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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:11 PM
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Madison has been found!
Just announced on Headline Prime, Nancy Grace's show. Waiting for police press conference. Her name is Madison.

No other network/cable stations have yet reported this.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:12 PM
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1. Geez! It would have to be Nancy Grace.
:P

If it's true, I'm glad they found her. Maybe Keith will say something.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:12 PM
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2. Are you talking about the British girl, Madeleine? n/t
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:14 PM
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4. Nope, this is the little girl in the sex tape that's been in the news
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 07:15 PM by mcscajun
recently.

She's been identified (so far) only as "Madison".

Related thread here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1934848
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:15 PM
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6. Aren't all little girls under the age of 5 or 6 named Madison?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:26 PM
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13. deleted.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 07:29 PM by liberalmuse
My apologies. I get a bit worked up over this kind of thing.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:28 PM
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17. They learned her name from the tape, the monster used her name in it. n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:38 PM
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No! My granddaughter is Madeleine, but we call her Maddy.
I feel insulted when people try to call her Madison. It is NOT her name.

We all just loved the beautiful name, Madeleine. She has had classmates all along with the same shortened name but fully 3/4 of them were either Madeleine or Madeline, NOT Madison.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:52 PM
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52. LOL! My granddaughter is! nt
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:15 PM
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7. This is the girl on the pedo video
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:14 PM
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3. Hope the prop man put in the asbestos table top tonight
nostrils 'o justice about to unleash
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:15 PM
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5. RIght there, smack dab on the isthmus all this time. Dang.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:22 PM
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8. It's reported on the front page of 'America's Most Wanted' - link
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 07:23 PM by Breeze54
'Madison' Identified; Safe And Sound

http://www.amw.com/

09/28/2007

Nye County detectives tell AMW that the little girl known as 'Madison', who is at the center of an ongoing
child sex tape investigation, has been identified. Cops have not released the little girl's full name but say that
she is safe and will have her at a press conference in Pahrump, Nevada at 7:30 pm. However, authorities
are still on the lookout for Chester Stiles, a person-of-interest in the 'Madison' mystery and a man wanted
for additional child sex charges in Las Vegas.

»The Full Story http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=49286

»Inside The Investigation

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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:26 PM
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12. "....will have her at a press conference..."
:wtf: That doesn't sound right at all. :(
I'm very glad she's been found.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:30 PM
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19. right up there with
'safe and sound'-

now the media will have their way with her-


what a world.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:31 PM
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21. I thought that too and they also say that
she's "safe and sound". Does that mean that she wasn't raped/molested or that they found her alive?

Maybe she's to young to know what's going on at the press conference. I'm not sure.

Maybe they just want to show people that they actually do have her and that she's safe?

:shrug:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:36 PM
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26. I was kind of thinking your last idea.
I think the authorities that have been involved are truly in shell shock over this one.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:39 PM
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31. Sadly, so many of these cases
don't end well. So that they found her alive is good.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:49 PM
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55. She was raped many times. The cop on the enws said they watched the tape and
the little girl is raped for a half an hour and doesn't even show emotin becuase it has been done to her so many times.
Thank goodness they found her.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:30 PM
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63. and she was 3 years old!
:(
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:38 PM
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30. Not right at all...
Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Now, if a parent wants to speak out... but then, my first thought was "where is this child's parents???"

I'm sick of the sickos in this sick and twisted world.

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:44 PM
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37. I hear ya!
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 07:48 PM by tnlefty
I don't understand the motivation for her appearing at a press conference unless they're thinking that in the minds of law enforcement, she needs to be seen so that the nationwide awareness/search for her will end.

I don't like it, but perhaps that is their reasoning. I'm much more interested in the perp's relationship with the family members and how no one could have not noticed something about her, whether behavior, doing her laundry, etc. :wtf:

Hope you're doing okay! :hi:

edit: emoticon
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:56 PM
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43. hi, tnlefty !
I'm doing just fine. Good to see you! :hi:

I've got the sneaking suspicion that it's going to turn out that the parents knew...there were probably serious injuries. :(
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:03 PM
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45. Before we had our 3rd child, we had gone through a lot of the
preliminaries to become foster parents in this state. I'd take that little girl in a a heartbeat and do everything that I could to try to restore some normalcy and mental health to her! Child psychologists, etc., are expensive, but I'd take her to every appt. and give her lots of hugs in between.

