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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:32 AM Original message |
Police: Christian Boot camp girl dragged behind a van after she fell behind morning run |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. That's Demonstrating Love, All Right |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That must be that "Xtian Love" I hear so much about. I'm "agape", I tells ya! n/t |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. they are no more Christian than bush is a man. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. Maybe they're Scotsmen?...nt |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
87. Well, that's technically true, I suppose. |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
2. If they demonstrate too much more love, some kids will wind up maimed-or worse k/r n/t |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. If this is true, the people who are responsible for this should be crucified |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
5. Oh, yes - That's a heartwarming story - tough love by the Christian whack-jobs - |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
65. Did they really receive federal funding?... |
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Shallah Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 02:39 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. It appears so - look here |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. Churchlady. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. Picture doubting Thomas questioning whether Jesus really is |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Irony, defn... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Hi, zehnkatzen. I stole the 'moron/oxymoron' line from ST. ELSEWHERE, |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Well, still, well taken... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Agree. Those two terms aren't pals and shouldn't be allowed |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Brilliant |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
8. Who would Jesus drag behind a truck? |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. Faith Based |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Dat's what I would call it right there. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. Should the parents also be charged? |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. The parents may not have known how bad the directors were |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
12. How ugly. These "boot camps" should be illegal. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. agree |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Faulting the parents is unfair IMHO. And boot camps CAN work. |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Some kids succeed in some boot camps, but most don't work |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
13. Ya know, there *is* a reason they used to feed christians to the lions |
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Morereason (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. So anyone who appears nuts should be fed to the lions.. or maybe gas chambers eh? |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Religion is a choice, not a condition |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. There's a *BIG* difference between *fact* and *prejudice*.... |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
72. None of that has anything to do with your post, or the other DUers reply to it |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
14. Keeping right in line with how chrisitians act. |
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lynnertic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sadists. Hey Parents: 'boot camps' are abusive. |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. Woah, stop that. That's way too much thinking. |
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SalmonChantedEvening (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. I have a 15 year old niece. |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. The parents have to share some of the blame. |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
20. This is Texas, right? And it's August? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Bingo |
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zehnkatzen (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. Texas. Hump. Any chance of talking Mexico into taking it back?... |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. "There are some things even Estados Unidos Mexicanos would do" |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Some reason I'm reminded of a line in "Walk the Line" about Johnny Cash |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
22. more of thos conservative christian family values on parade! |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
23. BushChristians in reality are worhipping Satan |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. A Christian boot camp--talk the about the best of both worlds... |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
26. Spare the gravel, spoil the child. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
28. How about let's be fair and reasoned here, rather than making an excuse to bash religion? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. ROFLMAO!!! When a religious institution does bad, JUST IGNORE the fact that they're religious.... |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
81. Well I don't know who you are refering to.... |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Two separate issues |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
82. I agree with point one and point two. |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Looks like you missed this part: |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. HA! The REAL excuse maker is BUSTED! |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #38 |
80. It looks like you totally missed my point. |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Nah, I got your point |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Well, Exiled, I actually saw an interview with the couple who run this camp |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. Methinks thou dost protest too little. Sorry, we didn't write this story. nt |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #61 |
78. Well argued. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
62. Religious zeal plus so called Tough Love are a very bad combination |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #62 |
77. Tough love is bad on its own. It may be exacerbated by religion. I'm only asking for objectivity |
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Rocknrule (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
35. Feel that Krischun lurve! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
39. "Help at any cost" |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
40. This isn't a Christian thing, gang |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Name one. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Check your attitude at the door |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Sorry, I meant no disrepect |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I'm sure Canada is far too civilized to have these things |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Canada is just as 'civilised' as the U.S. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #58 |
75. I did indeed Google this -- how disappointed and appalling |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 01:50 AM Response to Reply #52 |
71. That's the whole problem |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. I appreciate your insight on this |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Thanks |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
47. Wow another story about the religiously insane.... |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
53. If you look closely at these "ministers"..... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. And most of them are 'ministers" in their own minds |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
89. Thankyou for providing the link... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
57. guess next time she will learn to run faster, in Jesus' name |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
60. WWJD? - Who Would Jesus Drag? |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
64. Clark Griswold, anyone? |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
66. These people make me sick |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-12-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
68. Well, you know what the Bible says... |
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bumblebee1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
69. If dragging a 15yr old behind a van is a show of love, |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
70. Authoritarianism |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 04:51 AM Response to Original message |
74. Perhaps they misunderstood the part of the Bible that says |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
76. Give me that old time religion |
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deucemagnet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
79. Love Demonstrated Ministries/Ministry of Love |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
84. I'm surprised it wasn't the one I read about in "Jesus Land" |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
85. I hate fanatics, religious or otherwise. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
86. Did you hear those two on CNN oday? They made excuses, but |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-13-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
88. Throw.Away.The.Key..... |
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