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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:34 AM
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Rove Resigns!!!!!
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 03:37 AM by Bunny
I just heard on ABC News that he is resigning and returning to Texas, for "the sake of his family". I think they said his last day is the end of this month.

Edit, per the Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118698747711695773.html...


<snip>
Karl Rove, President Bush's longtime political adviser, is resigning as White House deputy chief of staff effective Aug. 31, and returning to Texas, he said in an interview with Paul Gigot, editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. (See related editorial.)

Read the editorial by The Wall Street Journal's editorial page editor, Paul Gigot, on his interview with Karl Rove.Mr. Rove, who has held a senior post in the White House since President Bush took office in January 2001, told Mr. Gigot he first floated the idea of leaving a year ago. But he delayed his departure as, first, Democrats took Congress, and then as the White House tackled debates on immigration and Iraq, he said. He said he decided to leave after White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten told senior aides that if they stayed past Labor Day they would be obliged to remain through the end of the president's term in January 2009.

"I just think it's time," Mr. Rove said in the interview. "There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family." Mr. Rove and his wife have a home in Ingram, Texas, and a son who attends college in nearby San Antonio.


In the interview, Mr. Rove said he expects Democrats to give the 2008 presidential nomination to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom he described as "a tough, tenacious, fatally flawed candidate." He also said Republicans have "a very good chance" to hold onto the White House in next year's elections.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:36 AM
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1. don't tease the Batman
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 03:38 AM by blogslut
?

oops, there it is:

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%...

Bush adviser Rove says he'll leave at end of August
By MarketWatch
Last Update: 4:20 AM ET Aug 13, 2007


LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Karl Rove, President Bush's longtime political adviser, told The Wall Street Journal in an interview published on Monday that he's going to resign on Aug. 31 and return to Texas.

"I just think it's time," Rove said in the interview with the newspaper. "There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family." Read interview at WSJ.com

Rove said he expects Democrats to give the 2008 presidential nomination to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom he described as "a tough, tenacious, fatally flawed candidate."

He also said Republicans have "a very good chance" to hold onto the White House in next year's elections.


You weren't teasing. :)
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:37 AM
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2. It's TRUE!
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%...


Bush adviser Rove says he'll leave at end of August
By MarketWatch
Last Update: 4:20 AM ET Aug 13, 2007

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Karl Rove, President Bush's longtime political adviser, told The Wall Street Journal in an interview published on Monday that he's going to resign on Aug. 31 and return to Texas.

"I just think it's time," Rove said in the interview with the newspaper. "There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family." Read interview at WSJ.com
Rove said he expects Democrats to give the 2008 presidential nomination to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, whom he described as "a tough, tenacious, fatally flawed candidate."

He also said Republicans have "a very good chance" to hold onto the White House in next year's elections.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:39 AM
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4. Best Thread EVAR?
Could be :)
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:30 AM
Response to Reply #4
39. I'm holding out for the "Bush Resigns!!!" thread
But for now, this thread is pretty good. :)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:36 AM
Response to Reply #39
44. Then let me rephrase
Best Thread EVAR! - so far. :)
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:45 AM
Response to Reply #44
48. I can agree with that, totally!
But my paranoid part wonders if he's got something planned (bad) for the election or before, or if he's getting out while the gettin's good...

The guy is Pure Satan.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:11 AM
Response to Reply #48
88. I know. It's going to be like, "it's quiet. Too quiet."
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #48
114. Can't disagree with your characterization of Rove!
But I'm thinking that they've only shifted a lightening rod to someplace else. He might not be a physical presence in the White House after this month, but there's no way he's going to keep his pudgy fingers out of things. He'll just be exercizing his evil machinations from someplace that doesn't have the press crawling all over it. That said, I do wonder if removing himself from the
White House also removes him from the ability to ignore Congress.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #48
128. me too.
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #44
95. Not really
best thread ever would be

"Rove begins life sentence in Guantanamo Bay" (along with the rest of the gang)

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #39
153. er...unless Cheney's already resigned by then
that would be "Most TERRIFYING Thread Evah!!!!" :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:54 AM
Response to Reply #4
80. Even better than Bush resigns
This man is the epitome of evil. Poor Bush is just stupid. Rove pulls the puppet strings. He's probably off to retire with his billions in Dubai.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #80
199. Don't let the chimp fool ya. Yes, hei s stupid. But he's evil, too. nt
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #4
99. He will still run Bushes whitehouse
Its a ploy to avoid accountability.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #99
107. Either that of cheney won the wrestling match
Me, I am holding my breath, literally. Have to remind myself to breathe now and then.

Waiting for other shoe to drop...

And Gonzo trip to Iraq? Havocdad said it must have been a HUGE money pick up if they couldn't send a lower level flunky for it this time. Rove's severance bribe pay? Must be some kick-ass golden parachute. Wonder what he held out for. Halliburton must have winched.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #107
168. Just my 2 cents...
I have a hunch that this has something to do with Cunningham, Wilkes, Foggo, Ney and Co...

Yep. Something (imo) BIG is on the horizon.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #4
152. Rove being FROG-MARCHED would make it a candidate for best thread
Turd Blossom frog is getting out of the pot before the water boils.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:39 AM
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3. that's interesting
What does it mean?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:41 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. It means that after August
Little Georgy is on his own.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:16 AM
Response to Reply #5
70. Now who's gonna show him....
...which shoes go on which feet???



:rofl:
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #70
78. Please tell me that photo doesn't show "presidential" socks...!
:puke:
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:55 AM
Response to Reply #78
81. He is such an ass...
...I guess even he doesn't believe he's president unless he reads it on his clothes.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #81
155. Its' for the benefit....
...of those who regularly kiss his feet. Of course he's losing one of those now....

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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #78
154. I'm afraid so....
...and we paid for them.