Good to see that you're doing just fine, and keep it up! :hug:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:38 PM
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49. Oh, how generous you are
I hope that she does find a loving home after the horrors that she suffered.

I am glad she was found.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:01 PM
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59. My oldest should graduate from high school this year, and
then be off to college, and perhaps we'll revisit our application. (Don't tell anyone, but child #3 wasn't actually planned) and that's why we canceled the process. Perhaps we should consider again opening our hearts and our home to kids who really need help!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:57 PM
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44. I sincerely doubt that authorities will have the child herself at
the press conference. For one, she is way too young to even consent to such a thing as to appear at the press conference, I would think.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:26 PM
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14. Have her at a press conference?
Or have a press conference about her tomorrow?

To have her at the conference makes me uneasy for her. It seems, I dunno, even more exploitative, except we're all participating in it.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:40 PM
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32. if anyone cares anything
about this child, they will not allow her to be used like this.

The public doesn't need anything as much as this girl needs to not be used further.

The knowledge that she is the child they have been concerned about is all that the public needs.

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:29 PM
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18. Chester The Molester? Sounds right out of central casting
That's been a stereotype for years
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:38 PM
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29. Was thinking the same thing
If it weren't so evil I'd laugh. :puke:
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Savannah_H Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:23 PM
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9. reply
Isn't Nancy Grace preggers?
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:31 PM
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22. Nancy Grace is pregnant (and married)
She is probably 5-6 months along and is expecting twins, a boy and a girl.

She seems to be off her show on Fridays as she is tonight.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:01 PM
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58. Well, I am so happy she found a husband and is going to have...
twins! Maybe that will tone down her anger and bitterness! I cannot watch her, ever!

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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:35 PM
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25. I don't know, but the weather guy, Sam Champion?, from Good
Morning America was covering this when I saw this thread and went to tune in!
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:24 PM
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10. Good! Poor, sweet baby.
A child should never have to be subjected to that shit. Where was the mother? I hope they catch the *&$^#%@ perp and all who are responsible. I hope Madison is well-taken care of from now on.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:25 PM
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11. Thank goodness she's been found
Poor girl.

:(
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:26 PM
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15. Great news
hope she can get love and help she needs to put her life together after that monster tore it apart.

Now....FIND HIM!!! :grr:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:27 PM
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16. Good
I know people will pour in the money so she will get all the care she needs, still a good thing about living in this country.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:31 PM
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20. Very good news
I hope that little girl can regain her innocence after whatever she has suffered through.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:33 PM
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23. That is good news. Now where the heck are this little girl's...
parents?
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:35 PM
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24. some here have speculated that Stiles is related to her.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 07:50 PM by Iris
But also keep in mind, she may have been taken from her parents a long time ago.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:37 PM
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27. I just can't imagine any parent ever giving up on a missing...
child. I hate to think how much worse this story could become when that piece of it is figured out. :(
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:40 PM
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34. what? Who says they gave up?
I'm just trying not to jump to conclusions here.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:44 PM
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38. I haven't been following the story that closely....
I may have missed something.

Does anyone know who her parents are? If she had gone missing and it had been reported, I would guess that investigators would be checking some data base to see if the girl on the tape matched a description. Perhaps that's how they figured out who she is?

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:46 PM
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39. I'm not sure.
For some reason, I have this horrible idea that she was "off the grid" somehow - that her abuser(s?) are related to her and that no one besides them even know she exists.

But that's all speculation on my part.
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tears4terra Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:52 PM
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41. On Cnn right now,
the detective just confirmed that Stiles is not her parent.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:48 PM
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40. More will come out at the 7:30 press conference but he's not her father.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 07:53 PM by Fridays Child
Could be an uncle or other relative but I learned that Stiles was evidently running his own pool maintenance business a few years ago, so I wonder if he preyed on the children of customers.

Also, a Chester A. Stiles was a respondent in a series of family court cases--both for child custody and domestic violence--between 1998 and 2000.
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:38 PM
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28. Why did her family wait two days to contact police?
According to police reports all day today, Madison had not yet been found until this hour.

