peace." You crafty neo-cons have long been exposed.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:28 PM
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8. Sure. Right. Yeah.
Same people that lied about the US in Iraq.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:31 PM
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9. Who cares what that butterpat head thinks anymore?
Fuck him and the warhorse he rode in on.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:42 PM
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10. Yes Bill - Connecticut Democrats are so glad for that win/win situation in 2006.
Your decision to protect Lieberman is just another in a long list of wrongful decisions you have made that ends up hurting OUR PARTY and our nation.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:44 PM
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11. Joe Lieberman is calling someone else paranoid?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:55 PM
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13. Clueless Joey. I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't so up your own rear-end.
Sheesh. Okay. pfft. I feel sorry for you, anyway. It must be aweful,...to be you,...

You never HAD to be wimpy.
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