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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #70
139. ...or which side of his ankles the straps belong...n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #5
93. he's still got Al Gonzales
the last of his Texas cronies
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #93
104. It ain't the same and I think we both know that
Besides, Al has a day job. Bush handler is fulltime work. ;)
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #5
126. How does that compute........
If he were going to jail, I would be happy, but this? Its nothing.
Monkeyboy can still take his orders from Rovie. And dont even bother saying that it would be against the law. They disregard it completely.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #126
132. I'm calling it neocon tough love
I began to wonder about Rove retiring a couple of months ago. It suddenly hit me. What if Karl left before the eight years is up? What would Dubya do? Could he really pull off anything without Rove working the phones, hanging the lights and marking the cue cards?

I decided then that if Karl left fairly soon, that was a bad sign. Would Bush see it as a betrayal? Would he wonder who is next? Gonzales may protect this president legally and Cheney is always the snapping canine, but Karl was in charge of the flim flam and media manipulation. If Karl leaves, it will just be Bush, the crooked sheriff and the junk yard dog. Let's see them maintain that cowboy image now. Yeehaw.

I think they're all going to wash their hands of him but maybe I'm just wishing.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:04 AM
Response to Reply #3
82. exactly what I thought.
I think they got something on him. "He's going to spend more time with his family." Hmmmm. Where have we heard that one before???
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #82
167. Humm how about at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner
And, of course, we can't forget the man of the hour, new press secretary, Tony Snow. Secret Service name, "Snow Job." Toughest job. What a hero. Took the second toughest job in government, next to, of course, the ambassador to Iraq.
Got some big shoes to fill, Tony. Big shoes to fill. Scott McClellan could say nothing like nobody else. McClellan, of course, eager to retire. Really felt like he needed to spend more time with Andrew Card's children.Mr. President, I wish you hadn't made the decision so quickly, sir.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #82
192. What family?
His pet Cockroaches?

Seriously, did someone actually marry him and reproduce with him? That's disgusting! :puke:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #192
193. Oh yes he did!
I try not to think about how it came to pass.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:41 AM
Response to Original message
6. Time to head to Argentina I guess.
Next we'll see "Rove Flees Country!"
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:42 AM
Response to Original message
7. Will he have to honor
his subpoena then?
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #7
79. Shit,
Didn't think of that one!!! Wouldn't it be beautiful if he suddenly grew a conscience and told all?
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #79
142. Not possible for him to grow a conscience
His 'conscience seed' shriveled up like a nasty little raisin years ago and is no longer viable. :evilgrin:
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #142
177. I don't think he ever had one.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #7
108. Former bushco team member Meyers ignored subpoena
Gotta wonder what kind of pay-offs take place to make people confident they can show inherent contempt of Congress and get away with it.

And we were wondering where all that missing money went... Bet it buys a whole lotta golden parachutes to ensure a whole lotta quiet.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:44 AM
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8. Going to work for Mittens?
I don't trust this one bit. He's got something up his sleeve.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:51 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. He's a whore to the highest bidder.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:04 AM
Response to Reply #8
25. I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Rove
He will be a kingmaker for the repubs that is for sure
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:50 AM
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52. no, not for mittens - THOMPSON (fred)
I highly doubt rove will just spend time with his family - most likely scenario is he will be on one of the republic's campaign... but who

consider this: Fred Thompson

- from various articles it's been said Thompson will "officially declare" around Labor Day. Rove's resignation is for end of August, this leaves him free to migrate from bush's brain to thompson's brain

- other articles have hinted Thompson is pretty tight with the bushies, and the bushies are encouraging him to run

and then there's this press release: a coincidence? wouldn't bet on that, talks between thompson and rove have probably been going on for a couple of months...

Fred Thompson Ready To Merge In Iowa
Washington D.C. 8/12/2007 10:52 PM GMT (TransWorldNews)
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?storyid=20...


Past Senator Fred Thompson is planning to make his first Iowa tour as a presidential view next week, a growth that is anticipated to reset the Republican field in the caucus state in the arousal of the GOP straw survey in Ames on Saturday.

"Then the campaign for the caucuses begins," said John Maxwell, chief adviser to U.S. Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Ia. "There are going to be players leaving the stage after Saturday, and so it is going to be a new lineup."

---snip---

Thompson is likely to officially proclaim his application for the GOP nomination in September


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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #52
103. BINGO! That was my FIRST thought too! Nothing with Rover is
ever this simple nor is it ever unplanned! There HAD to be a reason Freddie has been waiting and waiting to declare. Even after many talking heads have been saying they think he might have waited TOO long already. The timing of this resignation and declaration is just too damn close!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:08 AM
Response to Reply #8
85. Yeah, unless and until he's in jail..
he's still out there turning his dirty tricks.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:45 AM
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9. Cockroaches never really leave
The real question is which Republican Presidential candidate will Rove be slithering for?
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:45 AM
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10. Good, but he was irrelevant anyway. I'd rather see "Rove Admits Himself to Mental Institution" :)nt
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 03:49 AM by greyl
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:46 AM
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11. Now for the wooden stake.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:47 AM
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12. Leaving to spend more time with his family? n/t
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:48 AM
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13. He's the NUMERO UNO RAT, & I suspect he's been caught in a trap.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:50 AM
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14. #5 for R and couldn't be MORE happy!
KICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:51 AM
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15. Rove, next week: "PSYCH! Bwahahahahahahahaha!" (nt)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:53 AM
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17. 'Mr. Rove said he expects Democrats to give the '08 presidential nomination to Sen. Hillary Clinton'
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #17
120. Interesting, isn't it? And, if it happens, what role
will Rove have played? Pressuring the media to create an aura of inevitability about her candidacy and praising her to the heavens? All the while working quietly and intently, gathering an arsenal of innuendo and lies and filth with which to attack her before the last bit of confetti has hit the floor at the Dem convention in Denver....

