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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:25 AM
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Thousands of Girls Vie to Be Stewardesses
Thousands of Girls Vie to Be Stewardesses


Thousands of girls descend on Zhengzhou, capital city of central China's Henan Province, to attend a competitive air stewardess selection event, held on August 27 and 28. (Photo: xinhua)

A competitive selection held in Zhengzhou City, capital of central China's Henan Province, has attracted some 2,000 girls to take part.

One of China's biggest airline companies, China Southern Airlines, is hoping to recruit 61 flight attendants through the mass selection, which is scheduled to be held in five Chinese cities. The website of Xinhua News Agency reported.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:26 AM
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1. I guess it's good to have a dream
Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:34 AM
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2. Soon to be immigrants to USA to take more jobs that Americans won't take. Salaries of flight
attendants will decrease as a result of globalization of their jobs. Can you understand instructions in Chinese? Don't bother asking for more peanuts. Develop a taste for Hong Kong kung fu in-flight movies.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:17 AM
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16. what the fuck?

There isn't a story in the world that can't be turned on its head to be really about the YOU ESS OF EH.

But you were joking, right? I can't believe you really see the world and the people in it the way your post suggests ...



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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:43 AM
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20. So you don't believe that there is a possibility that USA airlines would help Chinese flight
Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 11:02 AM by shain from kane
attendants immigrate to the USA to replace the current flight attendants with cheap labor? The USA railroads exploited Chinese immigrants as coolies to build the tracks. And high tech companies are always trying to have legislation passed to increase the number of immigrants from India, most often at lower salaries.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:58 AM
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22. not so much

And it's not so much anything I think, and more that what you're on about has absolutely nothing to do with the story this thread is about. Ethnocentrism just isn't really attractive.

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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:33 PM
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25. Ethnocentrism? Here's something to chew on when you're not chewing on me.

From Wikipedia ----

China's very name is composed of ideographs meaning "center" and "country" respectively, and traditional Chinese world maps show China in the center. It's also important to note that it wasn't just China that bought into this idea. At the height of the Chinese empire, the Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, and Thai also believed China to be the centre of the universe and referred to China as the middle kingdom. To this day, Japan, Korea, and Vietnam still refer to China as the middle country.

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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:40 PM
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26. I give up

Is there a Chinese person here somewhere who's pretending that everything that happens everywhere in the world is all about him/her?

I'm just left without a clue. A Chinese airline is hiring flight attendants. Airlines need flight attendants. The Chinese airline is hiring Chinese flight attendants. Most airlines hire flight attendants in the country in which they are based.

Should the Chinese hire US citizens to crew its planes, so that its employees would not ever try steal jobs from US citizens, because they'd be US citizens themselves already?

The mind boggles, the head hurts.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 01:19 PM
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28. as opposed to traditional maps from north america
which focus on the, oh dear, I believe that is the United States, smack dab in the middle!

Yes, traditional Chinese mythology and nomenclature has China as the center of the world, beloved by the gods, the same way that every other traditional culture in the world has themselves as the chosen people, beloved by the gods. I don't believe any culture has survived that inherently saw itself as inferior, why would you establish a traditional mythology and founding myth saying you weren't important? what's the point? And the reason that all surrounding societies though China was the center of the world was that, to them, it was. China was bigger, richer, more developed technologically and economically, than anyone else in the region, for TWO THOUSAND YEARS. China was a system, a culture, that was dominant in the region for longer than Christianity or Islam has existed. The other cultures in the region either paid tribute or died. The civil service system in China was established by Confucious, in the fifth century, BCE. This was before Plato, before Rome existed. Europeans were living in mud huts worshipping trees, outside of Greece that is. Athens was a small town, secondary in importance to Mycenae, Laconia and Knossos. The Celts were dominant in what is now the UK, the Franks ran what became Gaul (if anyone did, that is) While the rest of the globe was warring city-states, at best, China was a nation-state. I wonder why the mythology is so powerful?

When people conquered China, which did happen, they didn't change China, China changed them. Even the savage Mongols, who's leader, Chinggiss Khan was born in a tent to a group of nomads, became Chinese. Chinggiss's grandson, Kubla Khan became emperor of China, spoke Chinese and governed from Peking, not the Steppes. at the time, the Emperor ruled a population of 85,000,000 (roughly equivalent to the entire population of Europe, from Ireland to Turkey)
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:41 PM
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35. So? Mediterranean means the exact same thing
And for your further mastication pleasure:

http://www.cabincrewjobs.com/flight-attendant-salaries.html
Flight Attendant Salaries

Median annual flight attendant salaries were $38,820 in 2000. The middle 50 percent earned between $28,200 and $56,610. The lowest 10 percent earned salaries of less than $18,090, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $83,630. According to data from the Association of Flight Attendants, beginning median flight attendant salaries were about $14,847 a year in 2000.


I don't see why an airline would spend money to aid immigration when they already pay USians poorly.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:44 PM
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27. Seriously
What do you think the US carriers pay starting FA's now? LOL...try starting at about 13,000.00 and I'm not joking.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:20 AM
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17. Chinese applicants for a Chinese airline are taking away American jobs...?
Chinese applicants for a Chinese airline are taking away American jobs and increasing immigration to the U.S...?

