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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:27 PM
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Glenn Blech!
Well, hello, Beck. Let me ask you a question or two.

Re your comment: “From the day that American troops were sent in to fight in Iraq, didn’t we promise each other? Didn’t we promise each other one thing that we wouldn’t treat these veterans like the way we treated the ones from Vietnam? That we’d support their efforts and never call them murderers and baby killers? Wasn’t that what we promised each other?”

Funny thing is I’ve never heard anyone refer to our troops in Iraq as baby killers – except you. I also find it laughable that any right-wing hack would even want to bring up the topic of how we treat our veterans, in light of the treatment they’ve received from this president and his party.

If you really support the troops beyond tossing that soundbyte around as though it means something, you might alert your audience to the fact that when our vets come home wounded and/or disabled, their government gets busy finding ways to deny treatment and the pensions that are their due.

Oh, and there are, of course, more wounded vets than there should be, thanks to this administration not supplying proper body armor and other life-saving equipment. Apparently, the president had to choose between equipping our soldiers and ensuring Halliburton’s obscene profits – and guess who wound up on the losing end of that exercise?

“To some, our troops are now officially baby killers. Here’s how I got there.

If activists like MoveOn.org will dare to come after a respected man like General Petraeus, a man with impeccable reputation, who was approved without objection by the entire Congress, I wondered who would cast the next stone. How fast would this thing start rolling down the hill?


Hmm, so that’s how you got there …

If Petraeus is a man with an impeccable reputation, one wonders why he is so willing to play fast and loose with the facts. But no one should question his integrity, because that’s tantamount to calling everyone in uniform a baby-killer, right? Right!

“During his Middle Eastern tour last week, Democrat Dennis Kucinich met with the president of Syria. Here is what he had to say: ‘We are all being weakened by continuing a war that’s based on a lie. This war was based on lies. Iraq didn’t have the weapons of mass destruction, wasn’t connected to 9/11, had nothing to do with al Qaeda’s role in 9/11.”

Could you kindly point out for me exactly what was untrue in that statement? Or is your point simply that he shouldn’t be speaking to Syria? Maybe you’re right, Beck. Maybe no American should get friendly with nations that might be ‘harbouring terrorists’ – like Saudi Arabia, for example, homeland of the majority of the 9-11 hijackers. Maybe you should point that out to your president.

“Brian De Palma, he’s a director out of Hollywood. He’s got a new film coming out this fall about the real-life rape and killing of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl by U.S. soldiers.
I want you to understand: this did happen.

But it is unfair and completely irresponsible to color all American troops as rapists. Maybe being called a baby killer wasn`t so bad after all.”


Huh? De Palma makes a film based on an actual event, and that equates to coloring all American troops as rapists? Sorry, Beck – I’d need a roadmap of the alternate universe you apparently live in to figure out how you got there. And thanks for the head’s-up on De Palma being a director out of Hollywood, as unnecessary as it was. You see, Beck, De Palma is famous around the world for his work. I guess you probably just can’t grasp that kind of celebrity.

“If you have a family member fighting overseas like I do, prepare yourself. The real atrocities of war are about to begin.”

Hate to have to correct you, Beck, but the real atrocities of war started the day Bush sent our soldiers into harm’s way based on lies, the day he chose to ignore the counsel of his military advisors who warned of exactly the pitfalls he has so consistently stepped in, the day he cut the pay and pensions of the troops, the day he decided that billions would be spent on contracts with war profiteers while soldiers went into combat without sufficient protective gear and vehicles – the list goes on and on.

As for disrespecting the troops, I can’t decide which act would be more disrespectful: a president looking under his desk for those WMDs he never found and laughing about it, or a man standing on an aircraft carrier making a speech in front of a Mission Accomplished banner, knowing he was about to send thousands of troops to their deaths in a war of his own contrivance.

If you want to call someone a baby-killer, Beck, I think that’s your guy.




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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:31 PM
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1. Spot on,
Edited on Fri Sep-14-07 12:33 PM by vpilot
more excellent writing and well said, thank you Nance! I sure hope you Emailed or Faxed or snail mailed this to him, you know, just to make sure he gets a copy.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:35 PM
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2. K&R



Beck is a dipshit. He'll say or do anything that he thinks might help his ratings. He doesn't care about any ideologies or political philosophies, just the ratings. He just figures the RW is easier to pander to because it's common knowledge they aren't too bright.