We haven't seen the last of Karl Rove.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:54 AM
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18. HOLY TURDBLOSSOMS, BATMAN!
I ran a search on "the Google" of the "INTERNETS" - Market watch is also carrying the story

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/karl-rove-tells-w...

Will the Cloak of Executive Priviledge still cover him?

rove is also saying the republiks have a good chance of holding onto the white house in '08...
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:55 AM
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19. Did the woman who went to jail over the debate tape sent to Gore in 2000 confess that she took the
rap for Rove?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #19
178. She was sentenced around September 21, 2001
She got one year prison and three years probation, so she has been out a while. Republicans claim she was a Democrat. I doubt it.


Juanita Yvette Lozano, 31, a former low-level aide to Bush's media adviser, Mark McKinnon, was sentenced Friday after pleading guilty in June to charges of perjury and mail fraud.

. . .

In addition to the prison term and fine, U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks also gave Lozano a three-year probation period the maximum penalty under law. The probationary phase will begin after Lozano's one-year prison term.

http://tspweb02.tsp.utexas.edu/webarchive/09-04-01/0109...
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:55 AM
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20. WHAT family...?...
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

:D
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:57 AM
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21. I'm jealous of Bunny for breaking the 'big story'!
Damn! Why even bother getting up at 3 a.m.?

CONGRATULATIONS!
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:02 AM
Response to Reply #21
23. Well, perhaps I broke the story, but I'm not as good with the commentary as you are.
And some of our other fine GDers, such as H2O Man for one. I hope to read some good commentary later this morning.




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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:02 AM
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22. QUESTION: now what? bush's brain resigns
who's going to take over the controls?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:04 AM
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24. Whose brain does that parasite invade now? Whose campaign manager
will he be come?
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #24
147. I think he'll be working on Coup Version 2008
Seriously, besides his legal wrangles, my first thought was Rove aiding and abetting the 2008 GOP coup (president and otherwise) - he'd be restrained in doing all his dirty trick-illegalities in the WH while so many Americans are holding Congress's feet to the fire demanding accountability. Shoot, the poor guy can't even sneak behind America's back and use his clandestine email addys anymore in the WH!

On the other hand, I'm hoping someone squealed and Congress has finally the goods on Rove and all the fraud he perpetuated during the past elections or even something else we are not even aware of - I mean he had his dirty hands in just about everything!

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:05 AM
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26. Going To Work For ???
That is the real question.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:08 AM
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27. Prolly mitt.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:05 AM
Response to Reply #27
83. Yup, that would be my guess...
got to get another round of criminals in office, that's Rove's purpose driven life.
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:38 AM
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46. ah shit , I think your right
but hopefully he really is resigning for "the sake of his family" thats what all the republicons say when the shit hits the fan.

hopefully this treasonist is going down
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:08 AM
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56. Repug Families Demand So Much Attention
Aren't his kids grown?
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:11 AM
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89. Aw shit, good point.
A very likely possibility.

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Mendocino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:46 PM
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186. He's going for his dream job....
..at Krispy Kreme.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:11 AM
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28. May Justice be swift and complete
for Karl Rove.

What dank cavern of iniquity will he infest next?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:14 AM
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29. Time to stock up
on Duct Tape and Visquine..

Something is going to go down, I can feel it.

Probably the Safest place to live in the world would be right next door to Rove's house there in Texas.

And it might be FUN come Halloween :)

Seriously, when he walks away, watch to see when Cheney and Bush have left the country, and then RUN to the local X-Ray Clinic and HIDE BEHIND the LEAD WALLS.. bring a cooler.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:05 AM
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111. My feelings, exactly
It is dire when Rover lets go.

The new product for this year is gonna be a doozy, I fear. DU will need carrier pigeons.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:57 AM
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202. It's just a carnie con game.
Edited on Tue Aug-14-07 01:59 AM by Ladyhawk
The Republicans will distance themselves from Bush. It's all part of the plan. Meanwhile the Democrats are, at best, ineffectual and, at worst, part of the dog and pony show. The public grows disgusted with both parties, but will let the Dems have it for not showing some spine. It's all part of the plan. Bill and Hillary are thick as thieves with Poppy Bush and the corporations. I don't trust the rest of the Dems, either.

Keep your eyes on ol' Karl the carnie's hands as he moves the cups around on the table. Which one conceals the nut? You'll guess incorrectly every. single. time. But it doesn't even matter. It's not about the nut under the cup, anyway. It's about something else, somewhere else. Something that doesn't even register because your focus is on the game, the meaningless, pointless game.

Call your representative. Write your senator. Buy blue. Protest every week. Man the phones. Walk the precinct. Vote for the candidate of your choice. Yes, by all means, focus on the meaningless, pointless game.

You think you have a choice, but Karl the carnie makes the choice for you...a choice that doesn't even matter because as you spend your energy focusing on the game, the other carnies from both sides of Midway steal in to pick your pockets.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:54 PM
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161. Like Rummy, off the map and up to no good.
None of the snakes EVER willingly resign! Something is up.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:14 AM
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30. A Steve Bell TOON to send him on his way
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:16 AM
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31. I thought April Fools was long past?
I'll believe this when I see it. :eyes:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:19 AM
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32. Check out CNN.com
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:23 AM
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33. I'm almost afraid to believe this!
Hey, if he resigns, that means Executive Privilege no longer applies to him, huh?

Not that he would concede to appearing under oath.

Or if he DID appear, doesn't mean he'd tell the truth.

Oy, my head is spinning.

I do hope this is true, but as I said, I'm almost afraid to believe it.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:24 AM
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34. It's true, but not necessarily cause for celebration.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:25 AM
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35. Yeah, I know.
He's probably just going to go and slither under a bigger rock.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:27 AM
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37. He's the sharpest arrow in their quill.
He's not retiring into the sunset, not somebody this icky and evil.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:30 AM
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40. Could be he's retiring like Karen Hughes did.
Formally, but not really.

