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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:40 AM
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Official thread # 1 House vote on over-riding Bush veto-Pelosi closing-NOW_
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 11:48 AM by rodeodance
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:41 AM
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1. Bonnner Repug is last Repug to speak-----
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:42 AM
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3. ha ha. he wants the bickering to stop
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:41 AM
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2. Link?
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:45 AM
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8. Go to www.c-span.org
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:42 AM
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4. A lot of talk has been missed already.
Especially from Rahm Emanuel, Carol Shea (sp?) Porter and Pete Stark. Strong words, all of them.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:44 AM
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7. yes, i tuned in late.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:43 AM
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5. Last speaker up-----PELOSI is closing
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:43 AM
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6. lots of thanks you from pelosi to her members
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:45 AM
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9. Yes, but not re-vamped, it's also another big wet kiss to the HMOs and Pharmaceuticals.
Catch 22?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:47 AM
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11. at the risk of getting dissed---it is what they could now given the number of Repugs in the Congres
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:47 AM
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12. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:45 AM
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10. I wonder if they got the 8 Dems to sign on?
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:50 AM
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17. Don't know but while the 1,2 & 5 minute statements were
being made, there were too many people (D & R) not present. That worries me.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:53 AM
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22. oh oh.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:48 AM
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13. I called my R congressman
I doubt he'll vote to override but at least I made my opinion known.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:49 AM
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15. so did I
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:49 AM
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16. r
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:51 AM
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18. 'STRIKE the words"----says a Repug of Dem Start on House floor right now.

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject 'STRIKE the words"----says a Repug of Dem Start on House floor right now.
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2077541#2077541
2077541, 'STRIKE the words"----says a Repug of Dem Start on House floor right now.
Posted by rodeodance on Thu Oct-18-07 11:30 AM
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:51 AM
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19. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:51 AM
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20. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:52 AM
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21. pelosi says: bill says "NO illegal Alians"--
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:48 AM
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14. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:53 AM
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23. needs some RECS please.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:54 AM
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24. I wish had a bit of ZIP to her voice----some THUNDER!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:55 AM
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25. Pelosi bringing up fact that PRES is isolated on this bill----Don't join him she says!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:55 AM
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26. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:56 AM
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27. Lots of applause for Pelosi closing speech. 15 minute vote starting NOW>
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:57 AM
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30. cspan taking calls
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:56 AM
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28. recommended
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 11:58 AM by blogslut
Here we go. Voting on the veto override...15 minute vote
CORRECTION: Roll vote. Not veto vote yet
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:57 AM
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32. Thanks
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:58 AM
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33. k
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:56 AM
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29. just shut up and sit down nancy. you suck.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:59 AM
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36. Find another thread to vent
This ain't it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:02 PM
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41. thanks for the shoe away memo
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:05 PM
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48. Just to be clear
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 12:06 PM by blogslut
They're taking a roll vote right now, corecct?
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:00 PM
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38. Please go hate Democrats somewhere else
I came to this thread to read about this particular vote. If I wanted to read another bash-a-dem thread I would've chosen one of the myriad that are currently filling GD and GD:P.

Thanks.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:57 AM
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31. So, we will know the truth in 15 minutes.
The truth about to what extent our elected officials actually give a shit regarding the children of this nation.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:02 PM
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42. NEED 289
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:04 PM
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45. Thanks for the number rodeo.
I was wondering what the final tally needed to be.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:59 AM
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34. saying 7 of 9 Dems who voted PRESENT-now will vote AYE (working on the other 2)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:59 AM
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35. NO repugs have changed vote per moderator.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:00 PM
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37. k
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:00 PM
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39. k
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:03 PM
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43. And I've heard this Julie person state that the repukes
will suffer from heartburn if they don't vote to override.

It's o.k. though. THEY have great doctors.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:04 PM
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46. HA -good one
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:05 PM
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47. god, i wish someone would correct this Bimbo callers!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:01 PM
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40. thanks for the RECS------hope all have called their House critter!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:03 PM
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44. saying NEED 289 to Over-ride
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:05 PM
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49. my computer screeen is blurry---anyone have the vote so far?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:07 PM
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52. Mine too
Let me go turn on the colortini and see what's going on
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:08 PM
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55. Yea 175, Nay 98, NV 157
I think...mine is blurry, too.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:09 PM
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57. Y 204 N 117 NV 112
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:10 PM
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59. thanks, better than mine
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:09 PM
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58. So far
168 yea, 140 nay.