How dare they have their own airline staffed by nationals desperate for jobs! :sarcasm:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:30 AM
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18. In Flight Movies
Develop a taste for Hong Kong kung fu in-flight movies.

I'd much prefer that to the crap they show on most long domestic flights.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:41 AM
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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:46 AM
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4. Er.....
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:08 AM
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9. Hot Chinese stew. Yummy. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:52 AM
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5. It's a natural progression.. Think back to the 50's & 60's in the US
Young women who aspired to more than a life at a switchboard or behind a typewriter, flocked to airlines, begging to be stewardesses..

It was an opportunity of a lifetime for them.

Nothing different for these young chinese women

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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:56 AM
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6. It was that way when I was in high school. Being a stewardess
was considered a glamorous job because you had the chance to travel and meet interesting people.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:39 AM
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14. see my post below
it's a very desirable job in China for a young woman - it normally requires a 4 year college degree and the ability to speak 2 languages. It's also difficult to travel outside of China on a Chinese passport (unless you want to go to Vietnam, Cuba or North Korea) If you read the article, it also stated that they lowered the height requirement from 1.75m to 1.65m (or from 5'9" to 5'5")


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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:59 AM
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7. Can anyone pronounce
F-L-I-G-H-T A-T-T-E-N-D-A-N-T?

I KNEW you COULD!!! :evilgrin:
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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:07 AM
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8. There may be a link in the article if you want to e-mail them with the 'correct' term
to use in China. You might also want to let Singapore Airlines know that cabin crew titles such as 'Leading Stewardess' also need to be changed. And also a bunch of other airlines in Asia and Europe probably wouldn't mind being told by the U.S. what to call their employees. :)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:09 AM
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10. Actually the correct term is right there in article you posted.
Why they chose the archaic term for the headline is a mystery.
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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:16 AM
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11. As I said, the title 'stewardess' is still used by many airlines in Asia and Europe
It's usage being considered 'archaic' seems mostly confined to the U.S.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:29 AM
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12. Finnair to recruit 500 cabin attendants under national collective agreement
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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:39 AM
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15. I never said stewardess was used exclusively outside the U.S.
Just that its usage remains common and is not at all considered 'archaic';

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=stewardess&btnG=Search+News
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:42 AM
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19. It's a pretty good bet that the correct term is actually in Chinese.
Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 11:02 AM by Tesha
We're being offered several generic translations here.

Tesha
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 10:46 AM
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21. F Light At Tend Ant?
What's it got to do with ants? :dunce:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:07 PM
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29. You're a VERY NAUGHTY
BAD, BAD BOY!!! :spank: :rofl::rofl::rofl: :spank:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:27 PM
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32. Larry? Is that ewe?
:rofl:

Well, at least I'm not a NASTY, bad boy. This time. :silly:

:hug: :hi:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:37 PM
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34. As a former airline captain, I sure can!
But I have a retired RAF/BA friend who still refers to flight attendants as "air hostesses."
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 06:43 PM
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36. He gets a pass due to his age.
Seriously, DemoTex, it amazes me to witness the LACK of assimilation of basic tenets we progressives hold up as ways to level the playing board.
I do think it is the reason WE have such difficulty presenting a united front. Our stances are nuanced and easily misunderstood.

I was JOKING :silly: above and someone went off, not realizing I do not dwell within the borders of the North American continent, without even considering that possibility.

94-yr-old Ms B. can refer to me as the "little collud girl" but her 20-yr-old grandson dare not. I'm just chuckling that the young'uns, in spite of reading "stewardess" don't automatically switch the reference.
I know I'm "expecting" too much. ;-)

But tell me Bro, what does one do after spending 6K(€) on a 'bo and discovering that we're not compatible? :SIGH: I do so need your good vibes...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 07:03 PM
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37. Good vibes!
Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 07:12 PM by DemoTex


On edit:

BTW: One of my all-time favorite flight attendants (on my crew) was Mohammad Ali's niece. On a long layover in Chicago, at the Ambassador West on State, she introduced me to The Champ. I have written about that long conversation in the Ambassodor lobby with Ali on DU in the past. Perhaps I'll tell that long story here again some day.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:34 AM
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13. Actually, flight attendent is a desirable job in China
You normally have to have a 4 year college degree, be fluent in at least 2 languages, be a certain height (I think at least 5'6" or 5'7" - so you can easily reach the overhead bins) and also be attractive.



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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 11:21 AM
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23. Its a decent job
much better than working retail!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 11:24 AM
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24. Seems like a good job if you can get it.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:09 PM
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30. Hey, you, the third from the right! Yes, you there, you've got the job.
I'm sorry, what were the qualifications again?

But the chick in the Jackie O pink outfit has got to go.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:28 PM
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33. Yep. It looks like the lights are on and someone's home.
I like people with 'tude.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 05:22 PM
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31. i'd hire them all!
now all i need is an airline!
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