:sigh:

Though I agree, it's probably not absolutely true, I must admit I got a good heart jolt out of reading the thread title.

A girl can dream, right?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:32 AM
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43. The w years are coming to an end, but I'm not dancing in the street.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:38 AM
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45. I am, but just a little bit. I can't dance too much, because, assuming
we may get someone better in the WH (yeah, a big assumption on my part), it will take YEARS to undo the damage done by this Administration.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:27 AM
Original message
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead - The Wicked Witch - The Wicked Witch......
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 04:30 AM by global1
WOW - I fell asleep with the TV on and just woke up to the news that Rove Resigns. WOW. Am I dreaming? Will I really wake up and find that this isn't so?

It's just sinking in. Something is up. Wonder what it is? Either someone or some committee is getting close to getting to him. Or - it's time that he begin to work for the next Repug candidate for Pres. All kinds of things are going through my mind.

Is it FitzMas?

Even if it is not = Merry FitzMas to all and to Rove a goodnight.

It will be interesting to hear the talking heads analyze this. What will Tweety say?

Would love to hear Randi's take on this - but she's on an Alaskan cruise.

Do you think this was part of a deal that caused the Dems to cave on FISA? We'll vote in favor of you George - but you got to get rid of Rove.

Did Cheney win the power struggle in *CO?

Could we consider this a 'frogmarch' out of the WH?

Did he and Chimpy have a falling out? Is he going to spill the beans?

Will he have to honor the subpoena's now?

What is up?

What will the Chimp's statement be? What will Cheney say? What will be Letterman's Top Ten Reasons Why Rove Resigned?

Is it the end of the world?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:27 AM
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36. Taking a desk next to Rumsfeld?. .You know, "gone" but not gone?
Or have they managed to get GW on full "remote" mode and he can be run from a greater distance?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:04 PM
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183. I thought he looked a bit scared about what comes next.
And Bush did not seem to be as sad that he is leaving as I would have expected had Rove really resigned. We are not being shown/told the truth about what is going on. Let's just see what happens.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:30 AM
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38. Something is up. n/t
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:31 AM
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42. And it stinks.
There's somethin' happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear, but you can bet your ass something is up.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:08 PM
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148. I'm also suspicious -- after long weekend with Dad -- ???
And it might be one of Dad's guys -- Gillespie -- who goes in now???

Still, if Cheney had wanted Rove out -- Bush might still have asked Dad for ideas on replacements?

Did Cheney think that Rove had let too much out re the Plame scandal?

Too much in the records, perhaps?

We need more info --
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #38
77. Yup. Too good to be true
Evil never dies. He needs to go to jail.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:31 AM
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41. Wilt, Turdblossom, wilt! K and R
Now I won't be able to get back to sleep! WHOOOT!


Go down hard, Karl Rove, you evil man!
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:42 AM
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47. Rats leaving the ship?
Rattus Norvegicus?
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:47 AM
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50. Rattus Regergetatus will reappear, he's too valuable.
Unless he's facing serious charges, but I doubt that, none of these guys seems to fear prosecution. I suspect he'll be at least a highly overpayed consultant for the party.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:46 AM
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76. Stick together
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 06:50 AM by mogster
The first and foremost rule of any criminal gang, lest some will take offense and rat on the rest to get an easier sentence.



On edit: I see this is also news up here. A rare moment when Rove is mentioned in Norw. media.
http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/08/13/508675.html
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:46 AM
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49. So Cheney Is 100% In Charge Now?
Somehow I don't feel better.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:51 AM
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53. Shit, I didn't even THINK about that one.
My absolute first thought was, "he's resigning from that job so that he can concentrate on other devious ways to get Republicans into power".

Now that you mention the fact that Cheney is IT, I'm even more scared.

Not feeling comfortable about this at all.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:54 AM
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54. Some think he always has been.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:35 AM
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74. Right. No change.
Preznint Corky has never been truely in charge.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:39 AM
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105. Power abhors a vaccum.
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 08:41 AM by MilesColtrane
Rove may have been one of the last voices in the room telling King George that bombing Iran is a bad idea. (albeit for political reasons)

Whose going to stand against Cheney's madness when he puts his lips to the Decider's monkey ear? Condoleezza?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:12 PM
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149. If you noticed in DOJ corruption, CHENEY IS THERE . . . .
I think it's Cheney all the way --

Which might make 2008 election even a more dangerous time --

Was Cheney completely happy with what Rove told the Feds on the Plame scandal?

It came pretty close to Cheney --

I don't think Rove was happy at WH after Plame scandal -- I think it's right there that
Rove loses.

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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:48 AM
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51. Do You Think * Knew This Was Coming Down Or Will He Be Shocked?.......
I got to think that this was planned and calculated. * had to know. Who will take Rove's place to help * out during his final days in office which I still think number over 500? Is something else up? Did * listen in on Rove's calls and find out that he's been being played as a sucker?

Will this be spun by *Co that Rove was really asked to resign? Is this an attempt to make * look good?

Good grief!!!! Just a 1000 questions ruminating in my head about this.

What will be the reaction of the Conservative talking heads - Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Malkin, etc, etc. What's being said on the Freeper sites?

Is another Repug '08 Pres candidate coming out soon that Rove will be assigned to?

I expected to hear Gonzo resigning - not Rove. Will Gonzo resign too?

This is coming on a Monday - not in the normal Friday news dump. Why? Why did he wait til today? This story will supersede the Utah mining, shuttle tile and bridge collapse and the lady with 150 cats stories.

Did something develop over the weekend that caused Rove to do this unexpectedly? Is an indictment coming down? Is this why impeachment was off the table? Will Cheney be next? Will * himself resign?

The questions. The questions are just jumping out.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:00 AM
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55. I Hear That Rove Expects *'s Poll Numbers To Go Up.........
and he that conditions in Iraq will improve.