Way too damn many NOT VOTING!!! Cowards!
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:06 PM
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50. Is anybody listening to this caller?????
I'm a smoker, but I'll be damned if I'd let my kid go without health care just because it's gonna cost more for my coffin nails!!!!

WTF is wrong with these people??
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:11 PM
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61. good lord--racist morons convinced by Rush that SCHIP covers illegals
shameful!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:07 PM
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51. caller saying will put CIGAR industry in a bind (3$ more for a cigar-)-so a caller says
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:07 PM
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53. And the next caller ended his statement by saying
that America should smoke a big fat joint!!!!

LOL - go dude!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:07 PM
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54. "Just smoke a big fat JOINT" says a caller ha ha
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:09 PM
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56. caller saing Bush lives on the gov---health care, housing yet he says no to others!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:11 PM
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60. If all 433 members present--then need 289 to pass.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:12 PM
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62. they said earlier NO repugs had changed their minds. sad.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:13 PM
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65. k
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:15 PM
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70. Looks like the veto will stand.
:eyes:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:13 PM
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63. Time's up. 236-137 with 60 not voting??
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:14 PM
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66. Still tallying.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:14 PM
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67. Keep watching. Those NV's are decreasing
on our side, I hope.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:13 PM
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64. Don't sweat if they don't override
First, its a poorly crafted bill, relying on an non-permanent and unreliable source of funding - tobacco taxes. If enacted, supporters will struggle to keep it funded in years to come and likely lose based on the funding source.

Second, its an incremental change for health care reform, and not a good one at that. It covers a group that is inexpensive to cover. Removing children from the private health insurance pool will lower private insurance companies profitability and consequently drive up the cost of insurance for everyone else.

Third, it will give everyone a good feeling making them think they've accomplished something significant, yet it barely touches on the growing cost burden of uninsured people.

It would have been better if they had linked it to providing coverage of some other goup - say those who are catastrophically ill - forcing the GOP and opponents to provide something more substantive.



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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:14 PM
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69. Kids who had healthcare and will lose it thank you for this good feeling!
Edited on Thu Oct-18-07 12:20 PM by Mass
Or rather kids who would have had healthcare with this bill but will not have it with a lesser version of the bill that will pass thank you for your good feelings.

Some people do not care as long as the perfect bill is not pass. To them, I say : go to hell.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:29 PM
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83. I have no control over it, talk to Congress
all I know is it was a poorly crafted bill with a bad legislative strategy.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:15 PM
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71. increments for now I say
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:17 PM
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75. I want the names of the two Dems who voted against it
273 Yeh.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:14 PM
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68. It's not going to be overridden in the House.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:16 PM
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72. my figures show 2 many no votes already to make 289 yeses
we are screwed

Where is our Tom Delay to twist arms into the night and make them change their votes?

Answer. We don't have one.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:17 PM
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73. That's it. Dead in the water.
Even if the rest of the NV's go yea, it's not enough.

F*cking weaners!! They know how to stuff the envelope, lick it, address it but they're too wussy to SEND it.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:17 PM
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74. Who was the lone fuckwad?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:17 PM
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76. 273-156 dammm.........and Repugs are Clapping
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:19 PM
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78. They'll be crying in 2009. nt
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:21 PM
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79. And showing their big pearly whites that their $100 a visit
dentists gave them while sharpening their fangs.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:18 PM
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And now the 11% will go down to 5%..
Even though it was only the REFUCKINGPUBLICANS that sustained the veto.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:18 PM
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77. Dammit
They quashed the override by NOT SHOWING UP TO VOTE.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:22 PM
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81. Wrong. 6 Reps. didn't vote and with 429 voting, it would have taken 283 ayes. That's 10 more than
we got. And for all we know, the 6 not voting could be GOP.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:22 PM
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80. Weak leadership!!!!!!!!!!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:26 PM
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82. Yeah, right, whatever. There are only 233 Democrats in the House, but
Nancy sure ought to have forced 50 GOP members to support her! With what, a gun?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:43 PM
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84. Can't blame the Dems for this
but it's all good. Let the people know how their reps voted.
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