Those photos were on media sources the past 48 hours. Why did whoever is her guardian not contact police before this evening?

Now there is a report that the guy who supposedly found the tape just flunked his lie detector test, taken in past couple of hours.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:41 PM
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36. I didn't know that her parents were identified...
Do you have a link for that?

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:55 PM
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42. I don't think anyone has that yet.
Maybe they're in jail and that's why the police are holding the press conference?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:27 PM
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47. What I heard was that she was with her family when she was found..
:shrug:
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:40 PM
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33. WOO HOO! This is good news! n/t
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:40 PM
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35. Wonderful news!! n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:26 PM
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46. I'm glad she's been found, but this whole thing stinks
When a child that young "disappears" for long enough to have that stuff done to her and videotaped, the family KNOWS that guy, or they would have reported her missing..

They did NOT, so I am betting that the parents are somehow involved..

She was old enough to speak, and he did not kill her, so he must have been known to the family.. If he was a stranger to her, he would have "used her up" and killed her..

This child needs to be removed from that family at least for enough time for her to get some serious therapy and for the police to investigate them completely..



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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:29 PM
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48. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something along those lines...
...in the upcoming press conference.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #46
50. don't jump
too fast.

Yes, a 4-5yr old can talk. but sometimes there are things they can't say-
and people who aren't able to hear what is said.

If it was her parents that came forward, i'd be inclined to think they weren't knowingly involved.
She wouldn't need to disappear- kids are abused by people known to the family all the time.
that doesn't mean the family knows what is going on.




there are so many Madison's in this world.

many more Madison's than people are willing to believe.

but there are terrorists to kill, and corporations to promote, who cares about the children.
or the old people
or anything other than what the media serves up as the scoop de'jour-

Who cares about the Madison's who don't leave a video-tape trail?
Or who don't make it on "Fox" or "Extra"?

who will put their 'outrage' into helping fix this mess?
will those so involved right now, still care a month from now?

i hope so.



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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:08 PM
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53. Maybe the "family "she is with are grandparents.
I'm also guessing the parents are guilty at least of neglect. But there may be other family members who are perfectly good people.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:25 PM
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61. She was 3 years old when stuff was done to her/videotaped
She's 7 now. That's what Sheriff Tony Nemeo said on CNN.

:(
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:51 PM
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65. There is some fuzzy math going on here.
It was reported that the tape of this girl being assaulted was made over another tape, made in 2005.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298565,00.html
How then can this girl have been 3 when the tape was made, if she is 7 now?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:29 PM
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68. not necessarily. Florida's child services did an audit and found
dozens of kids unaccounted for. they were placed in services and no one could find them. easy to get a kid if you are tenacious, persistent and evil.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:50 PM
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51. Death penalty for the molester.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:27 PM
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62. Not gonna happen unless there was a murder.
And thankfully there wasn't one! Whew.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:18 PM
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66. Not if you're in Louisiana.
I believe they have sentenced a man to die for molestation.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:26 PM
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54. Great news! Now leave her be MSM.
Stay the hell away from her and let her heal and grow and maybe find joy in life. We don't need to know anymore, beyond that she has been found and is OK. LEAVE HER ALONE. No stupid family interviews, no neighborhood input. Go after the perp now.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:52 PM
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56. I dont believe any child social worker woulod even let the media near that child.
She is in grave danger even though found.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. Well, I am sorry, but I presume people are interested
as to how this suspect had access to the child, and is the child truly safe now. It's easy to say public doesn't need to know anymore, but obviously once public becomes interested, it's not like someone can just shut the interest off.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:12 PM
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60. are you sure
that is what you meant to say?

maybe i'm not hearing you correctly, but the public's desire for information shouldn't take precedent over what is in the best interests of this child.

the public might have to go wanting, and take the information given- even if it doesn't satisfy their desires.


sorry- this is a touchy subject.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:19 PM
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67. I think that the girl's privacy is probably a more pressing consideration
than the general public's interest.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:48 PM
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64. suspect is survivalist, claims to be navy seal
watched live stream (KLAS) after networks broke away. DA made comment that they have info the suspect is a survivalist and can go without water ect. Is martial arts fan and always carries a knife.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:31 AM
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69. suspect worked for Siegfried and Roy
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