Does Rove mean that these will happen due to his resigning?

Is Newt entering the race?

Was Rove hired away by Kucinich?

Whatever is going on - hey - KKKarl Rove is OUT.

Will he be outed in the D.C. Madam story?

Is Larry Flynt behind this resignation?

Oh the questions keep coming.

Did they wake up * in the middle of the night to tell him he has lost his brain?


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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:18 AM
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57. Another war monger with a strapping young kid in college
There's a million reasons to think ill of Rove. But hypocrisy above all else.
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:23 AM
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58. Could there be more to this?
I don't think I am buying that he is leaving because of family at all!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:28 AM
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59. Me either. That's such a standard reason, it's totally worn out.
It just occurred to me that perhaps Bushlitter is really realizing that there is no way to escape the filth of Rove, and he thinks he can escape punishment if Rove is gone.

:shrug:
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:33 AM
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60. Possibly......or is something big about to come down? Gee..
can he be called to testify after he is out? Not that he would ever tell the truth but...
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:38 AM
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75. Sure, he can be called, but
I imagine that he'll still claim privelege, and that our Dem pols will do precious little to press the issue.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:35 AM
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61. Does this mean that Congress will drop the Subpoena?
Will he be scratched off the list now?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:35 AM
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62. A Monday morning news dump? They're really switching things up
now. Good riddance; I see all the king's men are slowly fading away since their damage is now done. They'll let the dim one swing alone; that's dedication.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:39 AM
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63. They've tied themselves in so many knots, they probably don't
even now what time it is, let alone what day it is. :crazy:
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:44 AM
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64. Even if he is working in the background,
he has been relegated to his hidey hole. What a coward. But we knew that.





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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:45 AM
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65. The biggest bullies are always the biggest cowards.
And RoveBot is one big fucking chickenshit!
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:56 AM
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66. IMO, there are only three, maybe four reasons this could be happening...
1. Somebody's got something on him, or him and Georgie. If it's a Replican, we may never hear about it. If it's a Democrat, we'll hear about it.
2. He's getting ready to go to work for one of the Replican candidates.
3. Cheney's gotten his way on something that KKKarl doesn't want to be tainted with. Possible corollary: Cheney's got something on KKKarl, and wants him out of the way so he can get his way on something.

Number 1 is not so bad, and might be really good. Number 2 is not too good, but might not be too bad, either. Number 3 means we're getting ready to nuke Iran or something, and there just isn't an upside that I can see.

This is shocking news, and I'm not even awake yet. mr liberty hit me with it when I got out of bed, and my brain is reeling! I am not sure what to think about this. Is is good or bad? I need more information!

The only thing I know for sure is that KKKarl is NOT leaving just to "spend time with his family."
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:27 AM
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133. That is for certain


But I really responded to say I love your sig pic. A good friend just took some of his bike buddies out to Dragon's Tail.

Have you done Hwy 60 in Georgia (runs roughly between Blue Ridge and Dahlonega)? it used to be a great bike road, haven't ridden it in a long time, though...

And as for Rove, it's the end of an evil era :bounce: or merely the beginning of some other plan he has; perhaps he needs more privacy than the White House allows these days. Or maybe Larry Flynt got something on him finally?









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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:42 AM
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144. Thank you!
No, we haven't done Hwy 60 yet. I'll have to ask mr liberty if he knows it.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:16 PM
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151. I agree . . . this looks like a Cheney win somehow.
Cheney controls the entire show as far as I can see --

Rove would have been answerable to Cheney --

Cheney is still calling for bombing Iran and Bush is with him on it --

It it's Ed Gellespie . . . ? Does he have a longstanding relationship with Cheney . . .
evidently, he's another one who is second generation -- i.e., from Popa Bush's administration???



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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:38 PM
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182. Could be all three
but for my money, I'd go for a mixture of 2 and 3.
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GenDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:59 AM
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67. I do hope this is the tip of the ice burg
The family thing holds no water.

Could it be the subpoenas?
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:00 AM
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68. Moving his Office of Dirty Tricks away from the WH n/t



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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:13 AM
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69. Further on in the article it says....
"He also said Republicans have "a very good chance" to hold onto the White House in next year's elections."

He gave that same prediction when he thought that the Repukes would retain control of Congress in 2006 didn't he????

- Thanks Karl!!! Buh-bye, you no good bastard. And don't leave the country. They'll be coming for you later....

K&R!!!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:27 AM
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71. Good riddance
He should be in prison for treason
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:30 AM
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72. Could this be any way related
to the crashing financial markets ??

Rove as distraction.. Rove as sacrifice...
Rove as subpoena target...
Take the money and run Rove ???
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:31 AM
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73. Awww SHIT! Now I really do gotta leave :-/
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:06 AM
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84. Leaving the Titanic..
to be Captain of the Good Ship Mittsy.
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:09 AM
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86. He always was the smartest guy around.
And jumping ship right now is probably the smartest thing to do, particularly with him under a subpoena that he's refusing to comply with and all.

Unfortunately for us, he'll still probably call in to the boys in the office every now and then.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:10 AM
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87. I'm still in shock. It will be interesting to see what shit hits the fan in the next week.
"For the sake of family" is ALWAYS code for something else.

Anywho, bye bye KKKarl - you will NOT be missed.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:13 AM
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90. It's not a big deal
Bush is in the closing days of his second term. There's really no need for Rove to stay on any longer. His theory of building Hispanic support in the Republican party failed. He knows that in order for Bush to transition to someone else, he has to leave before Labor Day. Everyone is reading way too much into this. It's common at the end of a term to have a big changeover to young blood... EG Cheney came in at a similar time during Ford's term.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:18 AM
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91. Rat does beautiful double-twist swan dive off ship
really, how much more damage could he do in Washington? Won't be long til * has only himself to play with in the corner.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:25 AM
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92. Sake of his family?
Hmmm... Perhaps he's on Flynt's list of 30? :)
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:35 AM
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94. The man lives for power, like a tick for blood.
Something happened and he realized that even his "great brain" can't get him out of it.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:06 AM
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97. Well there is the answer. He gave bushitler the lymes disease, so now he can move along.
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 08:06 AM by lonestarnot
DANCE DANCE DANCE!
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:05 AM
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96. Well the sake of his family is pretty much bs
I think everyone here acknowledges that. Here's my impression as to the reasons.

