Why aren't we piling on the "loser dems' over SCHIP?

[Stinky The Clown]

The House passed it ... barely. The Senate passed it. It was actually a reasonably bipartisan bill with bipartisan support.

Much, MUCH, ***MUCH*** more bipartisanship than any end the war in Iraq bill ever had.

So it lands on Fuckface's desk and he vetoes it.

And it appears the veto will hold; the House is about 24 votes shy of an over ride.

So we lost. Fuckface wanted only a few kids covered. We wanted more. We appropriated more. Fuckface said no. His party's nutter wing is backing him up.

Where's the self flagellative outrage?

[leftofthedial]

1. this is what the "democrats" would do with every issue

had they the guts

make the repukes go on record with their contempt for the American people

[Stinky The Clown]

4. As a broad statement ..... that's what they've done.

They lost every time they brought an issue up for a vote.

And that's my point.

[leftofthedial]

9. they've not brought every issue up for a vote though

[TechBear_Seattle]

2. Since when is the vote to override a veto a foregone thing?

I think 24 in the House is a narrow enough margin that with enough public outcry (and you can be damned sure there will be a HUGE outcry) failure to override this veto can not be declared until a vote is actually held.

[Coexist]

3. because the whip can't do his job.

[Stinky The Clown]

5. We will, of course, have to wait and see.

I'm still betting we don't have the votes.

[AndyA]

8. I agree, I think the outcry is going to be resounding. People are just now gearing up for it.

I heard some people at the next table at lunch talking about SCHIP, war crimes, the Bush lies, etc. And these guys looked like your typical Republicans. One said he couldn't believe he ever voted for Bush.

So, it's falling apart on them, bit by bit. Who knows when the final blow will be dealt, but it's coming. Bush's veto of health care for children defies all reason - especially from a self-professed compassionate man.

[LakeSamish706]

12. The problem is that the time it really falls apart, this A*** hole will be into Iran...

and nothing will ever get him out of the WH.... The country will be absolutely bankrupt, and the souls of all American Grandchildren will have been sold down the river to pay the debt if they could manage to take back the country.

[TahitiNut]

6. People want it ... as long as the cost is borne by today's Lepers? No thanks.

The ends do NOT justify the means. Regressive taxation is an inherent evil.

[lastliberalintexas]

7. Maybe because the Dems have done everything that they

can on this issue, and have vowed to try to override the veto. I think that most people are reasonable and see that we don't have 2/3rds needed for override so it's not an automatic win. The problem on so many other issues (impeachment, war funding, troop withdrawals, etc.) is that the Dems never even forced a vote and instead simply caved when the repubs threatened opposition. Therein lies the difference.

[mmonk]

10. Because this is a world of difference from

giving bush extra power to spy on people outside of the constitution or refusing to submit an inquiry of impeachment on the various high crimes of this administration or keep sending him war funding bills, war escalation, and oil law benchmarks.

[Perry Logan]

11. The self-flagellators don't know squat about how legislatures work. Hence their silence.

[endarkenment]

15. Of course, we are all idiots. Thanks for the enlightening discourse.

[Maribelle]

13. Mack is piling on Bono

My congressman is a very, very busy man.

[endarkenment]

14. Well we haven't actually lost yet, have we?

So unlike the War Party debacle, I'll hold off on criticism until I see how this actually plays out. If indeed, our nominal opposition party actually holds firm and either overrides or returns this bill to asshole's desk, I will heap praise on them. If as usual we cave, scorn will follow like flies on shit.

[Bitwit1234]

16. Bush dogs --- they have got to go.

[Zenlitened]

17. As long as the override vote is actually held, we win -- IF...

... our Dem leaders know what do next.

Plus, if the vote is actually scheduled, and everyone has to go on record for or against what has suddenly become a very high-profile proposal... well, I think some of the former "nays" might cross over.

Not out of a sense of right and wrong, of course, but out of political expediency.

In any event... we either get this legislation passed right now on behalf of the nation's children, or we march forward with a compelling case to make to the voters: A Democrat in the White House, more Democrats in Congress. Because our nation can't wait much longer.

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