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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:36 PM
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3. K & R
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:37 PM
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4. Wonderful Nance, and yes, this has to be sent to all the RW gasbags....
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:37 PM
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5. I wasn't around at the time, but I've read that nobody used the term "Baby killer" re: VN vets.
It's a myth. They (Beck types) did the strawman thing back then just like they're doing today.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:38 PM
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6. knr. nt.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:45 PM
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7. I must outlive Blech
So I can take a shit on his headstone.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:46 PM
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8. Crank up the phony outrage machine! One, Two, Three!!!
:eyes:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:49 PM
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9. Wonder which one of his "family members" is "fighting overseas"?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:51 PM
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10. His ex-wife had a heated exchange in a duty-free in Zurich, once. nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:02 PM
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11. Yeah my bullshit detector is going off big time.
He always reminds me of a grown up version of Ralphie from the Christmas Story. Perhaps he'll shoot his eye out.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:38 PM
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30. Naw, man, Ralphie was way cooler than that doofus.
Ralphie was alright. Beck was probably like the wannabe bully who ran away crying the minute he got his ass kicked.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:13 PM
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12. Related post, moderators may want to merge, along w this information re Beck
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:47 PM
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13. Nance - You totally nailed it with this one!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:29 PM
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14. K&R
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:39 PM
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15. Not To Mention The Mess His Ilk Made Of The VA
Now I wonder how many dollars he's given to Vietnam Veterans groups or spent time trying to cheer people (including the staff) at a VA Hospital? I doubt he's ever set foot in one. Now who really "deserted" our Vietnam Veterans...the ones who ended up homeless or with serious drug problems or ended up killing themselves over their guilt and grief? Beck probably walked past them sleeping in the doorway and thought they were worthless bums.

The Beck Boy represents the worst hypocrites who "support the troops" until they're no longer props. They waive the flags and put on the yellow ribbons when we're "kicking ass" and are quick to ignore or blame the troops when its a failure. They're also the one who cut funding to the VA and will be the first to want their tax break rather than assisting a family displaced by this illegal war. And he has the stones (very small ones I'm sure) to attack those of us who have and will be here to really support our veterans? Words can't even express my contempt.

Cheers...
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:53 PM
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17. I think that by NOT setting foot in a VA hospital ...
... he's probably cheered the troops up immensely.

:hi:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:59 PM
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19. Nance...You Always Sum It Up NIcely
:toast:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:46 PM
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16. Let me hazard a guess that Beck was never on his high school's debate team.
I love his statement "Here's how I got there." How nice of him to provide us with a road map to crazy land.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 02:55 PM
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18. "How nice of him to provide us ...
... with a road map to crazy land."

:rofl: GOOD ONE!
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:01 PM
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20. Damn, I wish I'd written that!
Great stuff, Nance (as always).
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:05 PM
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22.  Glenn Beck, ratings failure
Hughes for America: Glenn Beck, ratings failure
Poor Glenn Beck. While Glenn Beck is on the road having a mid-life crisis, the radio-turned-Headline News host's ratings are sinking. ...
hughesforamerica.typepad.com/hughes_for_america/2006/06/glenn_beck_rati.html

This AssClown uses his stupid so called humor as a weapon. Does CNN keep paying him to piss off people?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:51 PM
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24. Well if they ARE paying him to piss people off ...
... they're sure getting their money's worth.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 03:05 PM
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21. I'll second that. Well said and so true.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:13 PM
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23. Ever notice that li'l glen vibrates when he bloviates?
it's really quite funny.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:54 PM
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25. Like this?

:scared: "Howdy, folks, I'm an idiot - and here's how I got there."
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:29 PM
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28. THAT'S IT EXACTLY
scary fellow
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:59 PM
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26. He said something so disgusting about litlle girls "wanting it". My mom and I were horrified. He
is vile.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 05:47 PM
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27. He is vile.
I keep thinking he's a prime candidate for eventually being 'outted' in connection with some really sordid sex scandal.

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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:34 PM
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29. Hitting The Nail on The Head
You always do but the last few pieces you have written have given me goose bumps. I still can't figure out why anyone listens to Belch anyway.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 06:48 PM
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31. To the point and perfectly said NanceGreggs!!
These swill monkeys have nothing but circuitous smear to sell, beause that's all bunnypants has left them with. Hell, it's all they ever had to begin with.

Great writing as always :)

:applause:
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