First there may be something behind the scandals currently under investigation that could be pretty damaging to virtually everyone in the upper levels of the administration. There could well be something that happens in the next month that could be very embarrassing/illegal that we may hear about.

Second, and most importantly, Karl Rove is a political operative. His bane is campaigning and getting people elected. The Republicans need the Presidency. They've already lost Congress and despite the seemingly low approval ratings, the Dems will maintain their hold on both houses of Congress. I think Rove and the entire Republican leadership realizes that and to have any semblence of power, they need to keep a Republican in the Presidency.

Finally, there won't be any major legislative directives coming out of the White House between now and 2008. Bush is (well he's always been) a lame duck President. I think everyone in the White House has now realized that.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:06 AM
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98. Rove steals elections
Bush isnt running for anything.
Rove and Gonzalas have their party-loyal prosecutors in place. Everything is set to steal 2008.
Rove is off to do the work.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:43 AM
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122. That's my guess, too. He's preparing to steal 2008.
He has to do that if he's going to keep himself & the others out of jail.

:kick:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:46 PM
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156. Rove "off to do dirty work" is a sure bet -- !!!!
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:57 PM
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174. OPERATIVES NEVER STOP OPERATING
ELECTION THEFT 2008 COMING UP
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:14 AM
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100. Maybe he doesn't want to be in DC cause he knows something
really really bad is going to happen there.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:18 AM
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101. Guess it's presidential Medal of Freedom time for him, right?
:puke:
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:22 AM
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102. Like I said a long time ago....
The only bars he's going to see are the gay bars in the Cayman Islands.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:40 AM
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106. remember Cunningham was moved..and the secret court hearing in Calif..
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 08:48 AM by flyarm
i think they moved Cunninham to keep him alive..and i think he is singing like a bird..and Then you have the Dusty Foggo stuff going into a secret court...something is happening..that is my gut feeling...

and i just heard Rove is going to crawford with his family for the next couple weeks while * is going to be there...


read this thread by Leveymg:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


either way Aug31st is my son's birthday..it will be a very good birthday this year!!
( it is the same day Princess Di died )..so this is another ending..the end of KKKKarl at the white house!


i just wonder if he will get an office next to Rummy at the pentagon...anyone who believes that monster is really going away is nuts..he will just be paid out of the private stash..and will be like OZ behind a curtain somewhere!


fly
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:58 AM
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109. Riiiight - Kinda late to be spending time with your son now that he's in college isn't it Karl?
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:01 AM
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110. Not gone just moved. n/t
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:10 AM
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112. Will Mrs. Rove forgive Mr. Rove like Mrs. Vitter forgave Mr. Vitter?
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:11 AM
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113. It's a little late now.
He's done all the damage he can do.

Somehow I don't see this as a particular big deal or victory. Although the "for the sake of his family" rationale is as phony as you can get. All rethugs conveniently pull that one out of their asses when they have ulterior motives.

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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:13 AM
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115. Holy mother of God!
The sound of champagne corks popping tonight will be deafening!!
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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:15 AM
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116. There is something more to this I can smell it.....
:tinfoilhat:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:47 PM
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157. I agree! He's leaving to work for one of the candidates...so he can screw the country up more than
he already has.

Call me cynical, but he's not leaving because they have garbage on him and he'll be going to jail. If that was the case, he'd stay at the WH under the cover of "Executive Privilege." My guess is he's leaving to work on someone's campaign....Willard's or Thompson's OR he's going to work FULL TIME on "How to steal elections."
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:15 AM
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117. You know some scandal is about to break.
Because that's how they work.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:28 AM
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118. Soooo.... No more executive privilege? n/t
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:35 AM
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119. Money to be made, elections to be stolen...like karen Hughes in 2004
His comment on the 2008 is as good as announcing his next job.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:42 AM
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121. Now can we indict him? nt
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:45 AM
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123. Oh crap! I live in INGRAM, TX! No, tell me this isn't so! n/t
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 10:01 AM by snappyturtle
Edit: On settling down a bit I doubt he'll move into the two small cottages he owns along the Guadalupe River. They are tiny....for what he's accustomed to. Doesn't he have a home in FL too?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:53 AM
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124. Un-hun, yeah, sure....
A year and a half to go in this Admin....six and a half years in DC already....and suddenly KKKarl is going to TX for the sake of his family.

Bullshit! :eyes:

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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:03 AM
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125. This really doesn't please me. It just makes me wonder what he's up to or what
he's weaseling his way out of, etc.

I want to see him pay, and if he's allowed to scurry his slimy self behind the kitchen cabinets I see him getting away with a lot more.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:09 AM
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127. I'd like to know whose campaign he's aligning himself with.
'Tis the season, after all.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:17 AM
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130. Mitt's already admitted to cheating in Iowa, so you can bet it'll be him or Fred
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 10:32 AM by EVDebs
Romney Jokes About Cheating in Iowa Poll, Dodging Questions
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/59467 /

Either Mitt the Twit or Freddy the Freeloader. BTW, "if" Rove committed crimes while in the WH, he's still liable for them assuming no blanket "absolution" is given (i.e., mass pardoning).

Does anyone know if the * can pardon an entire party while leaving office ? I don't think even the Pope has that kind of power.

