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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:06 PM
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What if Dennis Kucinich/John Edwards got the kind of airtime that Hillary and Obama got?
How would that affect the race? Would they offer stiff challenge to Hillary and Obama? Or would Kucinich/Edward's concentration on working class issues hurt them with American voters?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:09 PM
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1. In my informal survey
I've found that people from all walks of life like what Kucinich is saying, especially on the war and on health care. Mine is a small sample, but includes professionals, working folk, liberals and conservatives.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:10 PM
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2. it would be a cold day in hell?
the corporate owned media always pick the candidates.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:38 PM
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14. Look whos sitting next to Chris Matthews after the debate.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:10 PM
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3. Sure
I like them both and don't like seeing them marginalized. But let's face it, Clinton and/or Obama would be great for ratings and revenue. And that's what the networks care about first, last and always.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:11 PM
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4. I think Edwards should start to form a bond with some other candidate
Whether it be Obama or Kucinich or someone ... The only chance ANY of these guys may have to avoid Queen Hillary is to join forces (even if it's just with a wink and a nod).
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:14 PM
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6. Obama and Edwards should join forces.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:32 PM
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10. I almost think they're telegraphing to each other ...
by complimenting each other's responses and almost showing how their approaches are similar. I think Edwards/Obama or the reverse would be a GREAT ticket. The only problem is who would go first and who second ... One of them would have to pull out and agree that they'd serve as the other's VP or else they'll split the votes ... but I wish there were some way they could make it happen.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 09:22 PM
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18. Edwards and Kucinich -- THE dream team!
Both men are on point for what middle class american wants. THAT would be awesome!
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:13 PM
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5. people are hungry for working class issues to be addressed
The failure of the mainstream candidates to give a damn is at the root of the national political apathy that keeps blue collar people at home on election day.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:15 PM
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7. Kucinich needs more than the airtime they get, he deserves the respect they get...
When the media labels you the way they label that guy, it's nearly impossible to shake such ridiculous preconceptions.

Rp
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:26 PM
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9. Perhaps the AFL-CIO rank and file just didn't ask enough questions of him
But Olbermann should have asked more to make up for that. I don't think he asked him one in his final 15 minutes of questions.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:36 PM
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11. Kucinich has done more for organized labor
than any other candidate running. It would be a disappointment to see them give him short shrift.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 10:29 PM
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22. barack has a labor background
he was well received, and sure did have the home field advantage. but he does have creds.
i think that people enjoyed hearing dk, but i am sorry, he is goofy looking. having clothes that don't fit doesn't help.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:26 PM
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8. That would change everything. :-)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:36 PM
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12. Yeah what if he fucking did.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:36 PM
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13. Edwards had to TAKE his air time.
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:39 PM
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15. agreed
I don't like how on Hardball the other candidates don't get their campaign staff interviewed.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:41 PM
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16. Looks like MSNBC is HRCNBC? And I thought Fox was bad!
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:50 PM
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17. Well people pushing their so called feud gives them
a lot more time. Why don't Dennis and John E. start one then the focus would be on them.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 09:25 PM
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20. now I'd love to see E & K comparing notes
That would be great TV.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 09:24 PM
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19. What if David Swanson or Will Pitt had a half an hour with Tweety
after the debate?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 09:28 PM
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21. Kucinich's problem is not his message- it's his appearance, unfortunately. nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 10:33 PM
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23. is that how you vote?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 10:35 PM
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24. the news networks
don't give away airtime for fun. Obama and Clinton get a lot because they're the frontrunners.

If Edwards got the numbers Obama or clinton did, he'd get airtime. Same for Kucinich, although I think more airtime wouldn't necessarily help Kucinich.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 11:04 PM
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26. Unless you're really not paying attention, you know that they're considered
the "front runners" ONLY because they're better at raising corporate cash, which gives them "credibility" in the eyes of the MSM.

Note that there's very little about their actual policies in the news coverage. It's all polls and stories about who has raised more money.

I've talked to people who seriously thought that Hillary and Obama were the only ones running this year, and it would be easy to get that impression from the MSM coverage.

How can anyone be a real "front runner" before a single vote has been cast?

It's just that Hillary and Obama are the least threatening to the rich and powerful; hence they get the money from the fat cats and the publicity from the media owned by the six corporations that own almost all the media in this country.

The establishment types don't want anyone who will rock the boat.

Unfortunately, this country has veered so far to the right that only rocking the boat will get it back into an upright position.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 11:07 PM
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27. they're the front runners
because they're polling the best.

Kucinich gets more attention than he deserves, given his poll numbers.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:23 AM
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28. How can anyone else poll well if only Hillary and Obama get the big
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 12:24 AM by Lydia Leftcoast
news stories?

Where are the Newsweek cover stories about the other candidates?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:35 AM
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30. the media
don't owe all candidates equal time. The notion is silly.

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were relative unknowns who won the presidency - it can be done.

If a candidate can't get any press coverage, then he's a lousy candidate.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 04:49 AM
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32. Isn't that rather an absolutist statement? That they're lousy candidates?
Are you saying that there is a zero percent chance that it might be because of their policy decisions that angers the owners of NBC (like defense giant General Electric)?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:10 AM
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33. So you trust the media to choose your candidates for you?
:wow:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 10:37 PM
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25. That would be another country, not this one
if there is something my cynical me has learned is... we don't choose anybody... it is all an ilusion
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:26 AM
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29. They'd be superstars!
politically that is! lol
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:41 AM
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31. It would help them immensely.
Kuch and Edwards are talking pocketbook issues. That is what wins elections.

The economy is down the tubes, unemployment is far higher than the guvmint will admit to, and the answer is NOT "go back to school and get more training".

The economy is going to hell because of Reaganomics continued.

Check out SMU economics prof Dr. Ravi Batra. He says that extreme inequality in wealth distribution (such as we have now, destroying the middle and poor classes) leads eventually to revolutions.

He is dissed by other economists but his predictions are quite accurate. I read "The Great Depression of 1990". It hasn't hit yet because Clinton dug us out of a deficit and into a surplus, but we're back on the downhill slide.
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