"Romney also joked about stuffing the ballot box at today's Straw Poll. "At 7 o'clock they will count the ballots. We will stuff the ballot box, I hope," he said on the recording.

And he joked about cheating in the Corn Poll, the bi-partisan State Fair popularity contest in which attendees are asked to "cast your kernel" by placing a kernel of corn in a jar for their favored candidate to show their support. "I was a little dismayed because I saw Barack Obama, he had a lot of corn in that Mason jar," quipped Romney. "But I was number one - so thanks for cheating!""

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:22 AM
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131. He did NOT admit to cheating, at least not in that link you provided. He was clearly joking. n/t
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:27 AM
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134. Like * on WMDs, "Unfortunately, people took us for our word"-- Mitt Romney, on the record
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 10:33 AM by EVDebs
Recorded by a Ron Paul supporter,

"Gosh, those Ask Mitt Anythings, how many of those did we have? 46? 47? Unfortunately, people took us for our word," Romney joked, according to a sound clip on the digital recording device. "They asked me anything. There were some truly awful questions. But I, but I tried to dodge most of those. And I, I'll keep on doing that as long as I can."

and for the Corn Poll,

"Romney also joked about stuffing the ballot box at today's Straw Poll. "At 7 o'clock they will count the ballots. We will stuff the ballot box, I hope," he said on the recording.

And he joked about cheating in the Corn Poll, the bi-partisan State Fair popularity contest in which attendees are asked to "cast your kernel" by placing a kernel of corn in a jar for their favored candidate to show their support. "I was a little dismayed because I saw Barack Obama, he had a lot of corn in that Mason jar," quipped Romney. "But I was number one - so thanks for cheating!"
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:16 AM
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129. Ya Know What this Means? It means we are DEFINITELY going to attack Iran...
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:43 AM
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145. Whaaat? You mean Rove was the solitary holdout, not wanting to attack?
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:50 PM
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176. No I mean this is yet another sign that the Republican Party is crumbling..
and the only hope bush/cheney/Neocons have of holding on to power is to keep us involved in hot wars maybe by..um, I dunno, staging another 'terrorist' attack on US soil..
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:43 AM
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135. Lest we forget ...
In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend -- but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued."We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

http://www.ronsuskind.com/articles/000106.html
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:52 AM
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136. he just needs to devote all his time
to stealing the next election
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:57 AM
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137. He needs to spend more quality time with Giuliani?
There's an election to spike. He's off to sharpen his skills.


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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:06 AM
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138. aww he's going to miss his tar and feather party
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:33 AM
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140. If I had to predict his next job...
He's either going to sign onto one of the rethug pres campaigns (either Fred Thompson or Mittens is my bet), or he'll become the new CEO of Diebold or ES&S.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:37 AM
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141. Please let Cheney be next
please!

Something tells me Rove probably won't work for McCain. maybe Mitt Romney.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:41 AM
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143. There's something afoot! I wonder what?
He would only resign for some reason. What could it be?
He expects to be forced to testify and mustn't be part of the administration then?
He's become a liability for some reason?
He needs to do something that they can't risk being connected to the administration?

There is some reason here.

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Terri S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:46 AM
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146. exactly!
There is something we're not seeing. The timing makes no sense. Everyone's celebrating his resignation, but there's nothing making him do so. Something's up... not sure what.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:52 PM
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160. He's leaving to work FULL TIME on HOW TO STEAL ELECTIONS.
That's my guess. :(
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:15 PM
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150. If.
Are we sure he is really going to be gone? As an advisor he could have dumped a massive strategy on the whitehouse to carry it through the next year or so. If anything this feels a little ominous to me. I am certain he wouldn't leave without giving them a playbook for the next year and/or be available via computer or phone. So his actual office not being in the white house would be meaningless.

Now if he REALLY is leaving that IS odd.
I can think of three scenarios that follow this.

1. Congress has them! The regular investigations have finally yielded the density of criminality needed to convince even the most corporatists of the DLC dems to examine impeachment. Even Arlen Spector is in a full foaming fury. The Bushies are trying to limit Rove and protect him and themselves at the same time. (and this one is my favorite)

2. Rove is setting up to help out one of the current candidates with their bid for presidency, and/or deep involvement with several congressional races. (This is the most likely one)

3. The administration REALLY doesn't need him anymore. For one reason or another Rove is not relevant. Perhaps the Neo-Cons think that Tony Snow is adequate as a propegandist but that they have strategy worked out. This is a scary possibility. It means they expect something to happen and it will be dramatic enought that it writes itself. Bush asserts absolute unitary emergency powers-stuff like that. (rather unlikely)
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:47 PM
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158. gonzo isn't relevant but he isn't going anywhere.
I don't think snowjob will make it to November,'08. He has the shadow of limited time in his eyes.

I think this is ominous also but can't put my finger on it. saurove has always been meticulous in covering his tracks and ass...so try as they might, I don't think there is anything to point the bony finger @ saurove - he is too careful - unless a person has stepped forward to rat them out...in which case the whole fucking tent is about to collapse.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:12 PM
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164. Heh
Hey a guy can dream... right?

I said it was my favorite theory, not that is was most likely. Still this much criminality cannot be completely covered without big gaping holes, in which case we have to ask who made those holes and what they are covering up.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 12:49 PM
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159. NOTICE: -- BUSH SAYS HE'LL BE LEAVING SOON . . . !!!!!!!! !!!!!
That may clear up some of the progressive fears --

Or not -- ????

I think the GOP is looking to see who they can push to stay on this road --

and keep secrets covered up . . .

Is Romney stupid enough to be another Bush -- take Jeb as a VP?

I think Jeb is gonna be in there somewhere -- eh???



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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:05 PM
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162. he's moving to a country without an extradition treaty with the US
and taking many millions with him to live a life of obscene luxury.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:06 PM
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163. Sorry to be a spoilsport
but there is no way he's doing this for real. Yes, on paper but there is no way Bush's Brain will be far away. Unless someone has decided that it's time to end Bush's career for the good of the Neocons, in which case, Rove really is leaving and will destroy Bush that way. I'd love to know whether Cheney made this decision (like that'll ever happen!- us knowing a damn thing about what Cheney thinks or does).
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 01:17 PM
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165. Just heard on CNN Radio that he's going to write a book
on the Bush presidency.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 02:10 PM
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166. Even blossoms have their allotted span.
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 02:10 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:07 PM
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169. Since KKKarl is "Turdblossom" bu$h is the
TURD!


GET RID OF THE BUMS!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:22 PM
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173. Neat reasoning!
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:12 PM
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170. Fuck him and the horse he rode in on!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:16 PM
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171. Anyone taking bets on when the wheels *really* start to come off this...
criminal regime?
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 03:20 PM
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172. all i have to say is RUCK FOVE
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 04:32 PM
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175. so....

what is Bush going to do without his brain?? (no, seriously.)


and oh man, that snippet from WSJ about Clinton being unelectable was oh so revealing...
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:07 PM
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179. Rush Limbaugh predicted
that Rove would become a radio talk show host.

Could he be any worse than Limpballs?
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:13 PM
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180. Goodbye and good riddance.
Woo-hoo!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 05:36 PM
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181. Shit, now we're REALLY in trouble
Now Rove's gone, that means Bush's brain-trust is down to Cheney. Puppetmaster Cheney with exclusive control of Bush's strings? Bumpy times ahead.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:19 PM
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184. FUCK YEAH!!!!
But your still going to be put on trial Rove, you worthless bag of shit!
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 06:34 PM
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185. Jail would be better...
but this'll do. :D Goin' to get some ice cream to celebrate.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:50 PM
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187. Big deal
The last time, also conveniently before an election year, Rove was cut loose from his title. then he spent more time traveling around, lecturing, consolidating the local fraud archipelago. His job is political fixes. Nothing left to do with Bush tanked. The operation now is 2008 and Georgie ain't running.

Once more, apparently "chased" out of the White House, he will shake free from the current scandals(wasn't it the money scandals last time?) and start his grand tour, maybe with his family and suntan lotion. Come election night, with the Bushmanchurian candidate pulling up to the Democratic dupe, Rove or his chosen minions will once more be somewhere in "central control" tabulation land.

In any event his retirement with ease with all the fraud still technically go for November and all the small races needing a special strategy and that oh so special help, the personal touch is vital. Cheney did his tour of special locations during the season and it wasn't just to boost the campaigns with his popular charm.

So let's see the cause for joy. No Congressional testimony, no jail time. No pointless entrapment with the failed dictator. Loose on the hustings. Most plans- though totally exposed for what they are- simply still in place.

And just in time for the Dem primaries- which if Hillary is actually a shoe-in, means he has no pre-season work to do. If he predicts Hillary, I predict Romney/Thompson. If the GOP steals another one easily that means Rove is back, maybe not ensconced in the actual WH but Bush central division in the shadow government and more and more and more with the Dems despised and despaired over for letting him get away with everything.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:52 PM
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188. I just dashed off this LTTE to the Chicago Tribune:
Edited on Mon Aug-13-07 07:53 PM by Martin Eden
Carl Rove, more than anyone else, can take credit for getting George W. Bush twice elected President of the United States of America. It was a huge political success for Rove and Bush, and a terrible tragedy for the United States of America.

On Edit:
Yeah, I know, he wasn't legitimately elected.
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c2farr Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 07:57 PM
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189. And She Looked Down Upon the Earth and Said...
It is Good.

So She leaned back for a moment to relax in Her satisfaction. That's when God farted. Ehew, sayeth She, and as the gasses coalesced, there formed some putrid and obscene mass murderers indeed: Alexander the Great, Hitler, Stalin, Truman (the fake Democrat), et al...

as well as a few small-time mass-murdering self-agrandizing power-mongering sons-of-bastards: Bush, Rove, Cheney, et al. God then took some Gas-X, turned on the fan, and the Democrats returned to power...
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bedpanartist Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:04 PM
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190. They know the U.S. is economy is tanking and are getting out
before the pitchforks come home to roost.

Look for him in Dubai.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:12 PM
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191. He's not gone. he's done in the WH.
Remember the neocons for the most part telegraph their moves in their statements.
"He also said Republicans have "a very good chance" to hold onto the White House in next year's elections"
This election is already stolen. The only left for the neocons to do is decide which knucklehead they'll install. Shit! What am I saying?? Shrub isn't going anywhere. He can't wait to start punishing those that dissent
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:59 PM
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195. Pelosi said 'Nothing's changed.'.
I heard Pelosi's take on this on the radio, that Rove will still be Bush's top political advisor, nothing's changed.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 08:55 PM
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194. going to the mattresses
The junk yard dogs are getting too close for comfort...meaning of course the intrepid internet investigative dogs not the complicit corporate media.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 09:43 PM
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196. "for "the sake of his family"
Is this so he can spend more time with;





His family...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 10:30 PM
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197. Ladies and gentlemen, please join in singing

Our National Anthem

As sung by its author

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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-13-07 11:15 PM
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198. Good riddance! Guess Bush will miss his close pal...remember this pic?
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:17 AM
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200. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'd never seen that!
Anyway, back to the topic ... at first when I heard Rove was resigning I was elated. Now that I've read all the predictions of him simply doing it to back an '08 repug, well I got a little sick.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 01:30 AM
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201. WTF are you all excited about? He's done everything he set out to do
and now he's moving on to the next victim, or maybe he's just going to relax in luxury that most of us can't even imagine for the rest of his life.

Is he going to jail? Is he going to be tried for his crimes? Has he even been exposed as an architect of the destruction of our nation?

Somebody please explain to me what is so great about this ratfuck bastard jumping ship as it goes down...


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